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This was in the news. I haven't contacted the dealer yet but it looks like $2210 pay down and $125 a month. My simple math says about $185 a month.
This excludes any dealer discounts. But may exclude some other fees. I have never leased so no clue.
Great as a third car. Note that this model didn't get very good reviews - hence it being priced accordingly.
https://www.toyota.com/midwest/de...icles=bz4x
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Toyota built this as a compliance car to fill a gap in the lineup and has zero focus on it or care. If anything, it is the 'look we built an EV, it sucks!'. The first production run had WHEELS FALLING OFF. They recalled every single one! The car is slow and just utterly wild in it's idiocy.
We test drove the badge engineered Subaru version - the Solterra. Same car, different logo.
The list of infuriating choices piled fast. Want to move the driver's seat? BEEPS. CONSTANT BEEPS.
Want to back up? It beeps on the inside and inside only. Who are they warning?! Me? I"M DRIVING THE CAR.
The performance is just bad. It has a quick little bit of torque and then falls on it's face.
Did I mention the range sucks and that the car does not support fast charging so you literally cannot roadtrip it without hour-long-stops?
All in all, it just felt like Toyota was completely uninterested in building it as it is lower margin than gas/hybrid.
Then you have the ioniq 5. Hyundai's focus is straight up on on beating the Tesla Model Y. They are serious and in it. The car is shockingly better looking in person than the BZ4X. The interior feels like tomorrow and has innovative ideas, way more range, way better software, etc.
Korea is currently having the same moment that Japan had in the 90s, Hyundai should be taken seriously, esp in the EV space.
TX offer is $4k down $219 a month plus TTL
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"my buddy was on a trip with his gasoline pick-up truck and it just stopped in the middle of the highway with no gas stations nearby."
This is called user error .... and has nothing to do with whatever the vehicle is.
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With the current model hybrid and inflation let's say you buy a new rav4 hybrid msrp is at 30k -50 k, you get a great deal of a 38,000k top model rav 4 2023 with no mileage + taxes (3000 -4000) = 41k
This is assuming you pay all in cash ...if you finance it would be ridiculous with the current interest rates.
At 41k / 15 years = 230ish a month NOT COUNTING DEPRECIATION AND MAINTENANCE assuming that you know how to fix cars and be able to get parts for cheap.
I am paying about 100 dollars more per month to test drive a EV CAR FOR next 36 months
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Mileage is low, but if you can charge at home it's fine. Most people aren't driving 100 miles per day. I had an EV that was supposed to go 87 miles on a charge and managed 2 50 mile R/T drives to work and back on a charge. I could add more miles by charging overnight in my driveway on 110v. If you live in the city and don't need to drive long distances it's perfectly fine.
It's Toyota half attempt to have a EV on the market just to meet regulatory laws. Toyota's President himself said they are more focused on Hybrid technology and see that as their bread and butter.
Please just search this car on YouTube and you will see how horrible it is. And yes, nearly every EV car is better than this including Hyundai, Kia, Chevy, and even Tesla.
For local driving these features aren't a problem:
- Slow charging - No problem. I can charge every night in my garage.
- Low range - More than plenty for daily tasks.
- Scant Features - I'm sure it has everything I'd care about.
- Very slow - 7 seconds from 0 to 60 isn't bad at that price.
At that price, those aren't deal breakers. But based on reviews, here's why I'd personally avoid it.- Many people didn't like their fit and position in the driver seat. Be sure to pay attention to that when you test drive.
- Obnoxious wind noise at normal speeds
- Chassis rattling at normal speeds.
It's estimated that Toyota will be a decent competitor in 2026. Until then, it's just compliance cars.even though i hate kia's... this is the one that needed a recall last year for "wheels falling off"
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We test drove the badge engineered Subaru version - the Solterra. Same car, different logo.
The list of infuriating choices piled fast. Want to move the driver's seat? BEEPS. CONSTANT BEEPS.
Want to back up? It beeps on the inside and inside only. Who are they warning?! Me? I"M DRIVING THE CAR.
The performance is just bad. It has a quick little bit of torque and then falls on it's face.
Did I mention the range sucks and that the car does not support fast charging so you literally cannot roadtrip it without hour-long-stops?
All in all, it just felt like Toyota was completely uninterested in building it as it is lower margin than gas/hybrid.
I like toyota's, I have 3 in my family.
But the beeping inside is fully unnecessary, its like toyota is saying to its customer,
2011 Camry doesn't beep, 2023 HiHy doesn't beep. Why would this car and a 2015 Prius beep on the inside when backing up?
Madness.