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expirediconian | Staff posted Dec 01, 2023 08:34 PM
expirediconian | Staff posted Dec 01, 2023 08:34 PM

Definitive Technology Demand D15 Speakers (Pair, Gloss White)

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Adorama has Definitive Technology Demand D15 Speakers (Pair, Black or White) on sale for $499. Shipping is free (select free shipping during check out).

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  • Proprietary Drivers detailed, balanced audio
  • Tweeters - Clear, Precise Highs
  • Midrange - Superior Detail & Natural Midrange
  • Woofers - Deeper, Cleaner Bass
  • Dual 8" Passive Bass Radiators for visceral bass response
  • Audiophile-Quality Crossovers for beautifully balanced audio
  • Linear Response Waveguide for natural, precise imaging

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Update: This popular deal is still available.

Adorama has Definitive Technology Demand D15 Speakers (Pair, Black or White) on sale for $499. Shipping is free (select free shipping during check out).

Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for sharing this deal.

Available Colors:
Key Details:
  • Proprietary Drivers detailed, balanced audio
  • Tweeters - Clear, Precise Highs
  • Midrange - Superior Detail & Natural Midrange
  • Woofers - Deeper, Cleaner Bass
  • Dual 8" Passive Bass Radiators for visceral bass response
  • Audiophile-Quality Crossovers for beautifully balanced audio
  • Linear Response Waveguide for natural, precise imaging

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Model: Definitive Technology Demand D15 Floorstanding Speaker, Right and Left, Black

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ROOSKIE
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Hi, the D11 uses a 6.5" mid/woofer; these use a 5.25". These would be something like the D9 stacked on top of the dual 5.25" bass woofers.
Most of the midrange roughness in the D11 is most likely from a resonance in the passive radiator.
This is probably not present in the D15 since the design is different & the woofers which drive the passive radiators do not receive frequencies high enough to excite a resonance in the midrange.
Audioholics published very detailed, well acquired, test results for this speaker, the D15. No reason to imagine what they measure like.
https://www.audioholics.com/tower...demand-d15

'upgrading' any driver in these will require reworking the crossover. That will be more important than anything else.

You would need to be able to measure very accurately in multiple ways and understand how to design a complex, driver specific, 3-way passive crossover. This is very difficult to do well even for very advanced hobbyists. Expect to spend significant time and resources and get a lot of help from the forums & books and getting lucky to have any chance of an improvement. Really not saying this in a condescending way, sure it might sound better to you if you slap a beryllium tweeter in there and call it done but yah it really won't be.

If you follow ASR you know even long standing companies like GR research, PartsExpress, and DIY groups using expensive Purifi drivers in custom designs have failed to impress more often than not. Heck loads upon loads of companies from entry to very high end price wise have struggled to pull off an objectively good design, even when factoring in for a wide subjective preference.

Honestly, instead of butchering the D15, I'd recommend you buy some sort of 'PEQ' and learn what can and can't be done tailoring the sound with that(big learning curve but worth it) and play around with it.
Also buy a simple 2-way DIY kit that sounds good but has some notable 'upgrade' paths and spend some time putting it together and then reworking the crossover and driver swapping in that to start to lean what goes into the situation. Who knows someday you may be a designer.

Also taking the 1/4" aluminum face off the D15 to get to the drivers is not for the faint of heart. It will not come off easily. I have taken one off a D9, it was a situation.
Hoseman666
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It's not found, it's a promotion exclusive to SD. Lots of Adorama posts are.
TierAngst
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No amps on these. Passive radiators only.

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Dec 03, 2023 06:56 PM
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BlueSofa6081Dec 03, 2023 06:56 PM
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Quote from AMLORcrd :
They have around 180 pairs of black and 260 pairs of white in stock.
How do you know that?
Dec 03, 2023 07:52 PM
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LovelySparrow901Dec 03, 2023 07:52 PM
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Quote from TierAngst :
Nothing old, Polk Rti A9. 2x 5.25" and 3x 7". I miss those. Hella mid bass.
Cool. My point was (you may already know this) bigger boxes with bigger drivers are usually more efficient than smaller boxes and smaller drivers. It's about moving surface area. Multiple larger drivers move much less than a single smaller woofer to create the same air pressure. Their sensitivity is usually in the 90 db's vs 80 db's for smaller speakers.
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Quote from Hoseman666 :
It's not found, it's a promotion exclusive to SD. Lots of Adorama posts are.
It was an email exclusive from Adorama. I got it, too.
Dec 03, 2023 09:19 PM
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RobertH4436Dec 03, 2023 09:19 PM
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I wish they would offer a deal with the center for $699. That combo is stil l$999.
Dec 04, 2023 01:49 AM
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AMLORcrdDec 04, 2023 01:49 AM
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Quote from ROOSKIE :
Hi, the D11 uses a 6.5" mid/woofer; these use a 5.25". These would be something like the D9 stacked on top of the dual 5.25" bass woofers.
Most of the midrange roughness in the D11 is most likely from a resonance in the passive radiator.
This is probably not present in the D15 since the design is different & the woofers which drive the passive radiators do not receive frequencies high enough to excite a resonance in the midrange.
Audioholics published very detailed, well acquired, test results for this speaker, the D15. No reason to imagine what they measure like.
https://www.audioholics.com/tower...demand-d15 [audioholics.com]

'upgrading' any driver in these will require reworking the crossover. That will be more important than anything else.

You would need to be able to measure very accurately in multiple ways and understand how to design a complex, driver specific, 3-way passive crossover. This is very difficult to do well even for very advanced hobbyists. Expect to spend significant time and resources and get a lot of help from the forums & books and getting lucky to have any chance of an improvement. Really not saying this in a condescending way, sure it might sound better to you if you slap a beryllium tweeter in there and call it done but yah it really won't be.

If you follow ASR you know even long standing companies like GR research, PartsExpress, and DIY groups using expensive Purifi drivers in custom designs have failed to impress more often than not. Heck loads upon loads of companies from entry to very high end price wise have struggled to pull off an objectively good design, even when factoring in for a wide subjective preference.

Honestly, instead of butchering the D15, I'd recommend you buy some sort of 'PEQ' and learn what can and can't be done tailoring the sound with that(big learning curve but worth it) and play around with it.
Also buy a simple 2-way DIY kit that sounds good but has some notable 'upgrade' paths and spend some time putting it together and then reworking the crossover and driver swapping in that to start to lean what goes into the situation. Who knows someday you may be a designer.

Also taking the 1/4" aluminum face off the D15 to get to the drivers is not for the faint of heart. It will not come off easily. I have taken one off a D9, it was a situation.
Thanks Rooksie. Excellent points. I didn't know you had to remove the front baffle to remove the speakers; that's kind of abnormal. It would definitely kill the idea of turning these into some kind of project speaker.

I've read that Audioholics review many times. I wish James Larson added distortion measurements as part of his reviews. It's one of the things I like better about Amir's reviews.

Although I have a lot of interest, I have no time for a project speaker. Thanks for adding some nails in that coffin Smilie

Does the D9 measure well; what were you attempting?

Do you think the subjective portion of JL's (Audioholics) review somewhat implies that distortion is controlled at higher output?
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LovelySparrow901Dec 04, 2023 01:59 AM
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Quote from RobertH4436 :
I wish they would offer a deal with the center for $699. That combo is stil l$999.
Do you really "need" a center?
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contactionDec 04, 2023 03:10 AM
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what about using 5 of these for the 5 channel bed layer?

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myvicky7Dec 04, 2023 03:14 AM
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Got these from Adorama last week. Thanks for the deal. Not a sound guy but wanted to ask what will be a good combination of bookshelves speakers and etc to make it as 9.2 system. I want to play them wirelessly if possible any suggestions ?
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myvicky7Dec 04, 2023 03:15 AM
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
Do you really "need" a center?
Not needed. Only when you want to have the feel
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LovelySparrow901Dec 04, 2023 03:18 AM
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Quote from myvicky7 :
Got these from Adorama last week. Thanks for the deal. Not a sound guy but wanted to ask what will be a good combination of bookshelves speakers and etc to make it as 9.2 system. I want to play them wirelessly if possible any suggestions ?
These are very neutral so anything else that is neutral will work.
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LovelySparrow901Dec 04, 2023 03:20 AM
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Not needed. Only when you want to have the feel
I agree. Center speakers exist for one reason…locking dialogue to the screen for people sitting off to the sides. Phantom center is fine for many setups.
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Why do you care? Tell us how this affects YOU? If SD had a secret warehouse full of stuff and sold it here at cheaper prices than anyone else and used some brand x name so you didn't know it was SD making the money, what does it matter? Is it something you want? Is the price better than everyone else? Then buy it. Or don't. I just don't get your issue. People come here for deals. And we get them. If the people running SD are rolling in cash as a result, good for them. They're doing all the work and it hasn't cost me a dime.
If you can't see the conflict of interest going on with promotion of deals on a website in exchange for a kickback and it not being disclosed then I'm not sure what to say to you. Anyone who's ever given a lecture in academic circles know they have to disclose any potential financial interest they may have in the subject matter. Even YouTubers have to disclose if they're a paid sponsor of a company when talking about products. But go ahead and pretend that SD has your best interest at heart.

Also I think it's pretty funny how you're criticizing someone who's been here way longer than you have and has already "saved people thousands" by all the deals that I've posted over the years. And I've definitely gotten my share of emails over the years asking to shill products for this and that because of it but I'd really rather not.
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LovelySparrow901Dec 04, 2023 05:08 AM
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If you can't see the conflict of interest going on with promotion of deals on a website in exchange for a kickback and it not being disclosed then I'm not sure what to say to you. Anyone who's ever given a lecture in academic circles know they have to disclose any potential financial interest they may have in the subject matter. Even YouTubers have to disclose if they're a paid sponsor of a company when talking about products. But go ahead and pretend that SD has your best interest at heart.

Also I think it's pretty funny how you're criticizing someone who's been here way longer than you have and has already "saved people thousands" by all the deals that I've posted over the years. And I've definitely gotten my share of emails over the years asking to shill products for this and that because of it but I'd really rather not.
I missed the part HOW any of this affects YOU.
If you don't like how this site is run, don't participate. Problem solved.
The length of time I've been here is irrelevant.
We've run out of real problems when we complain about how a FREE website that saves people money manages itself.
Are you a financial justice warrior? 🙄
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Quote from LovelySparrow901 :
I missed the part HOW any of this affects YOU.
If you don't like how this site is run, don't participate. Problem solved.
The length of time I've been here is irrelevant.
We've run out of real problems when we complain about how a FREE website that saves people money manages itself.
Are you a financial justice warrior? 🙄
You must be really young to be this naive. You keep saying it's a free site. You haven't learned that nothing in life is free. And if you're not paying for a product you are the product.

Like I said I participate and contribute way more than you do. Just because someone likes and uses something doesn't mean they can't be critical of it.

And of course there are a lot of other things in life to complain about. This isn't really the forum to do that so don't know why you keep bringing it up.
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I pulled the trigger! Now I need a cheap and neat amp to drive these, any help/input is appreciated!

What I am looking: Airplay 2, Spotify Connect, Alexa Cast (for Amazon Music)...

The question is, I could go with a dedicated (and maybe old) receiver/amp plus a WiiM Mini to take care of all my streaming requirements above, or I could go with an all-in solution such as WiiM Amp.

Any suggestions? Any active deals?
Not any kind of knowledgeable on latest tech but I bought this for considerably more nearly 2 years ago and besides some detailed setup it sounds fantastic, works equally well and IMO this price is comparable to the deal on these speakers.
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