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expiredDr.W posted Oct 17, 2024 03:12 PM

ASUS ZenBook 14 (Open-Boxes): 14" FHD+ OLED Touch, Intel Ultra 7 155H, 16GB LPDDR5, 1TB SSD $553.99

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  • Excellent - $618.99
  • Good - $585.99
  • Fair - $553.99

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  • 14" FHD+ (1920x1200, WUXGA+) 16:10, 60Hz, 400-nits, 500-nits HDR, 100% DCI-P3, Pen Support, Glossy, Touch, OLED Display
  • Core Ultra 7-155H (6P+8E+2LP)/22T CPU (4.8 GHz Turbo, 24MB Cache)
  • Intel Arc Graphics (8 X Cores)
  • 16GB LPDDR5X Memory
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen 4 NVMe SSD
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard, 1.4mm Key-travel, Precision touchpad
  • 1080p Webcam with IR function to support Windows Hello, With privacy shutter
  • Wi-Fi6E 2x2 + Bt 5.3
  • 4 Cell 75 WHr Battery
  • 2.82 lbs. / 1.28 kg
  • Ports:
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 2x USB-C Thunderbolt™ 4 supports display / power delivery
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 TMDS
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack

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Open-Boxes (YMMV) available:
  • Excellent - $618.99
  • Good - $585.99
  • Fair - $553.99

SPECS:


  • 14" FHD+ (1920x1200, WUXGA+) 16:10, 60Hz, 400-nits, 500-nits HDR, 100% DCI-P3, Pen Support, Glossy, Touch, OLED Display
  • Core Ultra 7-155H (6P+8E+2LP)/22T CPU (4.8 GHz Turbo, 24MB Cache)
  • Intel Arc Graphics (8 X Cores)
  • 16GB LPDDR5X Memory
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe Gen 4 NVMe SSD
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard, 1.4mm Key-travel, Precision touchpad
  • 1080p Webcam with IR function to support Windows Hello, With privacy shutter
  • Wi-Fi6E 2x2 + Bt 5.3
  • 4 Cell 75 WHr Battery
  • 2.82 lbs. / 1.28 kg
  • Ports:
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 2x USB-C Thunderbolt™ 4 supports display / power delivery
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 TMDS
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack

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Model: ASUS - Zenbook 14 OLED 14” WUXGA Touch Laptop, Intel Core Ultra 7 - 16GB Memory - 1TB SSD - Jasper Gray - Jasper Gray

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Oct 17, 2024 03:16 PM
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EricGRIT09Oct 17, 2024 03:16 PM
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Just need a higher resolution OLED and I'm pulling the trigger! Decent deal, though, with 16GB.
Oct 17, 2024 06:12 PM
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TenderLocket2839Oct 17, 2024 06:12 PM
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Solid deal, however, this would be a better buy with a worse display, ie, not an FHD+ OLED. The subpixel arrangement causes fringing around text in Windows. This is noticeable to anyone at lower pixel densities. If you're on Linux it may be fixable in the near future.
Oct 18, 2024 03:07 PM
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JK1982Oct 18, 2024 03:07 PM
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Quote from TenderLocket2839 :
Solid deal, however, this would be a better buy with a worse display, ie, not an FHD+ OLED. The subpixel arrangement causes fringing around text in Windows. This is noticeable to anyone at lower pixel densities. If you're on Linux it may be fixable in the near future.
14" screen make it as bad as like a 16"
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Oct 19, 2024 07:36 AM
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poopiOct 19, 2024 07:36 AM
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Quote from EricGRIT09 :
Just need a higher resolution OLED and I'm pulling the trigger! Decent deal, though, with 16GB.
1200P OLED is ideal for 14". Hate the trend of putting non-standard displays (2.5K, 2.8K) into laptops. Older Windows software and games don't scale well, if at all. Things end up looking blurry, jagged, tiny, etc. They don't play well with external monitors either. Most movies and shows end up looking interpolated too, since most are FullHD or 4K.

2K for 14" and below. 4K for 16" and above.
Last edited by poopi October 19, 2024 at 12:39 AM.
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Oct 19, 2024 07:42 AM
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superslickzOct 19, 2024 07:42 AM
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Quote from poopi :
1200P OLED is ideal for 14". Hate the trend of putting non-standard displays (2.5K, 2.8K) into laptops. Older Windows software and games don't scale well, if at all. Things end up looking blurry, jagged, tiny, etc. They don't play well with external monitors either. Most movies and shows end up looking interpolated too, since most are FullHD or 4K.

2K for 14" and below. 4K for 16" and above.
Sorry but you are wrong. Have you actually looked at this laptop or just theorizing? I have seen both the oled 1200p and oled 2.8k version of this laptop. It's a huge improvement on text sharpness with the 2.8k screen. I would not get any oled screen that is 1200p or less.
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Oct 19, 2024 02:51 PM
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poopiOct 19, 2024 02:51 PM
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Quote from superslickz :
Sorry but you are wrong. Have you actually looked at this laptop or just theorizing? I have seen both the oled 1200p and oled 2.8k version of this laptop. It's a huge improvement on text sharpness with the 2.8k screen. I would not get any oled screen that is 1200p or less.
There is no way you are being honest when you say, "Huge improvement" and aren't exaggerating. No, I haven't seen this specific laptop with 1200p or 2.8k. What is so special about this one that makes 1200p so unusable on it? I just gave three reasons that make 2.8k very annoying to use. Two of them are bugs, but M$ haven't fixed them in decades despite them being well known, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Oct 19, 2024 03:02 PM
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superslickzOct 19, 2024 03:02 PM
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Quote from poopi :
There is no way you are being honest when you say, "Huge improvement" and aren't exaggerating. No, I haven't seen this specific laptop with 1200p or 2.8k. What is so special about this one that makes 1200p so unusable on it? I just gave three reasons that make 2.8k very annoying to use. Two of them are bugs, but M$ haven't fixed them in decades despite them being well known, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
One word. Oled. Well more specifically, touchscreen oled. I have NEVER been a pixel snob, and I am not with regular non oled screen is a different story. Google it, there's a science to it, I just don't have it memorized. Then go look at it in real life.

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Oct 19, 2024 03:22 PM
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Deal_AddictionOct 19, 2024 03:22 PM
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I have this open box item. Bought two of them . One for $620 and other one for $550. One for $620 has 100% battery capacity left. $550 one had closer to 85% capacity. and ironically, $620 was a fair condition and $550 was good. So do your testing while you are there.
I will return the cheaper one even though I did battery tests on both and they both look amazing at 1200p and run for almost 10 hours at 4k content on Youtube. Its jsut that in a longer run, laptop with more battery capacity wins.
If you get this laptop. Turn it on there and check battery report using cmd.
powercfg /batteryreport
and before you do that, you need to make an account on the laptop. Currently, it only allows you you to online account but while you are the select language screen. Shift + F10 will bring you cmd and you can write this:
OOBE \BYPASSNRO
You will get the option of " I don't have internet" when you select wifi. Click on that so you can create local without using Microsoft account and your credentials.
Hope this helps someone.
Last edited by Deal_Addiction October 19, 2024 at 08:31 AM.
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Oct 19, 2024 07:13 PM
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TenderLocket2839Oct 19, 2024 07:13 PM
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Quote from poopi :
There is no way you are being honest when you say, "Huge improvement" and aren't exaggerating. No, I haven't seen this specific laptop with 1200p or 2.8k. What is so special about this one that makes 1200p so unusable on it? I just gave three reasons that make 2.8k very annoying to use. Two of them are bugs, but M$ haven't fixed them in decades despite them being well known, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
An OLED display (typically WOLED or QD-OLED) uses a different subpixel arrangement to a traditional LED-backlit LCD used on most modern laptops. Theoretically this should not be an issue for most content, and indeed isn't, but text is actually remarkably difficult to anti-alias, due to the relatively comparable pixel pitch of a lower resolution display, and the non-integral (in most cases) edge of a character. So you get fringing, which at a pixel level is actually aliasing. Subpixel anti-aliasing mitigates, and indeed eliminates this problem entirely in most cases, but OLED displays do not have a current implementation that works well, at least on Windows. This makes an enormous difference in text clarity.
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Oct 20, 2024 12:50 PM
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Quote from TenderLocket2839 :
An OLED display (typically WOLED or QD-OLED) uses a different subpixel arrangement to a traditional LED-backlit LCD used on most modern laptops. Theoretically this should not be an issue for most content, and indeed isn't, but text is actually remarkably difficult to anti-alias, due to the relatively comparable pixel pitch of a lower resolution display, and the non-integral (in most cases) edge of a character. So you get fringing, which at a pixel level is actually aliasing. Subpixel anti-aliasing mitigates, and indeed eliminates this problem entirely in most cases, but OLED displays do not have a current implementation that works well, at least on Windows. This makes an enormous difference in text clarity.
I've yet to see an OLED screen where I look at it and say "wow...the text clarity looks bad". NOT ONCE. As a matter of fact, the ones I've actually owned (a few ASUS, HP, Lenovo) are the best looking displays I've seen in my 40 years of working with computers. I have, though, seen some terrible IPS panels with terrible shadowing on text that I could not get rid of, even using the old Windows Clear Type utility.
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Oct 20, 2024 12:56 PM
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Oct 20, 2024 12:56 PM
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Quote from Deal_Addiction :
I have this open box item. Bought two of them . One for $620 and other one for $550. One for $620 has 100% battery capacity left. $550 one had closer to 85% capacity. and ironically, $620 was a fair condition and $550 was good. So do your testing while you are there.
I will return the cheaper one even though I did battery tests on both and they both look amazing at 1200p and run for almost 10 hours at 4k content on Youtube. Its jsut that in a longer run, laptop with more battery capacity wins.
If you get this laptop. Turn it on there and check battery report using cmd.
powercfg /batteryreport
and before you do that, you need to make an account on the laptop. Currently, it only allows you you to online account but while you are the select language screen. Shift + F10 will bring you cmd and you can write this:
OOBE \BYPASSNRO
You will get the option of " I don't have internet" when you select wifi. Click on that so you can create local without using Microsoft account and your credentials.
Hope this helps someone.
A great utility for doing a quick check on a used laptop is HWINFO. With this, you can see battery health, total charge cycles, total power on hours (how much has the laptop been used), the health of the SSD (total amount read and written), and other useful information. Highly recommended.
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TenderLocket2839Oct 21, 2024 01:23 PM
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Quote from Hat-Trick :
I've yet to see an OLED screen where I look at it and say "wow...the text clarity looks bad". NOT ONCE. As a matter of fact, the ones I've actually owned (a few ASUS, HP, Lenovo) are the best looking displays I've seen in my 40 years of working with computers. I have, though, seen some terrible IPS panels with terrible shadowing on text that I could not get rid of, even using the old Windows Clear Type utility.
Most manufacturers are aware of this limitation, and thus OLED displays on most displays are traditionally very high pixel density (>220 ppi). It's quite rare to find a 1080p panel on anything other than a phone or small tablet, but this happens to be the case here. It's noticeable, in this case, and looks terrible. If you peruse through your catalog of OLED devices, find out which ones are 1080p or less on 14" or higher.
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Oct 21, 2024 03:27 PM
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Oct 21, 2024 03:27 PM
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Quote from TenderLocket2839 :
Most manufacturers are aware of this limitation, and thus OLED displays on most displays are traditionally very high pixel density (>220 ppi). It's quite rare to find a 1080p panel on anything other than a phone or small tablet, but this happens to be the case here. It's noticeable, in this case, and looks terrible. If you peruse through your catalog of OLED devices, find out which ones are 1080p or less on 14" or higher.
I took your challenge and fired up an Asus Q410 (OLED 1200p 60Hz) and I'm not sure what I'm looking for but text looks sharp and clear. I used the Magnifier on my iPhone 16 to get an "up close" look and can see color fringing on the right and left of the black text lines. Looked at the same thing on a 27" 1440P 165Hz IPS monitor and it looks worse than the OLED. But using just my eyeballs, the color fringing is absent and the text appears sharp.

Since I don't typically view my screen through extreme magnification, if the issue does exist, I don't see it and it becomes a moot point.

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