The Polyend Tracker is back at $359. You can get it for this price at Amazon too, but you get a little bag of candy from Sweetwater which sweetens the deal. Sorry.
Type:Sampler with Sequencer and Wavetable Synthesizer
I'd say this is not accurate at all. There are some great people at Sweetwater. Daniel Fisher alone is one of the most important people in the synth community in my opinion due to his very thoughtful demos. Amazon does nothing for customer education. Amazon doesn't weigh and photograph individual instruments.
I've been a Sweetwater customer for years. I've got a single phone call, not directly related to an order, from my sales rep in this time. He knows I don't engage, so he leaves me alone. I'm very happy with everything, every time. If you can buy from a smaller music shop, do it, but saying Sweetwater is the same as Amazon isn't true.
I bought one of these from The Midium (great small retailer) for the same price last time they were all on sale for $360. I don't remember if they send candy but they did send a handwritten thank you.
This is a fun device but I haven't put enough time in yet to really be productive with it. I've also seen people selling these locally for less recently, and the Tracker Mini for a similar price. The Dirtywave M8 is under $500 used these days, and is preferred by many people (check out Red Means Recording on YouTube).
My comment from the last post:
A tracker is like making music in a spreadsheet filled with hexadecimal codes, which is pretty obscure at first glance.
However, plenty of kids started making music on tracker programs in the 90s, so there have been beginners who found success with a similar interface. It probably depends on how your brain works. One advantage of the interface is that a lot of information is visible on the main page, once you understand what you're looking at.
I'd recommend watching this video to get a sense of how it works but remember that Loopop has years of music production experience, and you won't be able to make stuff that sounds nearly as good without lots of practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQufJBVvAtY
(Watch up to 5:04, then skip to watch 42:50 until the end, then watch the middle if you're still interested)
You can also download a demo for Renoise, which has a similar interface although it's more powerful and probably a bit harder to learn. https://www.renoise.com/
If you're interested in a groovebox (an all-in-one hardware device that can make beats and melodies, i.e. a full track) like this, I'd consider the Novation Circuit Tracks for a similar price. The Roland MC-101 might also be good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq3yveNXnQs
I found it very easy to use. I made a song without ever watching a video or reading the manual. It was one of the most intuitive devices I've ever used considering the complexity.
It's really cool to create a piece of music, and then throw it in perform mode where you can trigger reverb, delay, bitcrush, and a bunch of other effects on a per track basis and just chill. I've got tons of instruments to mess with when I want to play, but the more passive style of this is really chill to use in bed getting ready to sleep.
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Boy, you're a regular business major, eh? Good catch!
Yes, it's the salespeople who call. Not the shipping dept or the CEO.
They won't call if you don't want them too. My rep emailed.
I haven't heard from him in a couple years.
At least I haven't had a call from Sweetwater who calls me and asks what it will take for me to check-out on items I had in my cart, like Guitar Center has done recently. I did a double take, like, you mean on my computer, cart? Sweetwater are great
At least I haven't had a call from Sweetwater who calls me and asks what it will take for me to check-out on items I had in my cart, like Guitar Center has done recently. I did a double take, like, you mean on my computer, cart? Sweetwater are great
Man...bad enough getting those in email. Can't imagine actual phone calls.
So this seems like a hardware implementation of the old Modplug tracker software from the 90's. I believe the software still lives on as openMPT. A website full of free user submitted music for this style of music creation is the modarchive.
I bought one of these from The Midium (great small retailer) for the same price last time they were all on sale for $360. I don't remember if they send candy but they did send a handwritten thank you.
This is a fun device but I haven't put enough time in yet to really be productive with it. I've also seen people selling these locally for less recently, and the Tracker Mini for a similar price. The Dirtywave M8 is under $500 used these days, and is preferred by many people (check out Red Means Recording on YouTube).
My comment from the last post:
A tracker is like making music in a spreadsheet filled with hexadecimal codes, which is pretty obscure at first glance.
However, plenty of kids started making music on tracker programs in the 90s, so there have been beginners who found success with a similar interface. It probably depends on how your brain works. One advantage of the interface is that a lot of information is visible on the main page, once you understand what you're looking at.
I'd recommend watching this video to get a sense of how it works but remember that Loopop has years of music production experience, and you won't be able to make stuff that sounds nearly as good without lots of practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQufJBVvAtY
(Watch up to 5:04, then skip to watch 42:50 until the end, then watch the middle if you're still interested)
You can also download a demo for Renoise, which has a similar interface although it's more powerful and probably a bit harder to learn. https://www.renoise.com/
If you're interested in a groovebox (an all-in-one hardware device that can make beats and melodies, i.e. a full track) like this, I'd consider the Novation Circuit Tracks for a similar price. The Roland MC-101 might also be good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq3yveNXnQs
Damn dirtywave m8 looks like a nightmare to use because of the size but I don't have any real world experience. Does anyone here use one and can chime in?
I've been making music for about 15 years. I was pretty skeptical at first as I've only ever been a DAW person and I had never really used a tracker before, but this thing is super easy to use to make music on. However, if you have no musical experience, then this is probably not a great place to start.
Spec sheet wise: The OG Polyend Tracker model is pretty weak, but where it shines is the user interface. The UI is very intuitive and well done and the model is still receiving updates as recently as a couple of months ago.
I also bought mine last year during the sale and I would recommend it at this price. However, they are coming out with a new version of this tracker relatively soon-ish (I think?) with updated features and a new hardware set, but I'm assuming it will be the old MSRP or higher. Based on that, I actually expect to see the used prices for the OG Polyend Tracker to drop into the $200s, which imo is a great price.
I'd say this is not accurate at all. There are some great people at Sweetwater. Daniel Fisher alone is one of the most important people in the synth community in my opinion due to his very thoughtful demos. Amazon does nothing for customer education. Amazon doesn't weigh and photograph individual instruments.
I've been a Sweetwater customer for years. I've got a single phone call, not directly related to an order, from my sales rep in this time. He knows I don't engage, so he leaves me alone. I'm very happy with everything, every time. If you can buy from a smaller music shop, do it, but saying Sweetwater is the same as Amazon isn't true.
I'm not normally someone who likes talking to people on the phone at all, much less folks from companies I'm buying stuff from. But music gear is its own niche, and having an expert who can help has made a huge difference for me. I've asked questions, gotten advice, and because I know my sales engineer's background, I know he has a lot more experience and knowledge than I could even get looking around online at reviews and stuff. I've gotten a ton of good advice and solid recommendations, and he's never steered me wrong. It is the *only* company I genuinely don't mind a call from. Jonathan Appleton's been great to work with.
Damn dirtywave m8 looks like a nightmare to use because of the size but I don't have any real world experience. Does anyone here use one and can chime in?
I don't own a Dirtywave M8, but I have made a headless unit for a fraction of the price of a M8. I really like this device and feel it punches well above it's weight. However, it's a niche approach to making music that's not for everyone. My suggestion would be to try out LSDj or make a headless M8 unit to see if the workflow is a good fit for you. Happy jamming!
It's basically a 90s computer with a single application ( plays a few games too). I honestly regret purchasing this, I couldn't return mine and I'm just not productive with it. Your millage will vary
Can I take the stereo processors and split them out to double the amount of mono processors so that I can have dynamics processing on every input?
Are you sure you're looking at the right product? The Tracker has a single stereo line input, you can apply master delay/reverb to the line in signal. All sampling is mono (the Tracker Mini has stereo sampling), and it has 8 mono tracks.
Damn dirtywave m8 looks like a nightmare to use because of the size but I don't have any real world experience. Does anyone here use one and can chime in?
Look at YouTube Reviews. People love using the M8. I have my eye on it now
I don't own a Dirtywave M8, but I have made a headless unit for a fraction of the price of a M8. I really like this device and feel it punches well above it's weight. However, it's a niche approach to making music that's not for everyone. My suggestion would be to try out LSDj or make a headless M8 unit to see if the workflow is a good fit for you. Happy jamming!
Wow! This is awesome! Thank you! Do you have your build posted online? Which tutorial did you follow?
Pulled the trigger on this. I used to make electronic music years ago for fun. I got my son a PO-33 for his birthday, and now I got the bug again. I know renoise would probably make more sense but I don't want another reason to be on the laptop.
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I've been a Sweetwater customer for years. I've got a single phone call, not directly related to an order, from my sales rep in this time. He knows I don't engage, so he leaves me alone. I'm very happy with everything, every time. If you can buy from a smaller music shop, do it, but saying Sweetwater is the same as Amazon isn't true.
This is a fun device but I haven't put enough time in yet to really be productive with it. I've also seen people selling these locally for less recently, and the Tracker Mini for a similar price. The Dirtywave M8 is under $500 used these days, and is preferred by many people (check out Red Means Recording on YouTube).
My comment from the last post:
A tracker is like making music in a spreadsheet filled with hexadecimal codes, which is pretty obscure at first glance.
However, plenty of kids started making music on tracker programs in the 90s, so there have been beginners who found success with a similar interface. It probably depends on how your brain works. One advantage of the interface is that a lot of information is visible on the main page, once you understand what you're looking at.
I'd recommend watching this video to get a sense of how it works but remember that Loopop has years of music production experience, and you won't be able to make stuff that sounds nearly as good without lots of practice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQufJBV
(Watch up to 5:04, then skip to watch 42:50 until the end, then watch the middle if you're still interested)
Another good tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXu5254
You can also download a demo for Renoise, which has a similar interface although it's more powerful and probably a bit harder to learn. https://www.renoise.com/
If you're interested in a groovebox (an all-in-one hardware device that can make beats and melodies, i.e. a full track) like this, I'd consider the Novation Circuit Tracks for a similar price. The Roland MC-101 might also be good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq3yveN
It's really cool to create a piece of music, and then throw it in perform mode where you can trigger reverb, delay, bitcrush, and a bunch of other effects on a per track basis and just chill. I've got tons of instruments to mess with when I want to play, but the more passive style of this is really chill to use in bed getting ready to sleep.
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Yes, it's the salespeople who call. Not the shipping dept or the CEO.
They won't call if you don't want them too. My rep emailed.
I haven't heard from him in a couple years.
Man...bad enough getting those in email. Can't imagine actual phone calls.
such a bad take. maybe guitar center, but not sweet sweetwater.
This is a fun device but I haven't put enough time in yet to really be productive with it. I've also seen people selling these locally for less recently, and the Tracker Mini for a similar price. The Dirtywave M8 is under $500 used these days, and is preferred by many people (check out Red Means Recording on YouTube).
My comment from the last post:
A tracker is like making music in a spreadsheet filled with hexadecimal codes, which is pretty obscure at first glance.
However, plenty of kids started making music on tracker programs in the 90s, so there have been beginners who found success with a similar interface. It probably depends on how your brain works. One advantage of the interface is that a lot of information is visible on the main page, once you understand what you're looking at.
I'd recommend watching this video to get a sense of how it works but remember that Loopop has years of music production experience, and you won't be able to make stuff that sounds nearly as good without lots of practice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQufJBV
(Watch up to 5:04, then skip to watch 42:50 until the end, then watch the middle if you're still interested)
Another good tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXu5254
You can also download a demo for Renoise, which has a similar interface although it's more powerful and probably a bit harder to learn. https://www.renoise.com/
If you're interested in a groovebox (an all-in-one hardware device that can make beats and melodies, i.e. a full track) like this, I'd consider the Novation Circuit Tracks for a similar price. The Roland MC-101 might also be good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq3yveN
Damn dirtywave m8 looks like a nightmare to use because of the size but I don't have any real world experience. Does anyone here use one and can chime in?
Spec sheet wise: The OG Polyend Tracker model is pretty weak, but where it shines is the user interface. The UI is very intuitive and well done and the model is still receiving updates as recently as a couple of months ago.
I also bought mine last year during the sale and I would recommend it at this price. However, they are coming out with a new version of this tracker relatively soon-ish (I think?) with updated features and a new hardware set, but I'm assuming it will be the old MSRP or higher. Based on that, I actually expect to see the used prices for the OG Polyend Tracker to drop into the $200s, which imo is a great price.
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I've been a Sweetwater customer for years. I've got a single phone call, not directly related to an order, from my sales rep in this time. He knows I don't engage, so he leaves me alone. I'm very happy with everything, every time. If you can buy from a smaller music shop, do it, but saying Sweetwater is the same as Amazon isn't true.
It's basically a 90s computer with a single application ( plays a few games too). I honestly regret purchasing this, I couldn't return mine and I'm just not productive with it. Your millage will vary
Look at YouTube Reviews. People love using the M8. I have my eye on it now
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