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I'm so pissed at DBF anyone care to give insight as to a man's thinking?

2,257 1,117 December 16, 2009 at 07:18 AM in Chat
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In March,before we were officially dating,I found naked pictures of this girl on his phone. I got incredibly pissed and confronted him about them. He said we weren't officially dating although we were exclusive so I couldn't get mad at him bc I didn't know what I wanted to do. Fast forward until now, he's been still talking to her and texting her,I've known it all along and I've expressed to him how much I don't like him talking to her etc. He always brings back the part that we weren't "dating" when she sent the pics,and since we've been dating she hasn't sent him any racy pics. I've been trying to be patient and understanding about it but I'm really insecure about this whole situation and I've told him how I feel,but it still does no good. Am I acting irrationally? Do I have a reason to be upset about him still talking to her etc? She's on his facebook and they chit chat alot,but yet he asked me to remove my ex because he didn't like it,and I did because I didn't want him to feel threatened or insecure about it. It gets to the point that when I see her posting in response to him that I clinch my fists because it makes me so mad.
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Jengo
12-16-2009 at 08:16 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:16 AM.
Quote from Sonofabeech :
This is completely irrelevant. You are "officially dating" (whatever the difference is between being an exclusive couple) NOW. Tell him if that part of his past is more important than his future with you, then you fully understand - as you then tell him he can have his past with her as his future as well, because you are out of there. (or kick him out if it's your place)


BTW - Is she hawt? I'll need pics to confirm.

mmkthx
I don't think she is hot,or pretty for that matter. I'd love to link her fb page but I think that is probably wrong to do.
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Pinstripes
12-16-2009 at 08:17 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:17 AM.
Quote from Jengo :
He tells me that they haven't seen each other in over a year and that they only talk on FB.
Do you know if she lives locally? They text too right? And you asked him if they had sex and his response is that he has not seen her lately?
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saint.
12-16-2009 at 08:19 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:19 AM.
Quote from Drio :
If you actually want the relationship to have a future, I wouldn't ultimatum. I'd just explain to him how you feel about it. Revisit the fact that you broke contact with your ex for his comfort, and it would be nice if he did the same. If he doesn't catch the hint.... I'd consider moving on.
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Frogstar
12-16-2009 at 08:21 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:21 AM.
Do you trust him or not?
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Jengo
12-16-2009 at 08:21 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:21 AM.
She lives locally. He has said they don't talk other than FB. And yeah that's what he says. I sent him a text saying I know you haven't seen her lately but have you ever done anything with her,even if it's just kiss? Waiting on the response from that.
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Fallacy
12-16-2009 at 08:23 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:23 AM.
Crying2
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Iaaaiws
12-16-2009 at 08:23 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:23 AM.
Quote from Jengo :
He explains it as we weren't "officially dating" when the pictures were sent,he didn't request them,she just sent them.
She probably just sent the pics to show him how high her self-esteem is.
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12-16-2009 at 08:26 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:26 AM.
Quote from Frogstar :
Do you trust him or not?
Yes I do,I know that everyone has the capability to cheat or whatever so I trust him,or anyone else as much as I can and still know that something could possibly happen. If that makes sense.

Quote from Iaaaiws :
She probably just sent the pics to show him how high her self-esteem is.
ugh it sucks to see her face and then have a mental picture of her naked spread eagle picture being replayed in my brain vomit
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HeyLookItsMe
12-16-2009 at 08:29 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:29 AM.
Quote from Jengo :
Background info:
In March,before we were officially dating,I found naked pictures of this girl on his phone. I got incredibly pissed and confronted him about them. He said we weren't officially dating although we were exclusive so I couldn't get mad at him bc I didn't know what I wanted to do. Fast forward until now, he's been still talking to her and texting her,I've known it all along and I've expressed to him how much I don't like him talking to her etc. He always brings back the part that we weren't "dating" when she sent the pics,and since we've been dating she hasn't sent him any racy pics. I've been trying to be patient and understanding about it but I'm really insecure about this whole situation and I've told him how I feel,but it still does no good. Am I acting irrationally? Do I have a reason to be upset about him still talking to her etc? She's on his facebook and they chit chat alot,but yet he asked me to remove my ex because he didn't like it,and I did because I didn't want him to feel threatened or insecure about it. It gets to the point that when I see her posting in response to him that I clinch my fists because it makes me so mad.
The bottom line is simply that you are upset because you dont trust him. Mind you this DOESNT mean that you are at fault, or that your are wrong for feeling the way you do, it simply means that there is some reason you dont trust him. This might be because:
  • he lies
  • you havent been together enough to have that ammount of trust in him
  • you have been hurt in the past and are overly guarded and dont trust anyone
  • you have some idea in your head that he is supose to think/behave in XYZ way and he isnt doing what you think he should so you assume something is wrong
and I am sure there are countless other reasons why you two may not trust eachother. What you need to do is simply stop and ask yourself is he worth it? Is he worth the frustration, the anger, the headaches and every other bad feeling you have felt, do you think he is special enough to you to be worth working through those things. If you decide no hes not really worth it, hes more of a fling, then walk away from it.

if you decide that he is worth it, that the good times you have with him outweigh the bad and that the way he makes you feel is special, then focus on the issue of trust with him and try to figure out foryourself why you dont trust him and what both of you can do to build the trust. Remember you cant tell him what to do. The only thing YOU CAN DO is say "look this makes me unhappy because of XYZ. I need these things to be happy and if im not happy then i dont want to be in this relationship. No threats, just explanations of what you need and why you need it.
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12-16-2009 at 08:30 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:30 AM.
He said that we will talk about it when he gets home. I'm the type of person that I don't voice a problem unless it really bothers me. I think about things,decide where the underlying issue is coming from. If it's something that's my own problem I deal with it myself,if it's something I can let go because not all relationships are perfect all the time but as long as the good outweighs the bad I can still be in one. I mean just personal pet peeves,like he doesn't do something so then I've got to go back and do it,instead of nagging him or whatever I just remind myself that he did such and such without being asked to or whatever. If its a problem that I can't let go,or deal with through my own issues then I talk about it. This has been an issue a few times and maybe he's starting to realize that this isn't going away and something needs to be done. One of us needs to budge and stop being stubborn because the relationship is suffering. I would budge if I could see his POV and it be valid in my mind,but it's not.
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J3ff
12-16-2009 at 08:34 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:34 AM.
This is why some women are crazy lol.

If some girl was doing to me, what he was doing to you, she'd be gone, don't care how old I am
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HeyLookItsMe
12-16-2009 at 08:36 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:36 AM.
Quote from J3ff :
This is why some women are crazy lol.

If some girl was doing to me, what he was doing to you, she'd be gone, don't care how old I am
youre 12
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12-16-2009 at 08:37 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:37 AM.
Quote from HeyLookItsMe :
The bottom line is simply that you are upset because you dont trust him. Mind you this DOESNT mean that you are at fault, or that your are wrong for feeling the way you do, it simply means that there is some reason you dont trust him. This might be because:
  • he lies
  • you havent been together enough to have that ammount of trust in him
  • you have been hurt in the past and are overly guarded and dont trust anyone
  • you have some idea in your head that he is supose to think/behave in XYZ way and he isnt doing what you think he should so you assume something is wrong
and I am sure there are countless other reasons why you two may not trust eachother. What you need to do is simply stop and ask yourself is he worth it? Is he worth the frustration, the anger, the headaches and every other bad feeling you have felt, do you think he is special enough to you to be worth working through those things. If you decide no hes not really worth it, hes more of a fling, then walk away from it.

if you decide that he is worth it, that the good times you have with him outweigh the bad and that the way he makes you feel is special, then focus on the issue of trust with him and try to figure out foryourself why you dont trust him and what both of you can do to build the trust. Remember you cant tell him what to do. The only thing YOU CAN DO is say "look this makes me unhappy because of XYZ. I need these things to be happy and if im not happy then i dont want to be in this relationship. No threats, just explanations of what you need and why you need it.
Thank you so much for posting this. This is exactly how I feel. I trust as much as I can while still knowing that the person you love can cheat on you,leave you or whatever. So I guess I do have trust issues. I don't want to be naive anymore and be blindsided like I was before.

He is worth it,other than this issue we've been doing really well and trying to be mature adults in the relationship. This is just a hiccup that we are going through and I want to work it out. Unfortunately we haven't been able to see eye to eye yet. I just wonder who's feelings are justified and who should backdown. If it's my feelings then I'll backdown. If I can't backdown,well guess the relationship will be over due to my own stubborniss,but hey that's my issue.
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12-16-2009 at 08:43 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:43 AM.
Quote from J3ff :
This is why some women are crazy lol.

If some girl was doing to me, what he was doing to you, she'd be gone, don't care how old I am
And that hypothetical girl would probably say you were overly jealous and controlling.
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12-16-2009 at 08:46 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:46 AM.
Quote from Pinstripes :
I am not buying it... Give him an ultimatum. It obviously worries you and if it is nothing then it will not be a big deal for him to do but if he refuses then it would make me think he gives her more respect then you.
No ultimatiums are bad. They are always bad.

If you are in a relationship and feel you need to give an ultimatium, the relationship is already dead. Do you really want your bf or gf to do something only because you had to threaten to break up? That's not healthy. It's not love.

Here's what I do. I don't worry about any of this stuff. My gf can talk, flirt, whatever.
I don't get jealous or insecure. What's the point of that? It is very unattractive for both men and women.

Let them talk to whoever they want. If Jengo wants to re-add that ex back to facebook, she should. There's no reason to be insecure about any of this stuff.
Let the other person be themselves. Let them talk to whoever they want to. Don't try to control people. If they stray, you will find out, one way or another.. You might not find out specifically who they slept with, but you will know the relationship is dying.

That's what I do.. just relax.. don't be insecure.. "If you love someone, set them free."
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