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expirediconian | Staff posted Oct 6, 2023 10:59 PM

Sennheiser HD 800 S Dynamic Open-Back Stereo Headphones

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Adorama has Sennheiser HD 800 S Dynamic Open-Back Stereo Headphones on sale for $1799.95 - $650.95 when you apply promo code OCTO2023 at checkout = $1149. Shipping is free.

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  • Reference class open-back audiophile headphones
  • 56mm Ring Radiator dynamic transducer system
  • Impressively natural and spatial listening experience
  • Acoustic absorber system prevents frequency masking for unheralded detail
  • Ultra-ergonomic adjustable metal headband with inner damping element
  • Luxuriously comfortable microfiber ear and headband padding on key contact points

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Adorama has Sennheiser HD 800 S Dynamic Open-Back Stereo Headphones on sale for $1799.95 - $650.95 when you apply promo code OCTO2023 at checkout = $1149. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for finding this deal.

About this Item:
  • Reference class open-back audiophile headphones
  • 56mm Ring Radiator dynamic transducer system
  • Impressively natural and spatial listening experience
  • Acoustic absorber system prevents frequency masking for unheralded detail
  • Ultra-ergonomic adjustable metal headband with inner damping element
  • Luxuriously comfortable microfiber ear and headband padding on key contact points

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Oct 8, 2023 4:28 AM
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JohnCena1337Oct 8, 2023 4:28 AM
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Quote from revoc :
By now these are worth $900.

Source: I am a professional assessor of value.

People can end their headphone journey by getting a Sony 7506 and be done.
unlike some headphones by focal or hifiman, sennheiser headphones should only be judged by their sound quality and not the durability of the headphone. this alone puts sennheiser above the competition; even if for similar sound performance. with the hd800s, you can just slap a tube amp on it and it'll be top tier without any EQ or modifications. at this price, it mainly competes with the hifiman arya organic but even if that headphone was better (and $150 more), can you really trust the headphone to still work 5 years from now?
Oct 8, 2023 5:26 AM
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McDrMuffinManOct 8, 2023 5:26 AM
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank McDrMuffinMan

Hey guys,
Some advice if you're going to buy these
1) you need an amp. The best you'll really get for the money and is a good amount nonetheless is the JDS Labs Atom or Atom +
2);these are open back, you'll hear lots of background noise but the sound stage will feel incredibly immersive
3) if you have to ask "is this for me" it's not. These are amazing and sound great, and unless you're the kind of person who's willing to one day drop a car payment for headphones, save your money and time, spend no more than $350 for 95% of the experience with a midrange Sennheiser, Behringer, etc headphoneb+ Atom amp.

The truth is, it's not life-changing

Check out Audio Science Reviews for more on this kind of stuff
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Oct 8, 2023 5:54 AM
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KRT09Oct 8, 2023 5:54 AM
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Quote from McDrMuffinMan :
Check out Audio Science Reviews for more on this kind of stuff
Please don't base anything off Amir (ASR).

Measurements are largely irrelevant considering a $9 dongle can measure perfectly. ASR is mostly useless in 2023.

Amir (70 year old dude) measures all headphones on measurement rig and bases his conclusions on his measurements.
Last edited by KRT09 October 7, 2023 at 10:58 PM.
Oct 8, 2023 6:11 AM
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cwooOct 8, 2023 6:11 AM
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Quote from SmartHaddock3847 :
AirPods Max is less than half the price!
And these are like 10 times as good.
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Quote from FioreB2420 :
Who buys $1,000 headphones? Let me ask this again, who goes on slick deals to look for $1,000 headphones?
I bought $1,000 headphones (they cost $1,000 2 years ago brand new) for $300. Was it an epic deal? Absolutely. https://slickdeals.net/f/16912621-hifiman-ananda-over-ear-planar-magnetic-headphones-399-free-shipping?p=166207276#post166207276
Oct 8, 2023 7:54 AM
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newtbosOct 8, 2023 7:54 AM
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Quote from revoc :
By now these are worth $900.

Source: I am a professional assessor of value.

People can end their headphone journey by getting a Sony 7506 and be done.
Mind if I ask you an off-topic question? Since the tax law changes on donations went into effect, have you gotten more work from people now making less frequent but larger donations in order to reach the $5k threshold, and does it make sense to do that for things like clothes? Just wondering if the cost of your labor is greater than the tax savings ?
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Oct 8, 2023 9:16 AM
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init0Oct 8, 2023 9:16 AM
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Guys,

Before putting down money on these, check out Slate VSX.

Pro audio engineers are utilizing VSX to sound check these
and other speaker emulations. Its $500 and amazing.
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Oct 8, 2023 9:23 AM
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TrentWalkerOct 8, 2023 9:23 AM
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Quote from KRT09 :
Please don't base anything off Amir (ASR).

Measurements are largely irrelevant considering a $9 dongle can measure perfectly. ASR is mostly useless in 2023.

Amir (70 year old dude) measures all headphones on measurement rig and bases his conclusions on his measurements.
I'm not saying I buy audio gear solely based on measurements, but you're really short changing the service that people like ASR/Amir and also reviewers like Erin's Audio Corner provide for audio enthusiasts.

How are measurements "irrelevant" just because a dongle can measure as transparent? He's just interpreting results from the APx555 analyzer. Many hi-fi brands and reviewer publications like Stereophile and SoundStage are also providing measurements from similar Audio Analyzer devices. Why would they do this if it were irrelevant?

Whether you believe that measurements are the determinant if something sounds good or not is another discussion. Personally, I'd rather see if a device measures well in THD, crosstalk, etc. or the measured frequency response of a headphone or speaker vs. only having subjective reviews to rely on that say something like "This sounds good. Trust me, bro."

Not sure what you are implying by talking about his age, but if it is concerns about his hearing, it doesn't matter because he only uses objective measurements to make recommendations for gear. He could have profound hearing loss it would have no bearing on what he does over there.
Oct 8, 2023 11:28 AM
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hax0rwax0rOct 8, 2023 11:28 AM
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I've been waiting for these to go back on sale after I missed the last deal. I own a pair of the HD 820 already and always felt like I should have gone with the HD 800 S from the start. Thanks OP.
Oct 8, 2023 3:07 PM
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KRT09Oct 8, 2023 3:07 PM
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Quote from TrentWalker :
How are measurements "irrelevant" just because a dongle can measure as transparent? He's just interpreting results from the APx555 analyzer. Many hi-fi brands and reviewer publications like Stereophile and SoundStage are also providing measurements from similar Audio Analyzer devices. Why would they do this if it were irrelevant?
Because they were relevant in the past. This is 2023. DAC's and amps are basically commodity tech now. Cheap transparent DAC's and amps are abundant. Headphone competition is fierce. Measurements done by a rig are largely irrelevant now. I think it's actually impressive that these measurements really don't mean much anymore, it shows how far audio tech has come.

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Whether you believe that measurements are the determinant if something sounds good or not is another discussion. Personally, I'd rather see if a device measures well in THD, crosstalk, etc. or the measured frequency response of a headphone or speaker vs. only having subjective reviews to rely on that say something like "This sounds good. Trust me, bro."
Sites like ASR have spawned number chasers looking at stuff like SINAD and THD numbers that are largely irrelevant now. People now think an amp is "better" because it scores higher on Amir's measurement rig that finds distortion far beyond human hearing. Measurements are more useful for speakers but still over-analyzed by followers of Amir.

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Not sure what you are implying by talking about his age, but if it is concerns about his hearing, it doesn't matter because he only uses objective measurements to make recommendations for gear. He could have profound hearing loss it would have no bearing on what he does over there.
Because it's a sad fact that human hearing degrades with age. Many have also pointed out that Amir listens too loud (besides his stress tests). His reviews are largely based on distortion levels. Who's hearing this distortion? Not Amir, it's a robot measuring rig. He also tests before he listens, and anyone with half a brain knows that introduces bias. This is why DCA (Dan Clark Audio) specifically told him to listen before he measured when reviewing the Stealth (mentioned in the review).

I'm in the camp that more data is a good thing, and I don't think ASR is bad, but it has steered many in the wrong direction, looking at numbers that mean nothing to human ears.
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CyberAthleteOct 8, 2023 3:24 PM
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Quote from McDrMuffinMan :
Hey guys,
Some advice if you're going to buy these
1) you need an amp. The best you'll really get for the money and is a good amount nonetheless is the JDS Labs Atom or Atom +
2);these are open back, you'll hear lots of background noise but the sound stage will feel incredibly immersive
3) if you have to ask "is this for me" it's not. These are amazing and sound great, and unless you're the kind of person who's willing to one day drop a car payment for headphones, save your money and time, spend no more than $350 for 95% of the experience with a midrange Sennheiser, Behringer, etc headphoneb+ Atom amp.

The truth is, it's not life-changing

Check out Audio Science Reviews for more on this kind of stuff
It sounds like your opinion is based off of what you have read and heard about these vs being an owner. I have owned these for around 4 years, and these although they do sound great, lean towards analytical rather than musical. There are other headphones that sound better for music in most genres. The genres/purposes I listed out, they are amazing for that. Outside of those reasons I don't reach for these.
Oct 8, 2023 3:43 PM
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chipperedOct 8, 2023 3:43 PM
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I'm sure these are amazing, and I'm probably just a little sad I can't afford them, but if I pay a grand on headphones, I better be able to hear what the person is thinking on the other end
Oct 8, 2023 4:27 PM
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TigDOct 8, 2023 4:27 PM
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Quote from FioreB2420 :
Who buys $1,000 headphones? Let me ask this again, who goes on slick deals to look for $1,000 headphones?
The reason I originally bought $1000 headphones years ago is that the original HD800 was regarded as a reference standard, and I was beginning a career in audio mixing and mastering. Mine had a couple mods, e.g. to resolve the 6kHz issue, and were objectively (measured) better than this newer S model.

Flash forward to 2023 and I agree with you. I bought AKG K612 on a whim as they were half off at $100, and ten days later sold my HD800 (for ~$900). It was a sidegrade. Next thing I knew, the same thing happened with my Beyerdynamic DT1770; Shure SRH840 went on sale for $75 and a couple weeks later I sold the Beyers for ~$400. Another sidegrade.

A person invested in expensive audio equipment is predisposed to finding ways to justify the purchases, and that's not hard to do, because the majority of online discussion about "audiophile" / "hifi" equipment is inaccurate. There's also good information, especially from Crinacle and Audio Science Review. And some headphones costing well beyond $1000 are worthwhile in specific cases. Just not most.

But you should expect anyone acknowledging this, in a thread like this, to be heavily downvoted.

Edit: K612, not "K12."
Last edited by TigD October 8, 2023 at 07:55 PM.
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Quote from TigD :
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Flash forward to 2023 and I agree with you. I bought AKG K12 on a whim as they were half off at $100, and ten days later sold my HD800 (for ~$900). It was a sidegrade. Next thing I knew, the same thing happened with my Beyerdynamic DT1770; Shure SRH840 went on sale for $75 and a couple weeks later I sold the Beyers for ~$400. Another sidegrade.
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Is AKG K12 a typo? Did you mean K612 Pro or K712 Pro? TIA

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Oct 8, 2023 5:40 PM
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TrentWalkerOct 8, 2023 5:40 PM
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Quote from KRT09 :
Because they were relevant in the past. This is 2023. DAC's and amps are basically commodity tech now. Cheap transparent DAC's and amps are abundant....

Sites like ASR have spawned number chasers looking at stuff like SINAD and THD numbers that are largely irrelevant now. People now think an amp is "better" because it scores higher on Amir's measurement rig that finds distortion far beyond human hearing. Measurements are more useful for speakers but still over-analyzed by followers of Amir.

I'm in the camp that more data is a good thing, and I don't think ASR is bad, but it has steered many in the wrong direction, looking at numbers that mean nothing to human ears.
I agree that the advent of ASR has spawned people who just like to have the best measured SINAD, but who cares? It doesn't affect me. If people purchase gear purely on measured figures and that's what makes them happy, who am I to judge?

But those measurements are not "irrelevant". They are useful because they can verify if the manufacturer specs are truthful. For example, can the amp reach the advertised power specs? Is it stable at 4 ohm? etc. Traditionally, consumers and hi-fi enthusiasts have been subject to bias based on brand name, price, and positive reviews from publications like What Hifi? Absolute Sound, etc. I'm not saying gear that measures with the flattest FR is always going to sound the best, but I definitely would want to see if something has like a high noise floor or audibly high THD, which Amir has found some mega buck so-called "high end" gear to have before.

You and I may be looking at a DAC, amp, or headphone like this in the $1k range as hi-fi enthusiasts that are willing to pay for quality. But if someone else is just looking for a dongle to do the job for the cheapest price possible, then it's nice to know you can look at measurements done by an independent party like Amir to see if it's broken or not.

If the alternative is not having information and just trusting the manufacturers blindly or random subjective reviewers only, I choose having measurements. And it doesn't matter what Amir writes in the subjective listening impressions portion of his reviews if you don't trust his hearing. You can just look at the measurements to get the pertinent information you need.

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