Guys, get this while they're still in stock! Denon aren't normally discounted this much and this is one of their newer ones!
HIGH-PERFORMANCE AV RECEIVER - Enjoy 8K video and 3D audio via Denon AVR-X6800H AV Receiver. Get enveloped in sound with Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, IMAX Enhanced & Auro 3D, along with Dolby Surround, DTS Neural:X & Auro-Matic upmixer to optimize legacy content
ADVANCED 8K HDMI VIDEO SECTION - With the capability of up to 13.4 channel processing, this AVR supports 8K HDMI, and advanced video formats like Dolby Vision, HDR, HLG, HDR10+, and Dynamic HDR pass-through & 8K upscaling on all 7 inputs and 2/3 outputs
MULTI-DIMENSIONAL AUDIO - In addition to Dolby Atmos, DTS:X, and Auro 3D, the HDMI receiver also supports Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Technology that creates virtual height effects without the height channels for a truly immersive experience
NEXT-GEN GAMING - Enjoy smooth, lag-free gaming with spectacular imaging, reduced frame tearing with 8K/60Hz pass-through, Variable Refresh Rate (VRR), Quick Frame Transport (QFT), and Auto Low Latency Mode (ALLM) supported by this Denon receiver
AWARD-WINNING GUIDE - An on-screen quick setup guide walks you through clear instructions to connect your TV, and Audyssey MultEQ XT32 & SubEQ HT accurately calibrates all speakers in your home setup and tunes the AVR for an optimal listening experience
WIRELESS STREAMING - Enjoy the same song in all rooms or a different one in each room with built-in HEOS multi-room streaming. Stream music from popular services via Wi-Fi / Bluetooth, and get ultra hi-res audio with proprietary AL32 processing technology
VERSATILE CONNECTION OPTIONS - 7 HDMI In / 3 Out, each input selection covers various audio sources and devices (Phono, USB, & more). HDMI Out with eARC simplifies TV audio, and Pre-outs for 2-channel amp, and four subwoofers ensure a flexible audio setup
YOUR HOME AT YOUR FINGERTIPS - The home theater receiver features Domotz Pro & OvrC remote system monitoring and management technology programs, allowing custom integrators to remotely monitor and troubleshoot connected devices, and control them
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I recently helped set this up and there were no such issues.
Again Audyssey's new directional sub integration is a significant step up.
Upon saying that most in here will believe the same as Dirac's DLBC, no benefit to it.
You do have to have the proper setup to take advantage though.
I recently helped set this up and there were no such issues.
Again Audyssey's new directional sub integration is a significant step up.
Upon saying that most in here will believe the same as Dirac's DLBC, no benefit to it.
You do have to have the proper setup to take advantage though.
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Looks like a one day fire sale. Congrats to all who got them!
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Looks like a one day fire sale. Congrats to all who got them!
13 channels with the options this offers, as you pointed nothing compares.
The next closest competitor to the 6800 is its Marantz twin, the Cinema 30. I would not pay $1k difference for the privilege!
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IMO, to compare the two sonically you would have to buy the full Dirac suite which sets you back another $800
To my ears..Dirac is must have over Audyssey and the X6800, in that regard, should be no more than $2K
IMO, to compare the two sonically you would have to buy the full Dirac suite which sets you back another $800
To my ears..Dirac is must have over Audyssey and the X6800, in that regard, should be no more than $2K
Are you claiming "your ears" can sonically hear a "stronger" difference?
Are you claiming your ears can sonically hear differences between DACs(good or bad)?
To get the "full Dirac suite" the RZ70 includes is only $350(full bandwidth Dirac Live) NOT $800!
You have to pay $500 for multi sub DLBC for "full Dirac suite" on the RZ70, as with this.
Having compared Dirac vs Audyssey(3800/Cinema 50) side by side extensively.
To my ears there is no way an $800 sonic difference between the two!
IMO I give the edge to Dirac and mainly because of DLBC.
Now with A1 script & directional it's definitely not a must have especially for $800 imo.
BTW the 6800 gives you 13 channels(vs 11), 4 independent sub-outs(vs only 2), front wides & Auro 3D(not an option on the RZ70)….. So yes the 6800 should cost significantly more, should not be a surprise!
But then I for one would only consider this because I needed 13 channels.
If I needed 11 channels, there are much less expensive options sonically vs the RZ70 imo.
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IMO, to compare the two sonically you would have to buy the full Dirac suite which sets you back another $800
To my ears..Dirac is must have over Audyssey and the X6800, in that regard, should be no more than $2K
The Denon A1H/Marantz AV10 has 10 x ESS Sabre ES9018K2M DACs rated at -120 dB THD+N and +127 dB DNR.
The Onkyo RZ70 has 2 x ESS Sabre ES9026PRO DAC rated at -110 dB THD+N and +124 dB DNR (just like the Pioneer 805).
The A1H/AV10 has SOA DACs whereas the RZ70 clearly doesn't!
Also, both the 6800 and the RZ70 are rated at 140W into 2CH (sipping from the same pool)! The 6800 has the slight edge since that rating is at 0.05% THD+N whereas the RZ70 is at 0.08%.
RZ70 DAC
https://www.avmagazine.
AV10 DAC
https://www.hifiklubben
A1H DAC (see attached pic which has been in the wild for a while)
The Denon A1H/Marantz AV10 has 10 x ESS Sabre ES9018K2M DACs rated at -120 dB THD+N and +127 dB DNR.
The Onkyo RZ70 has 2 x ESS Sabre ES9026PRO DAC rated at -110 dB THD+N and +124 dB DNR (just like the Pioneer 805).
The A1H/AV10 has SOA DACs whereas the RZ70 clearly doesn't!
Also, both the 6800 and the RZ70 are rated at 140W into 2CH (sipping from the same pool)! The 6800 has the slight edge since that rating is at 0.05% THD+N whereas the RZ70 is at 0.08%.
RZ70 DAC
https://www.avmagazine.
AV10 DAC
https://www.hifiklubben
A1H DAC (see attached pic which has been in the wild for a while)
I am using bench test from a third party
Manufacturers can say what ever they want and play all kinds of games
Audioholics disagrees with you about the DAC's
https://www.audioholics
Wonder who I should trust?...LOL
Are you claiming "your ears" can sonically hear a "stronger" difference?
Are you claiming your ears can sonically hear differences between DACs(good or bad)?
To get the "full Dirac suite" the RZ70 includes is only $350(full bandwidth Dirac Live) NOT $800!
You have to pay $500 for multi sub DLBC for "full Dirac suite" on the RZ70, as with this.
Having compared Dirac vs Audyssey(3800/Cinema 50) side by side extensively.
To my ears there is no way an $800 sonic difference between the two!
IMO I give the edge to Dirac and mainly because of DLBC.
Now with A1 script & directional it's definitely not a must have especially for $800 imo.
BTW the 6800 gives you 13 channels(vs 11), 4 independent sub-outs(vs only 2), front wides & Auro 3D(not an option on the RZ70)….. So yes the 6800 should cost significantly more, should not be a surprise!
But then I for one would only consider this because I needed 13 channels.
If I needed 11 channels, there are much less expensive options sonically vs the RZ70 imo.
https://www.zkelectroni
No...A more powerful amp/power supply is stronger
I dont need to make any claims..its just a fact
You need add the calibration mic to that price for the X6800 along with the DLC
So...Hundreds more money
Having personally owned Audyssey in multiple units( still with the Marantz 7015) along with personally owned multiple Dirac equipped units I have owned, over a long period of time..IMO..Dirac is an absolute must have over Audyssey
Again..I only need 9 channels
I dont think 13 adds anything in a home environment. Not anyone I have ever seen anyway
I personally I am not the type to matrix two channel music into umpteen channels and use room correction
Its pure direct for me with 2 channel audio
As for power, I would also need to buy a separate amp to meet at least the ratings of the Onkyo RZ70 if I were going with a single box solution in my main area
I am using bench test from a third party
Manufacturers can say what ever they want and play all kinds of games
Audioholics disagrees with you about the DAC's
https://www.audioholics
Wonder who I should trust?...LOL
https://www.audioholics
Perhaps you obtained your information from the same people that you " claimed" that said Onkyo and Dirac were finger pointing?
I am using bench test from a third party
Manufacturers can say what ever they want and play all kinds of games
Audioholics disagrees with you about the DAC's
https://www.audioholics
Wonder who I should trust?...LOL
If so you have raved about the RZ50 often and how it's better than the competition.
BUT third party testing disagrees with you, in the conclusion they said "The amplifier has serious power limiting "feature" and even without it, it is NOT competitive with other products out there"!
Imo sure seems like third party testing doesn't really tell you much about what"your ears" tells you.
If so you have raved about the RZ50 often and how it's better than the competition.
BUT third party testing disagrees with you, in the conclusion they said "The amplifier has serious power limiting "feature" and even without it, it is NOT competitive with other products out there"!
Imo sure seems like third party testing doesn't really tell you much about what"your ears" tells you.
I have said the RZ50 is quite a bargain for the price and for a smaller listening area
It sounds like you didnt understand my statement...but I just restated my thoughts on it
Please remember that I have actually owned that piece for quite some time now
What a particular unit can drive has nothing to do with my ears
Not sure how you are relating the two?
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https://www.audioholics.com/av-re...rx-8.4-avr [audioholics.com]
Perhaps you obtained your information from the same people that you " claimed" that said Onkyo and Dirac were finger pointing?
Did you read the article? It says:
"As I mentioned earlier, the DRX-8.4 also uses audiophile-quality ESS Sabre digital-to-analog converters, specifically a pair of precision 768 kHz/32-bit ESS ES9026PRO 32-bit Hyperstream II DAC chips."
That 9026PRO chip is the same one as in the RZ70 because the RZ70, Pioneer 805, and Integra DRX8.4 are all clones! Notice how it's correctly spelled here but still a typo in the first Audioholics link. Also, there's no mention that they have the same DACs as the A1H/AV10. If you're confused by "ESS Sabre" , that covers a multitude of DACs and I broke down the specific models already!
The pic in my prior post is an internal presentation from Denon employees in French. I know you don't want to be wrong but you are!
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