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MacBook Pro blasts forward with the M3 Pro chip. Built on 3-nanometer technology and featuring an all-new GPU architecture, they're the most advanced chips ever built for a personal computer. And each one brings more pro performance and capability.
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Building on M3, the M3 Pro chip features more CPU and GPU cores and additional unified memory, driving even greater performance for those with more demanding workflows like researchers, coders, and creative pros. So stitching together and manipulating gigantic gigapixel panorama images or compiling millions of lines of code is even faster.
• Up to 12-core CPU
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• Up to 36GB unified memory
• Supports up to two external displays
• Up to 5.7x faster than Intel-based model
• Up to 2.4x faster than M1 Pro model
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Games will look more detailed than ever thanks to hardware-accelerated mesh shading. This brings greater capability and efficiency to geometry processing, enabling games to render more visually complex scenes.
• Up to 2.5x faster rendering than 14-inch MacBook Pro with M1 Max
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Why the fark did Apple decide to :
1. Remove the thunderbolt port on the right side?
2. Reduce the memory bandwidth on all but the most expensive configuration?
3. Reduce the number of performance cores and gpu cores?
4. Not improve on external monitor resolution support?
And this is after the significant price increase for the more advanced models. Sigh!
The thunderbolt port on the right is only removed on the M3 machine, not the M3 Pro or M3 Max. The performance CPU and GPU cores were reduced in the M3 Pro configurations, but were both increased in the M3 Max configurations. The price was increased (relative to the M2 spec for spec) only for the M3 Max, it was actually reduced for the M3 Pro relative to the M2 Pro. The price adjustments are in line with what they did with the M3 Pro (decrease performance and GPU cores) and M3 Max (increase performance and GPU cores) chips respectively.
I think clearly what Apple intended here was to widen the difference between the M3 Pro and Max to make it more worth it to more people to upgrade to the M3 Max. Before, the CPU cores were the same between the M2 Pro unbinned chip and the M2 Max, so unless you needed the extra GPU cores or the higher max memory, there was no reason to upgrade. This year, it looks like the M3 Pro is more of a side grade to the M2 Pro (better more efficient 3nm chipset evened out by less performance cores) while they improved the M3 Max relative to the M2 Max a decent amount.
Not saying I agree with what Apple did or that I'm defending their new chip designs, just stating what I think Apple's doing.
Hmm, they haven't even released but they are already on sale? I guess this is the new strategy,. Bump up MSRP, put them on "sale" and then watch people run out to jump on the "deal."
Hmm, they haven't even released but they are already on sale? I guess this is the new strategy,. Bump up MSRP, put them on "sale" and then watch people run out to jump on the "deal."
Adorama had this coupon since last year nothing new there but they might have forgot to add this new model in exclusions list , might see that happen soon but if you wait 3 more months or till Jan this will be regular price
The same configuration with apple care after tax is 2484 on apple.com but only 2021 on adorama. I am tempted to jump on it. Should I get this one or M1 Pro with 32 GB of RAM for about the same price? This looks like a price mistake?
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Is it possible to play real games on this or will Macs continue to forever suck for gaming?
Very few games support macOS. It used to be you could use boot camp to install Windows and play some games(albeit with a slow GPU), but that's no longer allowed by Apple. They don't even let you dual boot linux anymore.
So to answer your question, no. Don't buy a mac for gaming.
You can get a far better spec'd Windows gaming laptop for less than these cost, and you'll actually be able to upgrade it in the future; windows gaming laptops generally have multiple RAM and SSD slots(even the wifi card) so you can upgrade in the future and keep using your computer for a longer period of time. I've been using the same windows laptop for a decade now. It still runs perfectly, and I've upgraded the ssd and RAM over the years.
If anyone is stuck with a mac and still wants to game, I'd recommend checking out Factorio. It's an amazing game, and they have great support for Macs, including a native M1/2/3 port.
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Why the fark did Apple decide to :
1. Remove the thunderbolt port on the right side?
2. Reduce the memory bandwidth on all but the most expensive configuration?
3. Reduce the number of performance cores and gpu cores?
4. Not improve on external monitor resolution support?
And this is after the significant price increase for the more advanced models. Sigh!
The thunderbolt port on the right is only removed on the M3 machine, not the M3 Pro or M3 Max. The performance CPU and GPU cores were reduced in the M3 Pro configurations, but were both increased in the M3 Max configurations. The price was increased (relative to the M2 spec for spec) only for the M3 Max, it was actually reduced for the M3 Pro relative to the M2 Pro. The price adjustments are in line with what they did with the M3 Pro (decrease performance and GPU cores) and M3 Max (increase performance and GPU cores) chips respectively.
I think clearly what Apple intended here was to widen the difference between the M3 Pro and Max to make it more worth it to more people to upgrade to the M3 Max. Before, the CPU cores were the same between the M2 Pro unbinned chip and the M2 Max, so unless you needed the extra GPU cores or the higher max memory, there was no reason to upgrade. This year, it looks like the M3 Pro is more of a side grade to the M2 Pro (better more efficient 3nm chipset evened out by less performance cores) while they improved the M3 Max relative to the M2 Max a decent amount.
Not saying I agree with what Apple did or that I'm defending their new chip designs, just stating what I think Apple's doing.
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I get the $1799 price when logged in, all the way through checkout. AppleCare is a waste for me. Been buying Macs since 2009 and have never filed a warranty claim or had a failure — and I'm not careless with my expensive toys. Besides, my CC will give me an extra year warranty anyway.
The integrated SOC nature of them means that if anything goes wrong on the mainboard (including ram or SSD, which are conventionally swappable), you're basically in for a $700-1500+ repair bill depending on your configuration. That's what makes AC+ worth it for these... because while you might not break them, it'd suck for a component to fail just out of warranty.
That said... I've had my 14" M1 Pro since day 1 and it's still amazing without any issues whatsoever. It doesn't seem like these Apple Silicon macbooks have had any widespread reliability issues over time.
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Why the fark did Apple decide to :
1. Remove the thunderbolt port on the right side?
2. Reduce the memory bandwidth on all but the most expensive configuration?
3. Reduce the number of performance cores and gpu cores?
4. Not improve on external monitor resolution support?
And this is after the significant price increase for the more advanced models. Sigh!
"this is after the significant price increase for the more advanced models."
what does that have to do with this particular model?
LOL it sounds to me you're trying to make it sound worse than it really is.
they did 1-4 to reduce costs and brought the price down. not hard to understand.
Is it possible to play real games on this or will Macs continue to forever suck for gaming?
If the game runs natively "runs on metal" it will run close to a mid level GPU. At 1920*1080. If it uses the translation layer don't hold your breath lol. Macs are getting better. But still have a way to go to be on par with high end GPUs.
Best bet for gaming is with the non binned M3 Max that will have 40 GPU Cores! Vs the Pro with 18. A console or a windows PC are still your best bet for gaming sadly.
It's not just a laptop with 8gb of RAM and a 512gb ssd.
It's a laptop with a non-upgrade soldered-to-the-motherboard 8gb of RAM and 512gb ssd.
Oh, and on top of that, it's shared RAM; your GPU will be using part of that 8gb.
Why anyone would spend $1400(or $1600 on Apple.com) on that is beyond me.
My 2013 generic Windows laptop (Sager NP8290, which I'm still using as my daily driver) has 32GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD installed. Aren't we way beyond considering 8GB of shared RAM and a 512GB SSD in a "premium professional" laptop as acceptable?
Oddly enough, if you go for the most expensive M3 Pro Macbook Pro, it maxes out at 36GB of shared RAM for $2900(with a 512GB hard drive). That's the same as my 2013 windows laptop has installed(32GB RAM and 4GB VRAM), and that cost far less than this. If you want to match my 2TB ssd capacity, that'll be an extra $600(Why? How?) for a total of $3500.
In fact, the largest ssd you can order on a Macbook Pro M3 Pro is 4TB for a $1200 upcharge. I could slap a second 2TB drive in my 2013 laptop to match that for a $100 upcharge. How can anyone justify paying $1200 for a 4TB drive?
In fact, my laptop supports 3 internal drives, so I could slap a third in and have 6TB of storage space in my 10 year old laptop for $200, and somehow that's literally impossible on an expensive "premium high-end professional" laptop that hasn't even launched yet.
I promise you the m3 machine with 36gb ram and 2tb storage will blow your 2013 windows machine with 36 gb of ram+vram and 2tb storage out of the water when it comes to performance.
You can argue that the Mac upgrades are overpriced all you want, but doing it by comparing the m-model Mac's to a 10 year old pc laptop is not the way to do it.
Why the fark did Apple decide to :
1. Remove the thunderbolt port on the right side?
2. Reduce the memory bandwidth on all but the most expensive configuration?
3. Reduce the number of performance cores and gpu cores?
4. Not improve on external monitor resolution support?
And this is after the significant price increase for the more advanced models. Sigh!
1. because memory bandwidth was reduced
2. to increase battery life and efficiency
3. to increase battery life and efficiency
4. your "supposed to" use it with apple's display hardware (studio display, etc)
You have to understand that slamming the best of the best, latest and greatest into the next gen machine days has gone now. All these new hardwares are 99% capable of doing what 99% of the population needs to do.
now its the time for efficiency, and integration.
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1. Remove the thunderbolt port on the right side?
2. Reduce the memory bandwidth on all but the most expensive configuration?
3. Reduce the number of performance cores and gpu cores?
4. Not improve on external monitor resolution support?
And this is after the significant price increase for the more advanced models. Sigh!
I think clearly what Apple intended here was to widen the difference between the M3 Pro and Max to make it more worth it to more people to upgrade to the M3 Max. Before, the CPU cores were the same between the M2 Pro unbinned chip and the M2 Max, so unless you needed the extra GPU cores or the higher max memory, there was no reason to upgrade. This year, it looks like the M3 Pro is more of a side grade to the M2 Pro (better more efficient 3nm chipset evened out by less performance cores) while they improved the M3 Max relative to the M2 Max a decent amount.
Not saying I agree with what Apple did or that I'm defending their new chip designs, just stating what I think Apple's doing.
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So to answer your question, no. Don't buy a mac for gaming.
You can get a far better spec'd Windows gaming laptop for less than these cost, and you'll actually be able to upgrade it in the future; windows gaming laptops generally have multiple RAM and SSD slots(even the wifi card) so you can upgrade in the future and keep using your computer for a longer period of time. I've been using the same windows laptop for a decade now. It still runs perfectly, and I've upgraded the ssd and RAM over the years.
If anyone is stuck with a mac and still wants to game, I'd recommend checking out Factorio. It's an amazing game, and they have great support for Macs, including a native M1/2/3 port.
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1. Remove the thunderbolt port on the right side?
2. Reduce the memory bandwidth on all but the most expensive configuration?
3. Reduce the number of performance cores and gpu cores?
4. Not improve on external monitor resolution support?
And this is after the significant price increase for the more advanced models. Sigh!
I think clearly what Apple intended here was to widen the difference between the M3 Pro and Max to make it more worth it to more people to upgrade to the M3 Max. Before, the CPU cores were the same between the M2 Pro unbinned chip and the M2 Max, so unless you needed the extra GPU cores or the higher max memory, there was no reason to upgrade. This year, it looks like the M3 Pro is more of a side grade to the M2 Pro (better more efficient 3nm chipset evened out by less performance cores) while they improved the M3 Max relative to the M2 Max a decent amount.
Not saying I agree with what Apple did or that I'm defending their new chip designs, just stating what I think Apple's doing.
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That said... I've had my 14" M1 Pro since day 1 and it's still amazing without any issues whatsoever. It doesn't seem like these Apple Silicon macbooks have had any widespread reliability issues over time.
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1. Remove the thunderbolt port on the right side?
2. Reduce the memory bandwidth on all but the most expensive configuration?
3. Reduce the number of performance cores and gpu cores?
4. Not improve on external monitor resolution support?
And this is after the significant price increase for the more advanced models. Sigh!
what does that have to do with this particular model?
LOL it sounds to me you're trying to make it sound worse than it really is.
they did 1-4 to reduce costs and brought the price down. not hard to understand.
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So, given the choice of making a better computer for the price that more people would buy, or charging [apple.com] their loyal customers ridiculous [apple.com] markups on cheap components [apple.com], well, we see what they chose.
Best bet for gaming is with the non binned M3 Max that will have 40 GPU Cores! Vs the Pro with 18. A console or a windows PC are still your best bet for gaming sadly.
Might keep it sealed for few days to see if better deal pops up
It's a laptop with a non-upgrade soldered-to-the-motherboard 8gb of RAM and 512gb ssd.
Oh, and on top of that, it's shared RAM; your GPU will be using part of that 8gb.
Why anyone would spend $1400(or $1600 on Apple.com) on that is beyond me.
My 2013 generic Windows laptop (Sager NP8290, which I'm still using as my daily driver) has 32GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD installed. Aren't we way beyond considering 8GB of shared RAM and a 512GB SSD in a "premium professional" laptop as acceptable?
Oddly enough, if you go for the most expensive M3 Pro Macbook Pro, it maxes out at 36GB of shared RAM for $2900(with a 512GB hard drive). That's the same as my 2013 windows laptop has installed(32GB RAM and 4GB VRAM), and that cost far less than this. If you want to match my 2TB ssd capacity, that'll be an extra $600(Why? How?) for a total of $3500.
In fact, the largest ssd you can order on a Macbook Pro M3 Pro is 4TB for a $1200 upcharge. I could slap a second 2TB drive in my 2013 laptop to match that for a $100 upcharge. How can anyone justify paying $1200 for a 4TB drive?
In fact, my laptop supports 3 internal drives, so I could slap a third in and have 6TB of storage space in my 10 year old laptop for $200, and somehow that's literally impossible on an expensive "premium high-end professional" laptop that hasn't even launched yet.
You can argue that the Mac upgrades are overpriced all you want, but doing it by comparing the m-model Mac's to a 10 year old pc laptop is not the way to do it.
1. Remove the thunderbolt port on the right side?
2. Reduce the memory bandwidth on all but the most expensive configuration?
3. Reduce the number of performance cores and gpu cores?
4. Not improve on external monitor resolution support?
And this is after the significant price increase for the more advanced models. Sigh!
2. to increase battery life and efficiency
3. to increase battery life and efficiency
4. your "supposed to" use it with apple's display hardware (studio display, etc)
You have to understand that slamming the best of the best, latest and greatest into the next gen machine days has gone now. All these new hardwares are 99% capable of doing what 99% of the population needs to do.
now its the time for efficiency, and integration.
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