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Moen Flo Smart Water Monitor & Automatic Shutoff (3/4" Diameter)

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Amazon has Moen Flo Smart Water Monitor & Automatic Shutoff (3/4" Diameter, 900-001) on sale for $298.75. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Lordslamma for sharing this deal.

About this Item:
  • Turn your water on/off from the app manually, or Flo by Moen Smart Water Shutoff will automatically turn off the water for you to protect the home from catastrophic water damage
  • MicroLeak Technology proactively monitors the security of the home's entire water system (including behind walls and in foundations) to identify leaks as small as a drop per minute (e.g. pinhole leaks, etc.)
  • See how much water you're consuming daily and set conservation goals to encourage saving water and money for your home
  • Model 900-001 fits 3/4-Inch to 1-1/4 Inch pipe diameter (consult a professional)
  • Compatible with: Alexa skills and Google Assistant; no smart hub or system required; requires Wi-Fi connection; requires standard AC/DC power connection
  • Everything needed for installation is included in box; Professional installation is recommended

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  • About this Deal:
    • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $51.23 lower than the next best available prices starting from $349.98. -SaltyOne
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Amazon has Moen Flo Smart Water Monitor & Automatic Shutoff (3/4" Diameter, 900-001) on sale for $298.75. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Lordslamma for sharing this deal.

About this Item:
  • Turn your water on/off from the app manually, or Flo by Moen Smart Water Shutoff will automatically turn off the water for you to protect the home from catastrophic water damage
  • MicroLeak Technology proactively monitors the security of the home's entire water system (including behind walls and in foundations) to identify leaks as small as a drop per minute (e.g. pinhole leaks, etc.)
  • See how much water you're consuming daily and set conservation goals to encourage saving water and money for your home
  • Model 900-001 fits 3/4-Inch to 1-1/4 Inch pipe diameter (consult a professional)
  • Compatible with: Alexa skills and Google Assistant; no smart hub or system required; requires Wi-Fi connection; requires standard AC/DC power connection
  • Everything needed for installation is included in box; Professional installation is recommended

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $51.23 lower than the next best available prices starting from $349.98. -SaltyOne
  • About this Store:

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Written by Lordslamma

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sidewinder33625
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its still expensive to be locked into their ecosystem. it will become useless when they discontinue the product or service. they could also start putting features behind a paywall again like they used to.

https://solutions.moen.com/Smart_...of_Service

(i) Modification. Flo reserves the right, at any time, to modify, suspend, or discontinue the Services or any part thereof with or without notice. You agree that Flo will not be liable to you or to any third party for any modification, suspension, or discontinuance of the Services or any part thereof.
yanks0114
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Yes (obviously check with your insurance company about the requirements) but for mine, it's 7% off the premium. Makes it a very quick payback period
adam3914
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You could just unplug it and turn it on manually.

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Sep 07, 2023 12:41 PM
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quietjetSep 07, 2023 12:41 PM
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Quote from wildta :
Might be a dumb question, but how do I confirm if I have 3/4" pipe? Is it measured on the outside diameter so I ruler should show exactly 3/4" diameter?
yes outer diameter
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Sep 07, 2023 12:48 PM
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CndnMPSep 07, 2023 12:48 PM
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Quote from JWL418 :
Similar to another poster, I have a Dome valve shut-off and leak sensors "everywhere". The moment a leak is detected the valve is shut off and I know where it is.

How quickly does the Moen unit it detect leaks? Seems like it has different/broader capability to detect leaks without sensors but identification would be slower and less specific. Is that right?
It has multiple ways to detect leaks. It runs a pressure check every night and can notify you of tiny leaks. For larger leaks it works best if you have a set schedule. For example, if I run the washing machine at a time where I'm normally at work (ie no water usage) it will notify me within about 5 min and then you have another 5min or so to cancel the alert. That's still a long time but better than hours. Complete pipe bursts should be caught rather quickly. You can pick the sensitivity for both methods. You can also add physical sensors that work with Flo to detect water leaks from like a washing machine or other appliances that may not register as a leak since it wouldn't be leaking from the water system itself. If you tie everything into home assistant, you can even use your old dome sensors.
Last edited by CndnMP September 7, 2023 at 05:50 AM.
Sep 07, 2023 01:22 PM
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oldcat87Sep 07, 2023 01:22 PM
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How can you plug it in to get electricity where main shutoff is? Typically there is no outlet where main shutoff is
Sep 07, 2023 01:29 PM
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VSevenSep 07, 2023 01:29 PM
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Quote from n00bcak3 :
I've got Z-wave devices all over including light switches, plugs, temp/humidity/motion sensors, door/window sensors, water sensors, etc. I use Vera and SmartThings hubs. All that to say I'm a fan of Z-wave and home automation in general.

That being said, this smart meter device is better than your typical DIY home automation device. The product is nicer, more robust, more reliable, and the app and usability is just very clean. I don't have to question the readings. I don't have to troubleshoot the whole system to eliminate other things that would be wrong with the system to validate if a "trip" of the device is a true issue. The thing just works and works every time. It's a vetted and finished product if you know what I mean.

If I lose wifi, I get an alert. If I see unusual water usage, I see to what extent and for how long in a nice interface. There are daily test routines. The logging/history works. It's just a good overall product.

Plus if you have a water leak in into your toilet bowl or anywhere else in your system where you don't have a water sensor, then you're covered. You don't have to worry about replacing batteries in your water sensor or if there's communications going on between your various sensors and your hub. The thing just works.

I agree the extras are nice but at what cost? Most people will have to have this professionally installed at $200 - $400. Plus it's a closed system that may or may not still be working 5 years from now. Or worse a subscription. If it was more open/standard ZWave or ZigBee I'd be all over it. But for the money, ease of install, and open standards I'll go with the $100 Dome shutoff. Plus if this thing dies you have to go through it all again to replace while a Dome snaps off and back on.

I understand it needing to be within the "flow" of the water to do it's smart stuff. I just wish it was cheaper and more open.
Sep 07, 2023 01:37 PM
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wolfpackwxSep 07, 2023 01:37 PM
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Late to this, but this is a great deal. I have had this installed in the house for over 2 years at this point and honestly my only gripe with it is that it is too good at leak detection. When we turn on the water toys in the backyard for the kids, I have to monitor my phone for the first 15 minutes because it is "abnormal use" and I will get the call that they are shutting the water off. You can easily ignore and delay this alert - but still annoying.

It is funny when my wife takes a shower longer than 15 minutes and it alerts me that it is shutting off - she should shower quicker Smilie.

Finally, when I first got this installed, I also happened to get a new Hot water heater installed. Right after, I was noticing weird readings on the Moen and subsequent spike in my water bill. Turns out that my water heater needed a check valve on the cold water system because the new water heater was causing minor backflow (or something - I am not an expert. It had a thermal expansion tank installed, but still there was something odd going on). Was able to confirm this by watching the meter at the street spin in both directions - yikes. Using the Moen, I was able to verify that the sinning meter issue was resolved and all pipes were flowing properly.

Sure, I could have figured this out without the Moen, but since my bills are Quarterly, the Flo helped me identify this within a week - keeping me from having to argue hundreds or thousands of $$ in "fake" water usage.

To the insurance question - we have State Farm and they don't offer a discount, but I know others definitely do - so check!
Sep 07, 2023 02:09 PM
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HughBalzoniaSep 07, 2023 02:09 PM
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If you're on a well you can do this much less expensive. Just hook up your pump to a smart plug.
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Sep 07, 2023 02:15 PM
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Lordslamma
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Sep 07, 2023 02:15 PM
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Quote from slaveforthewave :
Noticeable by what metric lol? The eye test?

Does this have a little turbine in the path of the flow or is the pipe completely clear?
I did a test filing up a bucket with water from my shower head and my garden hose. There is a turbine that turns very easily without resistance.

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Sep 07, 2023 02:16 PM
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dealminer13Sep 07, 2023 02:16 PM
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This is not recommended if your home has a fire sprinkler which is on the same line as main.
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Sep 07, 2023 02:25 PM
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avinycSep 07, 2023 02:25 PM
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Quote from dealminer13 :
This is not recommended if your home has a fire sprinkler which is on the same line as main.
If you have a plumber installing, they can split the pipe off the main so the sprinkler as a dedicated connection to the main and the rest of your home is monitored with the valve.
Sep 07, 2023 02:25 PM
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randomman1Sep 07, 2023 02:25 PM
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Quote from bovineplane :
At 2 am most households are not using water. Pick a time when you do not normally use water. If this meter senses water flow at those times, likely a leak somewhere. It doesnt know where, just that water is flowing when it shouldnt. If it detects this situation it notifies you and shuts off the water.
I run my dishwasher every other night starting at around midnight.
Sep 07, 2023 02:26 PM
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avinycSep 07, 2023 02:26 PM
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Quote from oldcat87 :
How can you plug it in to get electricity where main shutoff is? Typically there is no outlet where main shutoff is
The simplest solution would be to hire an electrician to run an outlet to a spot near the main.
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Sep 07, 2023 02:31 PM
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Lordslamma
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Sep 07, 2023 02:31 PM
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Quote from sdaddict001 :
Wouldn't you have to shutoff the main line from outside or did you just install this after your existing main valve?
Yes, I installed it right after my main shutoff valve, about a foot away. I would add a second valve after it if I did it again, so you don't have to drain all the water from the house if you ever remove it.
Sep 07, 2023 02:32 PM
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BimmerPilotSep 07, 2023 02:32 PM
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Is the 1" unit different in terms of internal hardware from the 3/4" unit? Or does it just have adapters? The 3/4" unit is considerably cheaper. I have a 1" main and of course would not install 3/4" unit if it is different and would restrict flow, but if internals are the same anyway, I can easily put reducing adapters myself.
Sep 07, 2023 02:41 PM
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dealmeister3000Sep 07, 2023 02:41 PM
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Quote from Ahdjeixn :
Word of caution for those who live in very hot climates. I got this product in 2020. Works as described, it's great. However during a very hot summer it broke. Eventually started leaking water and we had to remove it. It's rated for outdoor use but it will not going to do well at temperatures of 110F for prolonged periods of time.

In its defense - none of my other outdoor smart gadgets do well at these temperatures either.
What about cameras?
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Sep 07, 2023 02:44 PM
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paskovvSep 07, 2023 02:44 PM
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Quote from SmartSquirrel9403 :
Some people are mean. Could be because they get their kicks out of it or potentially in order to get you to pay to have it turned back on.
This has manual override so do not need to be paranoid

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