Here we go - it's been a while since this one has been in stock in red, and even longer since it's been on a sale this good! (Very similar to the Gretsch Streamliner center block deals that have been cropping up, but for about a hundred bucks less.) And - the Indo gig bags are a nice free plus - they're actually pretty nice!
Currently on sale for $199.99 - 30% off with coupon code EXTRA30 = $139.99 with free shipping.
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=610502
Specs:
Model 610502
Color Transparent Red
Number of Strings 6
Body Style Double‑cutaway semi-hollow body
Orientation Right
Top Material Maple
Body Material Maple
Fretboard Material Rosewood
Neck Material Maple
Nut 43x3 mm bone
Neck Construction Set‑in
Neck Shape C
Fretboard Radius 350mm
Scale 628mm scale
Number of Frets 22
Frets Size 2.6mm
Pickups HH ‑ Ceramic, 9.5K (N), 11.6K (B)
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To be sure, I'd prefer Gretsch or Ibanez on the headstock, but at half price, a lot of people really like these bargain Monoprice options.
(For what little it's worth, I deal with a lot of guitars, and the Indios aren't always perfect. But at the price, they do well. My recent batch of $70 Indio Teles had rougher frets than usual, but the $70 Idyllwild acoustics have been more playable than the recent Ibanez acoustics we've bought, and much better than the Boroughs options. And the gig bags are great, several steps up from the Kramer and Donner kits.)
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To be sure, I'd prefer Gretsch or Ibanez on the headstock, but at half price, a lot of people really like these bargain Monoprice options.
(For what little it's worth, I deal with a lot of guitars, and the Indios aren't always perfect. But at the price, they do well. My recent batch of $70 Indio Teles had rougher frets than usual, but the $70 Idyllwild acoustics have been more playable than the recent Ibanez acoustics we've bought, and much better than the Boroughs options. And the gig bags are great, several steps up from the Kramer and Donner kits.)
You can get a Gator gig bag (10mm thick padding) for $30. https://www.amazon.com/Gator-Stan...B000N4UV
I'm currently wrestling with this whole cheap guitar thing. The Firefly T-style that arrived yesterday punches above its weight for sure, but it still needs better tuners and, for actual performance, pickups that aren't so microphonic.Changing these things costs money and time both. I've been happier just choking down a bit higher price and buying something nicer on the used market. Even better, I get to play a guitar that just makes me feel good when I pick it up or show it to others.
My test has become whether "for the price" enters into the positive description of the product. I want "good" not "good for the price."
I just got a new Gretsch today (Jim Dandy from the slick deal) and it plays well, but fret ends are sharp, and the headstock is poorly designed: the A string hits the E string winding on its way by. (A strange and dumb error for a real brand.)
Most of the Fenders and Squiers (40th & CV) have been good, but one of the Classic Vibe teles suffers from a badly cut nut and is super sitar - it's unplayable until we get it set up properly.
Of six Ibanez, two (one acoustic and one bass) had very high action out of the box and needed a proper setup.
Any brand at this price is a bit of a gamble unseen. Just too many variables in wood! We've got some cheap guitars that play amazing, and some high zoot models that fight setups for no good reason. I suppose that's what makes instruments so interesting!
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And so you say you had bad knobs and they sent a replacement with bad neck. Then what did they do? Stuff happens; but you guys claiming it's a crap shoot are wrong. MP could not survive as a seller on the Internet if most people got broken guitars. That's a fact. That's why they have a solid return policy. They are not a dude selling on Amazon. And they have more happy customers than issues.
The real problem is folks stuck on brand names and high prices. Who only believe what they want to believe. The evidence clearly says otherwise. Ask yourself what is the risk. Not whether or not you can understand a great $50 guitar.
And learn how to set stuff up if you are collecting guitars, for goodness sake! MOST *new* guitars are coming with little or nothing to do; but understand the strings need to be played in or replaced and played in, AKA stretch to tune stability. And a damn tremolo is NOT a tuning issue when you set the springs tension firmly and your nut isn't binding the strings. And VERY basic stuff like installing your strings for best tuning stability and not going to thick. Use no larger than (Ernie Ball) 9's on Strat's and Tele's. Any 25.5 scale length guitars. I hear folks bitchin' about stupid stuff over and over in these posts. Watch a video (first) and 'till you find a good one for what you're doing. Including several about guitar MYTHS that make us look stupid!
And it's *not* that you'll get trouble "at those low prices"; because there's MORE trouble being reports at high prices. Perhaps that's just because people who pay high are then shocked it does not buy them absolute perfection every time. Even so; the picture is coming clear. Most of the time then very little is needed, at all price points (Not stating extra super setup); but it's likely something.
I saw report after report for the $529 Fender Player, about how it had all the very same issues folks claim you are going to get "every timer" with "cheap" guitars. Meanwhile; even purchases that did not say super setup was included are having happy customers receiving polished fret ends, straight necks and can *not* find a blemish numero uno, on highly finished UNBELIEVABLY low cost gear.
And there's a reason practically all YouTube guitar reviewers are saying they know better than to complain about issues; that take a few seconds to remedy. Like doing the TRAIN dance after stretching in the strings. And it's hard to say if the strings that come with a guitar are good or not. Etc...
You can always find a good music store and pay though the nose to buy retail *and* pay for a super level setup. But then what will you do then?
And so you say you had bad knobs and they sent a replacement with bad neck. Then what did they do? Stuff happens; but you guys claiming it's a crap shoot are wrong. MP could not survive as a seller on the Internet if most people got broken guitars. That's a fact. That's why they have a solid return policy. They are not a dude selling on Amazon. And they have more happy customers than issues.
The real problem is folks stuck on brand names and high prices. Who only believe what they want to believe. The evidence clearly says otherwise. Ask yourself what is the risk. Not whether or not you can understand a great $50 guitar.
And learn how to set stuff up if you are collecting guitars, for goodness sake! MOST *new* guitars are coming with little or nothing to do; but understand the strings need to be played in or replaced and played in, AKA stretch to tune stability. And a damn tremolo is NOT a tuning issue when you set the springs tension firmly and your nut isn't binding the strings. And VERY basic stuff like installing your strings for best tuning stability and not going to thick. Use no larger than (Ernie Ball) 9's on Strat's and Tele's. Any 25.5 scale length guitars. I hear folks bitchin' about stupid stuff over and over in these posts. Watch a video (first) and 'till you find a good one for what you're doing. Including several about guitar MYTHS that make us look stupid!
And it's *not* that you'll get trouble "at those low prices"; because there's MORE trouble being reports at high prices. Perhaps that's just because people who pay high are then shocked it does not buy them absolute perfection every time. Even so; the picture is coming clear. Most of the time then very little is needed, at all price points (Not stating extra super setup); but it's likely something.
I saw report after report for the $529 Fender Player, about how it had all the very same issues folks claim you are going to get "every timer" with "cheap" guitars. Meanwhile; even purchases that did not say super setup was included are having happy customers receiving polished fret ends, straight necks and can *not* find a blemish numero uno, on highly finished UNBELIEVABLY low cost gear.
And there's a reason practically all YouTube guitar reviewers are saying they know better than to complain about issues; that take a few seconds to remedy. Like doing the TRAIN dance after stretching in the strings. And it's hard to say if the strings that come with a guitar are good or not. Etc...
You can always find a good music store and pay though the nose to buy retail *and* pay for a super level setup. But then what will you do then?
And so you say you had bad knobs and they sent a replacement with bad neck. Then what did they do? Stuff happens; but you guys claiming it's a crap shoot are wrong. MP could not survive as a seller on the Internet if most people got broken guitars. That's a fact. That's why they have a solid return policy. They are not a dude selling on Amazon. And they have more happy customers than issues.
The real problem is folks stuck on brand names and high prices. Who only believe what they want to believe. The evidence clearly says otherwise. Ask yourself what is the risk. Not whether or not you can understand a great $50 guitar.
And learn how to set stuff up if you are collecting guitars, for goodness sake! MOST *new* guitars are coming with little or nothing to do; but understand the strings need to be played in or replaced and played in, AKA stretch to tune stability. And a damn tremolo is NOT a tuning issue when you set the springs tension firmly and your nut isn't binding the strings. And VERY basic stuff like installing your strings for best tuning stability and not going to thick. Use no larger than (Ernie Ball) 9's on Strat's and Tele's. Any 25.5 scale length guitars. I hear folks bitchin' about stupid stuff over and over in these posts. Watch a video (first) and 'till you find a good one for what you're doing. Including several about guitar MYTHS that make us look stupid!
And it's *not* that you'll get trouble "at those low prices"; because there's MORE trouble being reports at high prices. Perhaps that's just because people who pay high are then shocked it does not buy them absolute perfection every time. Even so; the picture is coming clear. Most of the time then very little is needed, at all price points (Not stating extra super setup); but it's likely something.
I saw report after report for the $529 Fender Player, about how it had all the very same issues folks claim you are going to get "every timer" with "cheap" guitars. Meanwhile; even purchases that did not say super setup was included are having happy customers receiving polished fret ends, straight necks and can *not* find a blemish numero uno, on highly finished UNBELIEVABLY low cost gear.
And there's a reason practically all YouTube guitar reviewers are saying they know better than to complain about issues; that take a few seconds to remedy. Like doing the TRAIN dance after stretching in the strings. And it's hard to say if the strings that come with a guitar are good or not. Etc...
You can always find a good music store and pay though the nose to buy retail *and* pay for a super level setup. But then what will you do then?
It kills me that it's an accepted practice in the industry to ship guitars without set-up and strings that are barely passable, if that. Yes, I'm aware a guitar will cost more, but considering the markups, and they're significant, I feel the increase in price would be slight.
Otherwise, there are beginners who don't know better, get frustrated and quit before they had a chance to truly begin.
It kills me that it's an accepted practice in the industry to ship guitars without set-up and strings that are barely passable, if that. Yes, I'm aware a guitar will cost more, but considering the markups, and they're significant, I feel the increase in price would be slight.
Otherwise, there are beginners who don't know better, get frustrated and quit before they had a chance to truly begin.
Play-ability is no excuse; because you can make it playable. We're not little kids and they usually have parents to make it playable or take it in for them. An adult saying they quit because of the instrument is acting like a child.
Play-ability is no excuse; because you can make it playable. We're not little kids and they usually have parents to make it playable or take it in for them. An adult saying they quit because of the instrument is acting like a child.
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