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Pioneer 24,000 BTU 2-Ton 18 SEER2 Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump System Expired

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Home Depot has Pioneer 24,000 BTU 2-Ton 18 SEER2 Ductless Mini Split Air Conditioner Heat Pump Variable Speed DC Inverter+ System (208/230V, WYS024GMFI20RL-16) on sale for $1062. Select free ship to store where available.

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About this Item:
  • Cooling capacity (range): 24,000 (6,704 to 25,300) BTU/h, cooling efficiency: 18 SEER2/9.0 EER2
  • Heating capacity (range): 24,000 (6,900 to 28,100) BTU/h, heating efficiency: 8.6 HSPF2/3.03 C.O.P.
  • Voltage: 208/230 Volt, 60hz, 1ph
  • Complete system set including: indoor (fan coil) section, outdoor (condenser) section, wireless remote controller with optional Wi-Fi, 16 ft. L line set with other installation accessories
  • R410A pre-charged outdoor unit, accommodating line lengths up to 25 ft. long
  • Certified by: UL, AHRI, DOE for safety, performance and efficiency
  • Built with the latest technologies using pulse width modulation driven DC inverter compressor and variable speed DC inverter fan motors for high performance and low power consumption

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I have a 36k Pioneer it is very good with high cfm I ordered this one today , seems to be good deal

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Pione.../322261171
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Any word on a dehumidifier mode? Also does this have two stage cooling or is that on higher end models? Is this missing anything else critical?

Edit: silly me it says it right in the description

Included wireless remote digital controller allows the users easily select among the 4 operating modes; cooling, heating, dehumidification and ventilation

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05-19-2024 at 11:49 PM.
05-19-2024 at 11:49 PM.
I remember seeing these at HD for $500-700 a few years back.
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05-20-2024 at 12:01 AM.
05-20-2024 at 12:01 AM.
Are HVAC professionals general okay with us buying our own mini-split off the Internet and hiring them install it?

This is an honest naive question. When I've hired HVAC guys before, they provided the furnace and AC units from their end.
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05-20-2024 at 01:48 AM.
05-20-2024 at 01:48 AM.
Quote from polly.wog :
Are HVAC professionals general okay with us buying our own mini-split off the Internet and hiring them install it?

This is an honest naive question. When I've hired HVAC guys before, they provided the furnace and AC units from their end.

Any decent HVAC guys will be happy to install this if you purchase it yourself. Some companies will not do it simply because they warranty everything themselves and have to use their own equipment to provide the warranty. A smaller number of snobby HVAC guys will complain about these units and refuse to work on them just because they know the customer is saving a lot of money compared to high end Mitsubishi or Fujitsu. I wouldn't want to give the snobs business anyway. These cheap Chinese mini splits are generally of excellent quality for the money.
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Esente
05-20-2024 at 06:45 AM.
05-20-2024 at 06:45 AM.
Quote from UpbeatKnob539 :
Any decent HVAC guys will be happy to install this if you purchase it yourself. Some companies will not do it simply because they warranty everything themselves and have to use their own equipment to provide the warranty. A smaller number of snobby HVAC guys will complain about these units and refuse to work on them just because they know the customer is saving a lot of money compared to high end Mitsubishi or Fujitsu. I wouldn't want to give the snobs business anyway. These cheap Chinese mini splits are generally of excellent quality for the money.

I asked a couple HVAC guys to install my mini split. They came, took a quick look, and gave me a number in the ballpark of $2000+ to install one.

I ended up using another for about only $500. They did the job in 3 hours (needed extra time to go to Home Depot to get a longer cable since mine is upstairs).

$2400 for 2-3 hours of 2-person job is way better than my job.
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05-20-2024 at 07:07 AM.
05-20-2024 at 07:07 AM.
Quote from Esente :
I asked a couple HVAC guys to install my mini split. They came, took a quick look, and gave me a number in the ballpark of $2000+ to install one.

I ended up using another for about only $500. They did the job in 3 hours (needed extra time to go to Home Depot to get a longer cable since mine is upstairs).

$2400 for 2-3 hours of 2-person job is way better than my job.

Some of the install prices are wild. I've DIY installed 3 of these, every time it got a lot faster and easier.

There are some things to learn if you've never installed one before and for one unit it may be worth hiring a professional. If you have a few units to do, DIY'ing it is well worth considering. Save a lot of money and you'll know how to fix these things too.
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05-20-2024 at 07:28 AM.
05-20-2024 at 07:28 AM.
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But the comparison is 18 SEER2 vs 23.5 SEER2, so the difference is bigger. And even if it were only $40/year, if this lasts 10 years, that's $400.

Also, the higher-efficiency unit produces heat with less electricity, too. So if you use it for heat, you save there, too.

Plus, it's nice to just be more efficient. Pull less power, waste less. Make less pollution (somewhere.) Even if you have your own solar and batteries, it's less load on your batteries.
I am not sure about heating , last winter I used them it was fine around 40 degree , when it was colder like 25-30 it wasn't heating enough to be used as heater
Quote from polly.wog :
Are HVAC professionals general okay with us buying our own mini-split off the Internet and hiring them install it?

This is an honest naive question. When I've hired HVAC guys before, they provided the furnace and AC units from their end.
I asked few AC company they will install it but they were asking $2000 for installation!
I hired someone from facebook he did it with new breaker and wiring for $500
I could do it myself but my 36k unit was heavy and not worth it to do it myself , it took them 4 hours to install 2 units
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05-20-2024 at 10:05 AM.
05-20-2024 at 10:05 AM.
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So are these easy to install without a professional? I was trying to find a good youtube video. I have a basement without air/heat and I think I need one of these in each room. I was quoted $10k to install mini splits in 5 rooms. It looks like there are different mini split version...some require a professional to do the refrigerant? Also does this mean I will have 5 unit things sitting outside the house. Maybe their unit is better and does 5 inside and 1 outside? I don't know. It's confusing lol.
I've installed 4 pioneer units, 2 LG, and Fujitsu. The Fujitsu was the easiest by far. But a lot of it comes down to where you're installing and whether you need to add charge. Example: accessible lineset run, using the provided lineset, good weather, and you get it all done in one day? relatively easy. On the other hand if you have poor access, need longer linesets and extra charge, the complexity goes up very quickly. One of the Pioneers I had to run the lineset above a doorway, under the floor in the back of the kitchen, around a corner in the laundry room and then out the wall. That was a PITA that required two people and a fair bit of drywall repair and then painting. It rained like a MF at the end of it and it got into the lineset, it was too much moisture for the vacuum pump so I ended up having to borrow dry nitrogen. Then it needed 2oz extra refrigerant, you need a manifold and really another hose with a shut off on the tank to avoid leaking refrigerant into the air.

I vacuum with a 2HP Harbor Freight pump. Yellow jacket manifold (not really necessary unless you need to add refrigerant, then you need additional hoses and a shut off valve if you want to do it right). You want a core removal tool (Appion is the best). Vacuum gauge, I have a BluVac+ thing that works great.

FYI the Fujitsu unit I installed was like 31 SEER. Way more efficient than the Pioneers, but it cost twice as much. But I put the cheaper/lower efficiency units in places that don't need as much heat/AC. If you're upgrading a 20 year old system, even 18 SEER is probably going to be a lot better. I figured the Fujitsu would pay for itself in 3 years, in other locations it would have exceeded the life span of the unit.

The Pioneer units are all over the place with specs. Check how much it is precharged for... they always include a 16 foot lineset, which isn't enough, but usually charged for up to 25 ft. Then there's how much height difference you can have between the indoor unit and outdoor. One of them was something pretty pathetic, like 16 feet. Well, I had to relocate that outdoor unit because the indoor unit was on the second floor (1st floor ~2 feet above grade + 9 foot ceiling + 1 foot between floors + 8 feet up a wall of the 9 foot 2nd floor, you can see how that unit is really only appropriate for 1st floors).

FYI bulk copper linesets and a flaring tool are way cheaper than the premade linesets. Hard to find the insulation though. SupplyHouse.com FTW.
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05-20-2024 at 10:13 AM.
05-20-2024 at 10:13 AM.
Quote from polly.wog :
Are HVAC professionals general okay with us buying our own mini-split off the Internet and hiring them install it?

This is an honest naive question. When I've hired HVAC guys before, they provided the furnace and AC units from their end.
They can make more money if they provide the equipment, or if they oversize it. So it depends. Do your homework on what you actually need.

Try out CoolCalc etc, but you can also ball park it using BTU/sq ft. Reasonable house, 25 BTU/sq ft maybe. I just built an addition last year and we have 10 BTU/sq ft. I did a down to the studs remodel of an old leaky 2x4 framed house and settled on 18 BTU/sq ft (did as much air sealing as I could), mild remodel of our prior 2002 house came out to 25 BTU/sq ft.
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