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AMD Ryzen 5 6-Core / 12-Thread Desktop AM5 Processor: 8600G $182, 8500G

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Model: AMD - Ryzen 5 8600G 6-core - 12-thread – 4.3 GHz (5.0 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM5 Unlocked Desktop Processor - Silver

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Aug 16, 2024 06:39 PM
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Luigis3rdcousinAug 16, 2024 06:39 PM
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Quote from Adelley :
Lol I'm still trying to get AMDs whole naming scheme. . Could have sworn I read somewhere the 8xxx were laptop cpus but here we are lol
The G at the end always means desktop apu. So if you see 8000 series, the letter at the end determines whether it's desktop, mobile or mobile workstation
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AdelleyAug 16, 2024 07:05 PM
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Quote from Luigis3rdcousin :
The G at the end always means desktop apu. So if you see 8000 series, the letter at the end determines whether it's desktop, mobile or mobile workstation
I see, basically they're for mini itx builds I guess since they're dedicated to integrated graphics that you usually don't use a separate

So the even numbers are a focus on integrated graphics like 6xxx and 8xxxx where as the more mainstream cpus like 7xxx and 9xxx are for full desktops even though they have integrated graphics also.


That means the 10xxx will be the next apus.

Think I get it lol
Aug 16, 2024 07:09 PM
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msam11Aug 16, 2024 07:09 PM
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Shows original price $179 not $230. Only 20$ savings
Aug 16, 2024 07:27 PM
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TnycAug 16, 2024 07:27 PM
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Do I need this much iGPU power for an office PC with occasion photo/video editing? Thinking of waiting for Arrow Lake with its new iGPU which is still less powerful than the 8700g. But more horse power on the Arrow Lake?
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kpb321Aug 16, 2024 08:01 PM
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Quote from Adelley :
I see, basically they're for mini itx builds I guess since they're dedicated to integrated graphics that you usually don't use a separate

So the even numbers are a focus on integrated graphics like 6xxx and 8xxxx where as the more mainstream cpus like 7xxx and 9xxx are for full desktops even though they have integrated graphics also.


That means the 10xxx will be the next apus.

Think I get it lol
Not really. The G suffix always indicates an APU which often starts off as a Laptop CPU first before being used as a desktop APU. The 6000 and 8000 series CPUs happen to only have APUs in them but it's entirely possible the 9000 series will end up with both desktop CPUs and Laptop based APUs. The 8000 series all APUs because it took AMD a while to release them as desktop APUs. The Laptop APUs that would become the next generation desktop APUs were released slightly before the desktop 9000 series CPUs. It's also entirely possible AMD won't release those chips as Desktop APUs until next year and will decide to name the 10000g chips. The official stance is the first digit, soon to be 10 digits, is when the CPU was released. Not what Zen core it is based on or anything else and delayed releases or warmed over rereleases get a new leading digit to make them not seem old on release.

Going back to older versions there are both 5000 and 5000g series processor with things like the 5600g and 5600gt being based on the Laptop APU chips and the 5600 or 5600x being desktop based. To make things even more confusing things like the 5500 are basically a 5600g with the graphics disabled so share all the limitations and features of the 5600g not a 5600 like you'd expect.
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Quote from kpb321 :
Not really. The G suffix always indicates an APU which often starts off as a Laptop CPU first before being used as a desktop APU. The 6000 and 8000 series CPUs happen to only have APUs in them but it's entirely possible the 9000 series will end up with both desktop CPUs and Laptop based APUs. The 8000 series all APUs because it took AMD a while to release them as desktop APUs. The Laptop APUs that would become the next generation desktop APUs were released slightly before the desktop 9000 series CPUs. It's also entirely possible AMD won't release those chips as Desktop APUs until next year and will decide to name the 10000g chips. The official stance is the first digit, soon to be 10 digits, is when the CPU was released. Not what Zen core it is based on or anything else and delayed releases or warmed over rereleases get a new leading digit to make them not seem old on release.

Going back to older versions there are both 5000 and 5000g series processor with things like the 5600g and 5600gt being based on the Laptop APU chips and the 5600 or 5600x being desktop based. To make things even more confusing things like the 5500 are basically a 5600g with the graphics disabled so share all the limitations and features of the 5600g not a 5600 like you'd expect.
There's nothing confusing about AMD naming conventions. Take the 1600AF, for example...oh, wait...
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MatthewM6825Aug 16, 2024 10:56 PM
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Quote from roninido :
There's nothing confusing about AMD naming conventions. Take the 1600AF, for example...oh, wait...
I get your point, but the 1600AF is just a bad example to use. The 1600af was a late life cycle r5 1600 free upgrade to zen+ and the af was just a serial number difference that the community used to identify the chip, not a newly marketed cpu. It was a just a rebadged r5 2600 that didn't quite hit the binning requirements, so it got sold as a 1600. Source: Me, I've got one
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kpb321Aug 16, 2024 11:16 PM
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Quote from MatthewM6825 :
I get your point, but the 1600AF is just a bad example to use. The 1600af was a late life cycle r5 1600 free upgrade to zen+ and the af was just a serial number difference that the community used to identify the chip, not a newly marketed cpu. It was a just a rebadged r5 2600 that didn't quite hit the binning requirements, so it got sold as a 1600. Source: Me, I've got one
Yeah the 1600AF was an odd rename but it was mostly in the customers favor so it's not a bad thing.

The 7000 series laptop CPUs are particularly bad IMO.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2...d-and-new/
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Ryzen 7045 series ("Dragon Range"): For high-end gaming and workstation laptops, meant to be paired with a dedicated GPU. Essentially Ryzen 7000 desktop processors repackaged for laptops, like Intel's HX series.
Ryzen 7040 series ("Phoenix"): The only all-new chip in the lineup. A Zen 4 CPU combined with an RDNA 3 integrated GPU and built on a 4 nm process, this is the flagship for premium thin-and-light laptops without dedicated GPUs.
Ryzen 7035 series ("Rembrandt-R"): Ryzen 6000 with a new name.
Ryzen 7030 series ("Barcelo-R"): Ryzen 5000 with a new name. Barcelo was technically launched in 2022, but for most intents and purposes it was identical to 2021's "Cezanne" processors. These are the only CPUs in the lineup to include an integrated GPU based on the aging Vega architecture and to support DDR4 and LPDDR4 instead of DDR5 and LPDDR5.
Ryzen 7020 series ("Mendocino"): Already announced and launched, these use the old Zen 2 CPU architecture but otherwise are purpose-built from modern parts on a modern manufacturing process specifically for cheap laptops.
And that was before the Phoenix-2 laptop APUs came out, at least some of which ended up branded as the 8500g APUs in this deal.
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sabinAug 16, 2024 11:35 PM
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I still would like to see the price on these lower. You can still pair a 12100F with an RX6600 for less than the cost of the 8700G and get way better FPS performance. Do a 12400F instead and you get nearly the exact same cost.

Obviously more cores with the 8700G, and you can upgrade to other AM5 parts in the future, but it just doesn't feel like an amazing value at the moment.
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schlackAug 17, 2024 12:46 AM
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Quote from Adelley :
I see, basically they're for mini itx builds I guess since they're dedicated to integrated graphics that you usually don't use a separate

So the even numbers are a focus on integrated graphics like 6xxx and 8xxxx where as the more mainstream cpus like 7xxx and 9xxx are for full desktops even though they have integrated graphics also.


That means the 10xxx will be the next apus.

Think I get it lol
Not only limited to mini builds. Good for a budget gaming PC. It runs most modern games at 1080p without issue, just not always with settings maxed out. About 75% the GPU performance of current gen Xbox (Series S).
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ecc5091Aug 17, 2024 11:48 AM
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What is a good MB for 8600G (under $200)?

I just built 25 desktops for a computer lab using this CPU and the motherboard in this Amazon link: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CJTB2QV2

Downside is only 2 RAM slots and you need to update the BIOS before it will post, but it's pretty quick and easy to do.
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This is basically a steam deck, so if you want modest 720P gaming and esports 1080P it might be okay. Otherwise, spend a little extra and get the 8700G, you'll at least get up to the 1080P mark.
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reqUser098Aug 17, 2024 04:39 PM
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me still using 5600g and still don't feel the need for upgrade. LOL
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slugbugAug 17, 2024 06:11 PM
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Is this worth about 60% more than the Ryzen 5500GT?

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Quote from MatthewM6825 :
I get your point, but the 1600AF is just a bad example to use. The 1600af was a late life cycle r5 1600 free upgrade to zen+ and the af was just a serial number difference that the community used to identify the chip, not a newly marketed cpu. It was a just a rebadged r5 2600 that didn't quite hit the binning requirements, so it got sold as a 1600. Source: Me, I've got one
Yup, I have one also, paired with an RX580, repurposed for my kids. Was just giving an example.

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