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frontpagechunmanc123 posted Aug 07, 2023 04:53 AM
frontpagechunmanc123 posted Aug 07, 2023 04:53 AM

U.S. Treasury: Short Term Treasury Bills (4-Week-52-Week Maturity) Up to

5.50% Interest

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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

Thanks community member chunmanc123 for sharing this deal

Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%

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Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Interest paid: When the bill matures
    • Minimum purchase : $100
    • In increments of: $100
    • Maximum purchase: $10 million (non-competitive bid)
    • Auction frequency:
      • Every four weeks for 52-week bills
      • Weekly for 4, 8, 13, 17, 26-week bills
      • No regular schedule for Cash Management Bills
      • See the Auction calendar for specific date
      • More Info
    • Taxes: Federal tax due on interest earned. No state or local taxes
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer. -slickdewmaster

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Written by chunmanc123
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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

Thanks community member chunmanc123 for sharing this deal

Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Interest paid: When the bill matures
    • Minimum purchase : $100
    • In increments of: $100
    • Maximum purchase: $10 million (non-competitive bid)
    • Auction frequency:
      • Every four weeks for 52-week bills
      • Weekly for 4, 8, 13, 17, 26-week bills
      • No regular schedule for Cash Management Bills
      • See the Auction calendar for specific date
      • More Info
    • Taxes: Federal tax due on interest earned. No state or local taxes
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer. -slickdewmaster

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OliveFlag247
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To clarify...

Treasury BILLS are currently paying over 5% for various maturity lengths under 1 year. These can be bought through most brokerages even without a TreasuryDirect account.

Treasury BONDS are paying 4% or less and have 20 or 30 year terms.
if200
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Have learned so much on this site so am trying to return the favor with what I've learned that I don't see anyone else talking about.

The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.

On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.

FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.

The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.

The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.

Good luck to everyone!
oonchie
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I'd recommend searching for diamondnestegg on youtube. She has a bunch of very useful videos on how to purchase and where explaining step by step on how to do it.

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Aug 14, 2023 08:58 PM
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Waiting4HopeAug 14, 2023 08:58 PM
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I have Ibond for about 14months. Should I sell that and reinvest on Tbills? I know I will have 3months interest penalty if I sell that.
Aug 14, 2023 09:05 PM
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shahhereAug 14, 2023 09:05 PM
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Quote from nyc10036 :
What?
Care to elaborate ?

Not sure if i worded it right but meant to say that Fidelity in my opinion is the best brokerage option based on ease of use and other fee items I am seeing:
1) The Agency Bond GSE Bonds for example are not sold as new issue on Vanguard as they charge $1 per $1000 in bonds.


2)Transfer of funds and the availability of those funds before settlement is important and as such Fidelity lets me transfer and use $25,000 of that at the time of making the transfer while the settlement might be 1-2 days out. Vanguard has a wait (I forget if its 5 days and am not sure if this is because of margin or not).


3)Some of the IRA funds held in other Funds outside of Vanguard incurred not only Load Fees based on the IRA Fund prospectus but Vanguard also charge $20 per fund for transaction fees. Something that TD from where it was transferred did not and I could have sold it there and then moved it in cash per my my needs.


4)I provided a link for other brokerages such as Schwab that holds your funds when doing TBill autoroll vs Fidelity as they settle and purchase on the same day without holding your money etc.


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Last edited by shahhere August 14, 2023 at 03:09 PM.
Aug 14, 2023 09:09 PM
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shahhereAug 14, 2023 09:09 PM
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Quote from nyc10036 :
https://investor.vanguard.com/inv...conversion

Because your parents financials are not the same as anybody else's, you'll have to do your own research.

Thanks NYC, i get that "Journey" is going to be diff based on my/each circumstance. I was just looking for people who might have been down this road and know a thing or two to bounce off ideas to continue what I need Smilie.


The link you provided is very helpful and I have most of that down but have to think about how to calculate the taxes when converting and when the pay them etc and few other specific details that I'd need to make sure is done right.



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Aug 14, 2023 09:11 PM
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LyrradAug 14, 2023 09:11 PM
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Quote from DrTadWinslow :
Yep, I'm trying to work my way through all the comments to educate myself, but it seems like the treasury offers them in certain windows, and if you miss the window, you need to do it in the secondary market. Is that correct?
Pretty much. You can place orders for the auction at brokerages between announcement and auction. Fees can vary, but are fee free at major brokerages like Vanguard, Fidelity, and Schwab. The advantage of the auction is that everyone gets the same price, though you don't know what that price is before the auction.

There's currently at least 5 weekly bill auctions.

Quote from smartdeals :
it is auction, my question is why my price is 97.33319 not 97.325611 as published
It's hard to tell. Some possibilities:
  • We're looking at different securities, and it wasn't 912797GN1, this week's 26-week bill that was purchased.
  • The price was an indicative price from before the auction and it was not yet updated with the final price and it will be corrected before settlement on Thursday.
  • Something else went wrong, and you need to talk to Schwab to figure it out.
  • You somehow bought directly from Schwab's inventory a a higher price on the when-issued market. I don't know if this is possible.

If you figure it out, let us know.
Aug 14, 2023 09:44 PM
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me2dealsAug 14, 2023 09:44 PM
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I'm tempted to buy $5 million dollar t-bill.
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noeffortAug 14, 2023 10:00 PM
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Quote from me2deals :
I'm tempted to buy $5 million dollar t-bill.
LOL, everyone loves a slickdeal, even people with millions!
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labboyproAug 14, 2023 10:14 PM
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Quote from me2deals :
I'm tempted to buy $5 million dollar t-bill.
They don't take checks.

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Aug 14, 2023 10:25 PM
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jwcallaAug 14, 2023 10:25 PM
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Quote from Waiting4Hope :
I have Ibond for about 14months. Should I sell that and reinvest on Tbills? I know I will have 3months interest penalty if I sell that.
Depends what your current rate is.

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/212507-2/
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Aug 14, 2023 10:48 PM
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shahhereAug 14, 2023 10:48 PM
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Quote from Waiting4Hope :
I have Ibond for about 14months. Should I sell that and reinvest on Tbills? I know I will have 3months interest penalty if I sell that.
Quote from jwcalla :
Depends what your current rate is.

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/212507-2/
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I believe that most people need to hold at least 15 months so you are not losing out on the 1 year interest part and only losing out on the last 3 months of low paying interest. Keep in mind that it doesn't matter if you sell on the 1st day or last so its better to sell on the front of the month and buy at the end for iBonds.



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Aug 15, 2023 02:17 AM
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if200Aug 15, 2023 02:17 AM
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Quote from smartdeals :
today my 6mo t-bill order got 97.33319
its worse than published 97.325611
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...0814_2.pdf [treasurydirect.gov]
can any expert there explain why is that? did Schwab eat the difference?
Why not just call Schwab and ask? I had to call TD Ameritrade and Vanguard to find out how to get to the auction page. It is not an intuitive system. They pick up quickly and are usually very helpful.
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lane_meyerAug 15, 2023 03:48 PM
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Quote from dealbuster9999 :
just got a cd with a 5.3 percent interest...the only advantage I see is the state tax.
An most banks want a longer commitment (8 months, 1 year ) on the CD than 4 weeks... You can sell on the secondary market any time and roll out after 4 weeks if you like
Aug 16, 2023 12:07 AM
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mahirobAug 16, 2023 12:07 AM
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Just buy from your local brokerage. Treasury directs archaic setup is terrible to work through. The only thing you should ever buy through treasury direct is your iBonds but those aren't worth it right now.
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mahirobAug 16, 2023 12:08 AM
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Quote from if200 :
Why not just call Schwab and ask? I had to call TD Ameritrade and Vanguard to find out how to get to the auction page. It is not an intuitive system. They pick up quickly and are usually very helpful.
How is it not intuitive on Vanguard? It very clearly spells out the type, duration, and return. You select the time/bill/return you want and then enter in the amount you want to buy; select submit and done. I'm not sure how to make it much easier than that.
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labboyproAug 16, 2023 12:12 AM
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Quote from mahirob :
Just buy from your local brokerage. Treasury directs archaic setup is terrible to work through. The only thing you should ever buy through treasury direct is your iBonds but those aren't worth it right now.
Quote from mahirob :
How is it not intuitive on Vanguard? It very clearly spells out the type, duration, and return. You select the time/bill/return you want and then enter in the amount you want to buy; select submit and done. I'm not sure how to make it much easier than that.
Uh... How is it not intuitive on TD? It very clearly spells out the type and duration (since it is an auction, 'return' isn't know prior to that auction. You select the time/bill you want and then enter in the amount you want to buy; select submit and done. I'm not sure how to make it much easier than that.[/QUOTE]
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nugget4uAug 16, 2023 03:33 AM
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I've read about half of these comments and determined that this is too much hassle for me, and I already have a Tres Direct account with series I Savings bonds. (Yes, I know there are stipulations, etc) I find it much easier with UFB's High Yield Savings account at 5.25%
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