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Leno returned to 11:30pm time slot
January 7, 2010 at
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NBC Shakeup -- Jay Leno Comes Out on Top [tmz.com]
No words on what will happen to Conan and Fallon... whether they both will get pushed back one hour of if one of them will be fired.
I prefer Leno at 11:30 than 10:00.
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We've learned Jay's 10:00 PM show will go on hiatus February 1. After the Olympics, Jay will take back his 11:30 PM time slot. What has not been decided -- whether Jay's show will be a half hour, followed by Conan, or whether Jay's show will be an hour and NBC says sayonara to Mr. O'Brien.We're told Jay and Conan have both been told of the changes. As for Jay, interestingly, he'll get what he always wanted -- his 11:30 PM time slot. |
I prefer Leno at 11:30 than 10:00.
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I "provided" your so called proof literally mins after i called you out on that crucial memory being the best thing since sliced bread.
you still haven't really offered any reason why your statement about leno failing a second time is true, when he was #1 because of what you claim are "humor-free morons" that watch his show, nor why the sports analogy on the contract is false.
That is why i said don't bother listening to you since all you do is strawman.
oh well anyway, seems this is the last week of conan on the show.
i can say this has gotten me to actually tune into his show again after i just stopped watching late night shows and instead watched USA reruns lol.
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NBC can survive without Conan, but Leno for now is their breadwinner.
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If you read what I posted in #229. Leno stated twice that he wanted to walk away, after Conan took over and after NBC told him 10 pm show would be canceled. Both time NBC told Leno, No.
How can NBC stop him, if they are found in breech of the contract, that he had originally for his 10PM show? I don't think Leno is a victim here at all. He may want to appear to be one, but no one has explained why Leno couldn't take a breach of contract payout and walk away? Conan may not have been ready to retire either, and no one is saying he or Leno would be by making the same choice Conan did in this fiasco, but Leno didn't and that makes him appear to have wanted the change to a certain extent, in my eyes.
Jay Leno still has his 10 PM show. Breached hasn't occur yet. Basically NBC is trying to resolve the issue without breaching any contract by renegotiate with Leno and Conan before 10PM is canceled.
Turn your head left 90
http://www.nypost.com/f/print/new...80IeSI?v=
Oh, lets start in 2004 2004, Im sitting in my office, an NBC executive comes in and says to me, Listen, Conan OBrien has gotten offers from other networks. We dont want him to go, so were going to give him The Tonight Show. I said, Well, Ive been number one for 12 years. They said, We know that, but we dont think you can sustain that. I said, OK. How about until I fall to number two, then you fire me? No, we made this decision. I said, Thats fine.
Dont blame Conan OBrien. Nice guy, good family guy, great guy. He and I have talked and not a problem since then. Thats what managers and people do, they try to get something for their clients. I said, Ill retire just to avoid what happened the last time. OK.
So time goes by, and we stay number one up until the day we leave. We hand [applause] no, no. OK, but Im leaving before my contract is out. About six to eight months early. So before I could go anywhere else, it would be at least a year or 18 months before I could go and do a show somewhere else.
I said to NBC, Would you release me from my contract? They said, We want to keep you here. OK.
What are your ideas? They said, How about prime time? I said, That will never work. No, no, we want to put you on at 10. We have done focus groups. People will love you at 10. . . . Four months go by, we dont make it. Meanwhile, Conans show during the summer were not on was not doing well. The great hope was that we would help him. Well, we didnt help him any. OK.
They come and go, This show isnt working. We want to let you go. Can you let me out of my contract? No, youre still a valuable asset to this company. How valuable can I be? You fired me twice. How valuable can I be? OK.
So then, the affiliates are not happy. The affiliates are the ones that own the TV stations. Theyre the ones that sort of make the decisions. Theyre not happy with your performance, and Conan is not doing well at 11:30. I said, Whats your idea? They said, Well, look, how about you do a half-hour show at 11:30? Now, where I come from, when your boss gives you a job and you dont do it well I think we did a good job here, but we didnt get the ratings, so you get humbled. I said, OK, Im not crazy about doing a half-hour, but OK. What do you want to do with Conan? Well put him on at midnight, or 12:05, keeps The Tonight Show does all that, he gets the whole hour. I said, OK. You think Conan will go for that? Yes, yes. [Laughter.] Almost guarantee you. I said OK. Shake hands, thats it. I dont have a manager, I dont have an agent, thats my handshake deal.
Next thing, I see Conan . . . saying he doesnt want to do that. They come back to me and they say, If he decides to walk and doesnt want to do it, do you want the show back? I go, Yeah, Ill take the show back. If thats what he wants to do. This way, we keep our people working, fine.
So thats pretty much where we are. It looks like we might be back at 11:30, Im not sure. I dont know. [Applause.] I dont know. But through all of this through all of this, Conan OBrien has been a gentleman. Hes a good guy. I have no animosity towards him.
This is all business. If you dont get the ratings, they take you off the air . . . You can do almost anything. You get ratings, they keep you. I dont get ratings he wants. That was NBCs solution. It didnt work, so we might have an answer for you tomorrow.
So, well see. Thats basically where it is.'
Leno isn't forced into taking the Tonight Show or going without a paycheck.
If you read what I posted in #229. Leno stated twice that he wanted to walk away, after Conan took over and after NBC told him 10 pm show would be canceled. Both time NBC told Leno, No.
Nice spin Leno....I wouldn't say Conan wanted to walk and not do the show. He just wanted to do it under the terms of the 11:35 time slot. The problem is Jay wanted that time slot whether it be "his show" moving to 11:35 or him taking over the Tonight Show again. If he didn't want it then he would have told NBC no, just like Conan did when the move was suggested.
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During tonight's monologue, Leno went after Letterman by saying the only way to get Letterman to ignore you is to marry him.
Oh yea, check out this Chinese news animation explaining the whole fiasco.
Animation [hulu.com]