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10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished)

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goHardDrive via NewEgg has the 10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished) for $69.99. Shipping is free.

Note: This product was inspected, tested, and refurbished as necessary to be 100% functional according to the Newegg Refreshed standards.

Thanks to Staff Member Izzy138 for posting this deal.

Features:
  • SATA 6.0Gb/s
  • 7200RPM
  • 256MB Cache
  • 3.5" Form Factor

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goHardDrive via NewEgg has the 10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished) for $69.99. Shipping is free.

Note: This product was inspected, tested, and refurbished as necessary to be 100% functional according to the Newegg Refreshed standards.

Thanks to Staff Member Izzy138 for posting this deal.

Features:
  • SATA 6.0Gb/s
  • 7200RPM
  • 256MB Cache
  • 3.5" Form Factor

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    • Please see original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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megablank
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All drives are a gamble, 2 is 1, but at refurb prices you can get 2 for the price of one new one.
LostMountain
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I'm brand agnostic, but Seagate as a brand has far greater rate of failure vs WD.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ba...r-q1-2023/
afrugalfather
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Only $10 more to get a 12tb from serverparts or goharddrive on ebay

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MrShawnMar 09, 2024 08:28 PM
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Quote from afrugalfather :
Price moves up and down, but still $80 at serverparts https://serverpartdeals.com/produ...-s-3-5-hdd ​
An this one comes with a one year warranty which really only makes it $5 more. I would warranty anything I could with a low enough price to make it not a big deal. Now I just need a way to power it up an access it since I don't have any other gear but a laptop an smartphone currently.
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MrShawnMar 09, 2024 09:24 PM
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Quote from afrugalfather :
Price moves up and down, but still $80 at serverparts https://serverpartdeals.com/produ...-s-3-5-hdd ​
Their website charges me shipping an doesn't give me the free shipping option
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Quote from lastwraith :
Seagate from SPD, but still valid for $80
https://slickdeals.net/f/17337069-refurbished-seagate-12tb-internal-hdd-80-free-shipping-at-serverpa...

He's not wrong unless you hate Seagate for some reason. 2TB is worth $10 IMO.
I don't hate Seagate and that's why I've brought 6 Seagate 3-4TB drives in the past. But Seagate hates me and all 6 drives dies within 4 years of purchase. After I turned to WD, I know not every HDD is the same and WD doesn't hate me.
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wlandyMar 09, 2024 09:59 PM
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Quote from ultimatinternet :
I for one love these refurb drives from GOHARDDRIVE on newegg. I bought 14 of them and had health checks all work out and exchanged the one that didn't. Easy peasy. And each drive had only 4yr avg power up time on them with 50ish power cycles. Very happy with that statistic as I know exactly how they were all run. THese old HGST helium drives are what I use now -- relabeled WD GOLD when I buy new but I can't be happier with these as now they match the age of my other "new" drives -- lol. Anyhow, using stablebit software, it's easy to keep them up and duplicating for my needs. again, couldn't be happier.
4yr avg power up time on them with 50ish power cycles? They must be deployed in data centers not end-users' home.
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ti84-calculatorMar 09, 2024 10:08 PM
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Reached out to their Newegg CS team, and they confirmed that this model has a 5 year warranty through them, in for 1!
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CummingsSMMar 10, 2024 12:22 AM
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Quote from wlandy :
4yr avg power up time on them with 50ish power cycles? They must be deployed in data centers not end-users' home.
These are enterprise drives. The "DC" in the name means "data center". I suppose you might find someone weird enough to pay enterprise rates for personal use hard drives, but not in bulk. These drives are rated for 2.5 million hours MTBF (mean time between failures) and 0.35% annualized failure rate when running 24/7. They came from the manufacturer with a 5-year warranty. They were first produced in 2019, so the origin warranty is now expired, which is likely to be the reason that the data center who owned them is replacing/upgrading them. A 5-year upgrade cycle is pretty standard. None of them could have been in service for more than about 40,000 hours, and this is why the "refurbisher" feels comfortable throwing them in a box (without doing any testing on them) and sending them to you. They expect some failures (the vast majority of which will likely be caused by shipping) and will simply send another drive if you get a dead one.

You can find the data sheet for these drives here: https://documents.westerndigital....-hc510.pdf
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Quote from FreshPrinceSumNLips :
If the mtbf be that long they could have offered a longer warranty. Even Hyundai offers a longer warranty on their cars. Smells fishy?
MTBF is a pretty crappy rating. They put a thousand drives in a test environment and run them for a specified number of hours. Take the number of drives that failed in that test and that's your numerator. Multiply the number of hours the test was run by the number of drives tested and that's your denominator. But they're all brand new drives running in pristine conditions, so it's not ACTUALLY representative of how long a drive is going to last. MTBF would fall off quickly if you rated these 5 year-old drives the same way.

It's not meaningless. A 2.5M hour MTBF is a very solid reliability rating. But you can't just assume that means the drive is actually going to last 285 years.
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FreshPrinceSumNLipsMar 10, 2024 12:47 AM
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Quote from CummingsSM :
MTBF is a pretty crappy rating. They put a thousand drives in a test environment and run them for a specified number of hours. Take the number of drives that failed in that test and that's your numerator. Multiply the number of hours the test was run by the number of drives tested and that's your denominator. But they're all brand new drives running in pristine conditions, so it's not ACTUALLY representative of how long a drive is going to last. MTBF would fall off quickly if you rated these 5 year-old drives the same way.

It's not meaningless. A 2.5M hour MTBF is a very solid reliability rating. But you can't just assume that means the drive is actually going to last 285 years.
Thank you for the clarification. Mtbf is an industry benchmark or a wd created marketing term? So buy or not buy and from whom for best warranty?
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CummingsSMMar 10, 2024 12:55 AM
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Quote from FreshPrinceSumNLips :
Thank you for the clarification. Mtbf is an industry benchmark or a wd created marketing term? So buy or not buy and from whom for best warranty?
It's an industry term, but basically created by the manufacturers (thus the reason it's so utterly ridiculous).

I bought a couple of the 12TB versions of this drive a week ago, using two in a mirrored set so I won't care much if one fails. Knowing I have 5 years to get a replacement if it's one of the few that fails is nice, but personally I don't think it matters very much. I'd give that a value of about $2 on these drives.

Paying more for a new drive mostly means you're paying that premium to have a lower probability of having to deal with the consequences of a failure. I don't use spindle drives for anything important, because solid state drives (which do not having moving parts, hence the name) are inherently more reliable. These are cheap bulk storage for me, and not something I will cry over if it fails, or something I can't go a couple weeks without.

If it would be uncomfortable for you to have to replace this drive, including waiting for the replacement to ship and dealing with the hassle of doing the labor, then my advice would be "don't buy". But as long as you can live with that, I find this a very good price for a perfectly acceptable product which will likely outlive it's usefulness.
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$79 ebay refurb with 5yr warranty
$89 12tb ebay refurb with 5yr warranty

I grabbed multiple 12s as I already have a 14

For those starting out/jumping in, I'd recommend 2-10tb and 2-12tb with a synology running 7.0+

Then implement their SHR-2 hybrid raid approach to have 2 drive redundancy and optimize storage
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SungpoozMar 10, 2024 02:26 AM
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Quote from zba :
10 $ more at ebay but with 5 y warranty
Where is this? I'm interested

BTW I'm asking after failing to find the 5 yr warranty one on eBay
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Quote from FreshPrinceSumNLips :
I plan to put them in desktop running Blue Iris for CCTV cams. It wont be the main HDD as I am using a WD Purple but its only 4TB. I want to use the Ultrastar as a backup, where I move the WD Purple content aftet the drive fills. Good idea to get the Ultrastar given my use case? I figure its cheaper than getting another WD Purple just to backup. About how much "mileage" does a drive like the WD Ultrastar have in hours and writes? If I run HD Sentinel on it will it show the drive is basically junk?
I personally bought 4 of these about a year ago (though Amazon) for an Unraid server build, and sent them back almost immediately. One of them was DOA and the other 3 all just sounded terrible when I spun them up. I just didn't feel comfortable with them, so went with some brand new (lower capacity) WD Drives and haven't looked back. I'm a Prime member, so was a pretty easy return to Amazon, but I'm not certain how friendly NewEgg's returns are (I haven't heard the greatest about them). I definitely spent more for less capacity with my final drives, but immediately "felt" better the moment I installed them. This is just my experience, though, and I've already read of others who had experiences completely in the other side of the spectrum as I. Just wanted to provide mine so you could have a few more data points to help you make up your own mind. Hope it helps.
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lastwraithMar 10, 2024 03:47 AM
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Quote from LostMountain :
I'm brand agnostic, but Seagate as a brand has far greater rate of failure vs WD.

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ba...r-q1-2023/
Hence why I gave the Seagate caveat. I prefer Toshiba or WD personally, but plenty of people are all-in on Exos drives around here.

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Quote from wlandy :
4yr avg power up time on them with 50ish power cycles? They must be deployed in data centers not end-users' home.
They're enterprise drives so..... isn't that what we should be expecting?
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