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Aqara Smart Light Switch (No Neutral, Single Rocker) $30

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I've had this alert set up on triple camel for an entire year, and it FINALLY went on sale.

The big win with these is:
- It works perfectly with Home Assistant without the need for an Aqara hub.
- It works perfectly without a neutral wire, which is highly typical of homes built more than 20 years ago.

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Model: Aqara Smart Light Switch (No Neutral, Single Rocker), Requires AQARA HUB, Zigbee Light Switch, Remote Control and Smart Home Automation, Compatible with HomeKit, Google, Works with Alexa, SmartThings

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SlickCemetery8271
12-29-2023 at 01:13 AM.
12-29-2023 at 01:13 AM.
Quote from blahbleh :
This switch is wifi AND hub dependent??? The whole point of being wifi dependent is to avoid hubs (versus zwave and zigbee). Who the heck designed this???
This is a zigbee device and works the same way as any other zigbee device in the universe. You can use official aqara hub, or any other "open source" universal zigbee hubs with it. There is a reason why zigbee exists, it's far superior for iot compared to wifi, provides mesh-networking (wireless "daisy-chaining" of sorts) and allows battery devices like motion, window/door sensors and temperature sensors to work in home automation (..on battery lol).
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artcab
12-29-2023 at 03:31 AM.
12-29-2023 at 03:31 AM.
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my parents house is wired the same way so i ripped out all the wiring and rewired the whole house lol
There's nothing inherently wrong or dangerous about properly wired switch legs, as long as the wiring is in good shape. The original NM-B wire in my ~1963 house is in good shape and includes a ground wire.

Rewiring the entire house in my situation wouldn't really yield any benefit, other than running 3-wire to the single gang switch leg boxes, where the only benefit there would be gaining a neutral wire in those boxes so I could use on/off smart switches that require a neutral wire. Not a good use of my time/money IMO, as these Aqara no-neutral on/offs, combined with Aqara's door/window sensors, give me the automated closet light switching I need for a fraction of the cost/time of a rewire.
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malba2366
12-29-2023 at 07:59 AM.
12-29-2023 at 07:59 AM.
Just spend the extra money for Lutron Caseta switches. Buying hard wired electrical switches from some no name Chinese company is a recipe for disaster. These switches are not UL listed, and multiple posts on Amazon shows a picture where this device was damaged by overheating or fire.

Smart switches that do not require a neutral are harder to engineer such that the current flowing through the circuit has to be minimal. Lutron invented no neutral electronic dimmer switches and they still have the most robust led bulb compatibility.
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12-29-2023 at 09:11 AM.
12-29-2023 at 09:11 AM.
Quote from artcab :
There's nothing inherently wrong or dangerous about properly wired switch legs, as long as the wiring is in good shape. The original NM-B wire in my ~1963 house is in good shape and includes a ground wire.

Rewiring the entire house in my situation wouldn't really yield any benefit, other than running 3-wire to the single gang switch leg boxes, where the only benefit there would be gaining a neutral wire in those boxes so I could use on/off smart switches that require a neutral wire. Not a good use of my time/money IMO, as these Aqara no-neutral on/offs, combined with Aqara's door/window sensors, give me the automated closet light switching I need for a fraction of the cost/time of a rewire.

we were already in the process of changing out all the outlets because they were two prong no ground 1955 cloth like wrapped wiring. we then noticed some of the light wirings and outlet wires would snap off trying to make a simple ear bend at the tip so we felt it would be a better move to just replace it all. was already upgrading to led can lighting in every room as well so it just made sense to us to do it all at that point.
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12-29-2023 at 09:14 AM.
12-29-2023 at 09:14 AM.
Quote from mikekilo :
we were already in the process of changing out all the outlets because they were two prong no ground 1955 cloth like wrapped wiring. we then noticed some of the light wirings and outlet wires would snap off trying to make a simple ear bend at the tip so we felt it would be a better move to just replace it all. was already upgrading to led can lighting in every room as well so it just made sense to us to do it all at that point.
You did a whole home rewire?
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12-29-2023 at 09:18 AM.
12-29-2023 at 09:18 AM.
Quote from mikekilo :
we were already in the process of changing out all the outlets because they were two prong no ground 1955 cloth like wrapped wiring. we then noticed some of the light wirings and outlet wires would snap off trying to make a simple ear bend at the tip so we felt it would be a better move to just replace it all. was already upgrading to led can lighting in every room as well so it just made sense to us to do it all at that point.
Makes sense! That's a lot of work but I'm sure everyone sleeps better knowing the wiring is up to snuff, and good for resale too. I have replaced a lot of wiring in our place over the years, including some wildly dangerous stuff done by a series of previous owners.
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12-29-2023 at 09:45 AM.
12-29-2023 at 09:45 AM.
Quote from malba2366 :
Just spend the extra money for Lutron Caseta switches. Buying hard wired electrical switches from some no name Chinese company is a recipe for disaster. These switches are not UL listed, and multiple posts on Amazon shows a picture where this device was damaged by overheating or fire.

Smart switches that do not require a neutral are harder to engineer such that the current flowing through the circuit has to be minimal. Lutron invented no neutral electronic dimmer switches and they still have the most robust led bulb compatibility.
Calling Aqara a no-name brand lol. They made zigbee smart switches when Lutron didn't know what zigbee is.
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malba2366
12-29-2023 at 10:25 AM.
12-29-2023 at 10:25 AM.
Quote from SlickCemetery8271 :
Calling Aqara a no-name brand lol. They made zigbee smart switches when Lutron didn't know what zigbee is.

Lol. Lutron doesn't use zigbee, they have a very robust proprietary communication system which is very well proven. This junk is designed for low end installs, Lutron hardware is made to stand up to the most demanding installations.

As a bonus Lutron switches are certified for safety and don't have a propensity to start fires unlike this junk product.
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12-29-2023 at 02:51 PM.
12-29-2023 at 02:51 PM.
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You did a whole home rewire?

yeah...wasnt too difficult but a lot of drywall ripped out as well...so trying to sort out redrywalling basically whole house as well
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DJ_SAMMY_D
01-06-2024 at 09:32 AM.
01-06-2024 at 09:32 AM.
I had good luck with this switch.. even replaced switch that had florescent lights on it (although I replaced all the bulbs to led)

No issues … no buzzing ..HomeKit found right away


I say win for those with no neutral in older

Installed 3

1 uses automation with aqara lock,

If unlocked from outside
Then turn on lights

So far I am digging the Aqara ecosystem, but this is my first foray into it, I am sure hubitat hub is king but for now the no neutral is why I chose Aqara
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