101-Film MGM Anniversary Collection (Digital 4K/HD; Action/Drama/Comedy & More)

I'm trying to avoid buying things on VUDU because someone said that VUDU has a lifetime limit of 40 GC use per account. If that's true I'm in big trouble because I used many $25 GC bought at big discount from Newegg. Also the future free 4K upgrade from iTunes cannot be ignored. I'm not sure why people are choosing VUDU over iTunes and losing out on 11 4K titles. Every one of my $100 Apple GC had $10-15 discount.

Dollar General doing 10% Vadu gift cards this week. Still looking for an iTunes card deal.

You guys forgot another reason to skip digital over discs. Some of the networks are going back to remove controversial content due to the PC climate that we are currently in.

An example of this is censoring the suicide scene in the last episode of the 1st season of "13 Reasons Why". That is a powerful scene that needs to stay in but it is being sanitized due to its suggestive content to teenagers who might watch it.

If I ever find the DVDs I would happily buy this before the scene gets removed.

THANK YOU! Bought the iTunes/Apple TV version as any of the HD versions that get released as 4k will be upgraded. If you buy the VUDU version all your movies will be inside the MGM bundle (they don't populate the library as individual movies). $1 movies with only 7 previous duplicates. True to OP's word NONE of the movies show up in Movies Anywhere. Maybe one day.

I'm right there with you on the physical space argument, that's why I paid several thousands to "purchase" digital versions of many things I physically owned. Decided Apple was the safest library and after some learning glitches assembled a usable library of about 1,000 movies now. Really convenient to have access to movies wherever I am on a theoretical trip away from home, and easy access without storing and digging through tons of discs.

Then I observed digital movies I paid for and "own" suddenly become unavailable, or withdrawn then replaced with a "different purchase" "Directors Cuts," or "50th Anniversary Versions" and other scams to steal away the thing I "purchased." These studios tell us they are "selling" us a dumb movie that we will "own." But after they have our money, all of a sudden they act as though the digital movie was a charitable gift they gave us and is revocable whenever some cokehead in the C suites needs a few extra bumps.

Apple is even advising people to download the digital movies (which they won't allow in 4K, nor onto an Apple TV) because of this problem. So instead of buying and storing discs, I'm buying and storing and maintaining massive hard drives for movies I "own."

Either I own it, in which case Studios agree to keep it available regardless of backend licensing changes or modified versions- OR they owe a refund for anything we "purchased" and they took. After all- the studios "wouldn't steal a car," right? If a business sells to someone else, that new business acquires the obligations of the business they got, not just the assets.

Do the movies show up in iTunes as individual movies rather than a bundle?

Thanks in advance.

When you buy the rights to a movie or show from a third party like Apple (or Vudu), you're buying the right to possess the content digitally and the right to download it from Apple as long as Apple has access to it. If Apple and a studio fall out with one another, you'll lose online digital access when apple loses digital access. You have the right to download copies of your digital content and to keep those downloads indefinitely regardless of Apple's existence or their relationship with a given studio, which is exactly what Apple recommends that you do. Sure, that's a hassle, but no more of a hassle than maintaining stacks of Blu Rays and DVDs. The only really problem is that we're not allowed to download 4k copies of content, but the reason for that is because the studios themselves don't want 4k copies of their movies to be distributed except in Bluray form. They think that'll make piracy just that much worse. Now if you would rather own your movies and shows in a physical format, good for you, that's likely more durable than keeping them on a server indefinitely anyways, but there's no reason to clutter up threads about digital content sales with complaints about things that are in the basic legal disclaimer for every digital service.

I'm trying to avoid buying things on VUDU because someone said that VUDU has a lifetime limit of 40 GC use per account. If that's true I'm in big trouble because I used many $25 GC bought at big discount from Newegg. Also the future free 4K upgrade from iTunes cannot be ignored. I'm not sure why people are choosing VUDU over iTunes and losing out on 11 4K titles. Every one of my $100 Apple GC had $10-15 discount.

You're buying a right to watch it without any restriction: you can watch it as many times as you want and any time you want. But removing it will violate that right. I'm no lawyer but I'm sure a case can be made. The solution would be to give customers the refund but I think that's why Flixter and UV decided to merge their libraries with VUDU to avoid the class action lawsuits.

Also, the studios and digital platform made a mutually beneficial business agreement. Some people buy the physical media to get the digital copy and vice versa. I can name quite a few TV series which the digital isn't for sale from VUDU or iTunes, only available from digital code included in the physical media. Studios have to reimburse VUDU or iTunes whenever someone redeem the digital code included in the physical media. That's why Warner Bros decided to hard expire the MA codes because that's pure profit in accounting. The other studios that decided not to expire the digital code has to set aside money in case the digital code gets redeemed. I was told that VUDU and iTunes pay studios some money to get their product included in the physical media, and they get reimbursed a lot more when someone redeems the code. In a way, they are banking on getting some revenue from physical media sale.

There is this guy on Reddit who purchased 14,000 movies on VUDU. I don't think he has time to watch everything. If VUDU decides to disappear, I'm sure the guy would want to sue to get his money back.

Again, I don't think VUDU or iTunes can simply disappear without transferring people's paid libraries to another platform.


Yeah, but to go as far as accepting the legacy Flixter and UltraViolet digital codes, that had nothing to do with providing stability or maintaining customers' libaries.

Apple is even advising people to download the digital movies (which they won't allow in 4K, nor onto an Apple TV) because of this problem. So instead of buying and storing discs, I'm buying and storing and maintaining massive hard drives for movies I "own."

Either I own it, in which case Studios agree to keep it available regardless of backend licensing changes or modified versions- OR they owe a refund for anything we "purchased" and they took. After all- the studios "wouldn't steal a car," right? If a business sells to someone else, that new business acquires the obligations of the business they got, not just the assets.

You're not buying it without restriction. The T&C you agreed to when you signed up your account and continued using your account under say they can remove content at any time.

Whoa! That's a new one to me. I've seen the "download" option where it often says "Download HD (3 GB)" and I assumed (1) I have to own an Apple device to do that and (2) if Apple ever lost the rights to the movie I assumed my "purchased" downloaded copy would stop working. Can you really download movies or TV series onto a PC using iTunes and watch them on your PC even if Apple removes that content from iTunes? Before I waste time downloading these things, I'd like to know more details.

Also, 3-4 GB is awfully tiny for your average movie. Your average physical Bluray movie is usually 18 GB on the low end and some as high as 40 GB. 3-4 GB is watchable but the compression will be quite visible on certain scenes at such a low bitrate.

Unfortunately your good logic doesn't work because (as mentioned earlier) the T&C give them the right to remove content at any time for any reason without compensation. You will not find any streaming fine print without that.

Yes. Perhaps if every digital deal thread had the warning in the OP that "the T&C of all digital content providers says they can remove any content at any time for any reason without compensation", then we wouldn't have to keep reminding people in digital deal threads. Until then we'll keep popping up like weeds.

I'm trying to avoid buying things on VUDU because someone said that VUDU has a lifetime limit of 40 GC use per account. If that's true I'm in big trouble because I used many $25 GC bought at big discount from Newegg. Also the future free 4K upgrade from iTunes cannot be ignored. I'm not sure why people are choosing VUDU over iTunes and losing out on 11 4K titles. Every one of my $100 Apple GC had $10-15 discount.

I wouldn't say we're like weeds, I'd call us people who want this abhorrent behavior to stop all together. And the only way to do this is to make people as informed as possible

Nonsense. I've used way more than 40. It stinks you can only keep 3 in your account at a time though.