Newegg[newegg.com] has Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor + 1TB Corsair MP600 Core XT SSD + Intel Builders Bundle Gift: Civilization VII & Assassins Creed Shadows on sale for $448.99. Shipping is free.
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Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor
Corsair MP600 CORE XT M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 3D QLC Internal Solid State Drive Up to 5,000MB/sec (SSD) CSSD-F1000GBMP600CXT
Intel Builders Bundle Gift - Civilization VII & Assassins Creed Shadows
CPU Description:
24 cores (8 P-cores + 16 E-cores) and 32 threads. Integrated Intel® UHD Graphics 770 included
Performance hybrid architecture integrates two core microarchitectures, prioritizing and distributing workloads to optimize performance
Up to 6.0 GHz unlocked. 36MB Cache
Compatible with Intel 600-series (with potential BIOS update) and 700-series chipset-based motherboards
Turbo Boost Max Technology 3.0 Frequency, and PCIe 5.0 & 4.0 support. DDR4 and DDR5 Memory support.
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These had issues with over volting the CPU cores and killing them.
Double check your BIOS to make sure it's the most up to date. That should take care of it (via new CPU micro code)
Yes and no. There's been reports that with the latest microcode update that it's still degrading CPUs, but it's also making the CPUs underperform on top of it.
Yes and no. There's been reports that with the latest microcode update that it's still degrading CPUs, but it's also making the CPUs underperform on top of it.
Do you happen to have any links to said reports? Genuinely curious.
Do you happen to have any links to said reports? Genuinely curious.
No wonder why our 13700k has stability issues. We updated to the latest bios and left the 12600k in there until the release hoping we dodged the bullet.
Luckily cpu are still made by American companies I had good luck with RMA in the past with Intel back when we used to cpu min litecoin.
Do you happen to have any links to said reports? Genuinely curious.
Overvolting Issue: Elevated voltage and temperature can affect a clock tree circuit within the CPU's core, leading to instability and potential degradation. theverge.com[theverge.com] BIOS Updates: Intel released BIOS and microcode updates to adjust power delivery settings and voltage requests during various operating conditions. theverge.com[theverge.com] User Experiences: Performance Reduction: Some users reported reduced performance after applying the microcode update, with unsuccessful attempts to regain performance through BIOS adjustments. overclock.net[overclock.net] Stability Improvements: Other users found that the microcode update stabilized their systems without noticeable performance loss in typical workloadscommunity.intel.com [intel.com] Undervolting: Positive Outcomes: Many users successfully implemented undervolting to reduce temperatures and power consumption with minimal performance impact reddit.com[reddit.com] Challenges: Some users faced system instability when attempting even modest undervolting, leading to crashes during stress testing overclock.net [overclock.net] Additional Considerations: Warranty Extension: Intel has extended the warranty for affected CPUs by an additional two years. Users experiencing persistent instability may be eligible for a replacement under this extended warranty. theverge.com[theverge.com]
Overvolting Issue: Elevated voltage and temperature can affect a clock tree circuit within the CPU's core, leading to instability and potential degradation. theverge.com[theverge.com]BIOS Updates: Intel released BIOS and microcode updates to adjust power delivery settings and voltage requests during various operating conditions. theverge.com[theverge.com]User Experiences: Performance Reduction: Some users reported reduced performance after applying the microcode update, with unsuccessful attempts to regain performance through BIOS adjustments. overclock.net[overclock.net]Stability Improvements: Other users found that the microcode update stabilized their systems without noticeable performance loss in typical workloadscommunity.intel.com[intel.com]Undervolting: Positive Outcomes: Many users successfully implemented undervolting to reduce temperatures and power consumption with minimal performance impact reddit.com[reddit.com]Challenges: Some users faced system instability when attempting even modest undervolting, leading to crashes during stress testing overclock.net[overclock.net]Additional Considerations: Warranty Extension: Intel has extended the warranty for affected CPUs by an additional two years. Users experiencing persistent instability may be eligible for a replacement under this extended warranty. theverge.com[theverge.com]
Not a single one of these links says anything about these chips CONTINUING to degrade even after the 0x12B Microcode. The person I originally responded to made the claim of "There's been reports that with the latest microcode update that it's still degrading CPUs".
I asked for links to these reports. Do you have any real legit evidence that brand new Intel 13th and 14th Gen CPUs are still degrading even with the new 0x12B microcode?
Not a single one of these links says anything about these chips CONTINUING to degrade even after the 0x12B Microcode. The person I originally responded to made the claim of "There's been reports that with the latest microcode update that it's still degrading CPUs".
I asked for links to these reports. Do you have any real legit evidence that brand new Intel 13th and 14th Gen CPUs are still degrading even with the new 0x12B microcode?
"Not a single one of these links says anything about these chips CONTINUING to degrade even after the 0x12B Microcode."
Ah yes, the classic "if I don't see a direct quote saying exactly what I want, it must not be true" argument. So let's break this down for you.
BIOS Updates & Overvolting Issues Persist:
The Overclock.net thread (Nov 2024) explicitly details multiple cases where users applied BIOS updates containing microcode 0x12B and still experienced higher-than-expected power draw, increased temperatures, and instability (some even tried reverting to an older BIOS, but the Management Engine (ME) firmware persisted).
Users on ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte motherboards noted that new BIOS versions push more aggressive voltages, and in some cases, default SVID settings were not behaving as expected.
Performance Loss After Microcode 0x12B:
Intel's own BIOS and microcode updates were meant to "fix" degradation by adjusting power delivery and voltage settings, yet multiple users reported significant performance drops that couldn't be recovered, even with manual BIOS tuning.
Overclock.net user "StAndrew" (Nov 2024): "I reset my overclock settings and my temps BLEW UP. Overheated so quick. I don't know what Asus changed but I've been steadily undervolting and tuning the vdroop."
Direct Evidence of Ongoing Issues After 0x12B:
User TISBA (Nov 2024): After updating to microcode 0x12B, their i9-14900K went from stable 75°C under gaming loads to instant thermal throttling at 100°C in Cinebench.
Rolling back BIOS did NOT fix the issue, meaning something persisted beyond just the BIOS settings.
Undervolting as a Workaround (But Not a Solution):
Many users resorted to undervolting, which shouldn't be necessary if the microcode actually "fixed" things.
User "rulik006" (Overclock.net, Nov 2024): "Latest bioses are dumb, they're running at high vCore without out-of-box undervolt."
Still No Official Intel Statement Confirming Full Resolution:
The 0x12B microcode update was marketed as a "fix," but Intel never stated it definitively stopped degradation—just that it was supposed to "address power delivery concerns."
If you're so confident degradation isn't still happening, maybe drop Intel an email and see if they'll confirm that.
So, TL;DR:
Yes, there are reports.
Yes, users are still seeing abnormal CPU behavior post-0x12B.
Yes, the BIOS updates did NOT fully solve the problem for everyone.
No, Intel has not stated outright that degradation is 100% resolved.
But sure, if you want to keep believing Intel's microcode 0x12B magically wiped out all issues, go ahead. Meanwhile, people with i9-14900Ks running at 100°C with the latest "fixed" BIOS are wondering why their CPUs are cooking themselves alive.
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"Not a single one of these links says anything about these chips CONTINUING to degrade even after the 0x12B Microcode." Ah yes, the classic "if I don't see a direct quote saying exactly what I want, it must not be true" argument. So let's break this down for you.
BIOS Updates & Overvolting Issues Persist:
The Overclock.net thread (Nov 2024) explicitly details multiple cases where users applied BIOS updates containing microcode 0x12B and still experienced higher-than-expected power draw, increased temperatures, and instability (some even tried reverting to an older BIOS, but the Management Engine (ME) firmware persisted).
Users on ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte motherboards noted that new BIOS versions push more aggressive voltages, and in some cases, default SVID settings were not behaving as expected.
Performance Loss After Microcode 0x12B:
Intel's own BIOS and microcode updates were meant to "fix" degradation by adjusting power delivery and voltage settings, yet multiple users reported significant performance drops that couldn't be recovered, even with manual BIOS tuning.
Overclock.net user "StAndrew" (Nov 2024): "I reset my overclock settings and my temps BLEW UP. Overheated so quick. I don't know what Asus changed but I've been steadily undervolting and tuning the vdroop."
Direct Evidence of Ongoing Issues After 0x12B:
User TISBA (Nov 2024): After updating to microcode 0x12B, their i9-14900K went from stable 75°C under gaming loads to instant thermal throttling at 100°C in Cinebench.
Rolling back BIOS did NOT fix the issue, meaning something persisted beyond just the BIOS settings.
Undervolting as a Workaround (But Not a Solution):
Many users resorted to undervolting, which shouldn't be necessary if the microcode actually "fixed" things.
User "rulik006" (Overclock.net, Nov 2024): "Latest bioses are dumb, they're running at high vCore without out-of-box undervolt."
Still No Official Intel Statement Confirming Full Resolution:
The 0x12B microcode update was marketed as a "fix," but Intel never stated it definitively stopped degradation—just that it was supposed to "address power delivery concerns."
If you're so confident degradation isn't still happening, maybe drop Intel an email and see if they'll confirm that.
So, TL;DR:
Yes, there are reports.
Yes, users are still seeing abnormal CPU behavior post-0x12B.
Yes, the BIOS updates did NOT fully solve the problem for everyone.
No, Intel has not stated outright that degradation is 100% resolved.
But sure, if you want to keep believing Intel's microcode 0x12B magically wiped out all issues, go ahead. Meanwhile, people with i9-14900Ks running at 100°C with the latest "fixed" BIOS are wondering why their CPUs are cooking themselves alive.
You didn't provide one single report of a new Intel CPU degrading when installed into a motherboard running a BIOS with Microcode 0x12B. All the stuff you just wasted your time dictating are people having problems with CPUs that were already degraded.
The extra voltage is necessary because degraded CPUs aren't able to run stable anymore at lower voltages. That creates more heat, hence why they notice higher temps.
Anybody who has a degraded CPU is more than likely going to continue experiencing issues even with the new BIOS. But if you buy a NEW Intel 13th or 14th Gen CPU, and put it into a motherboard running the 0x12B microcode, you should not experience degradation in this manor, according to Intel.
Oh and btw, here is your statement from Intel.
"Yes, we're confirming this is the cause and that it is fixed," Intel spokesperson Thomas Hannaford tells The Verge. https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/...-cause-fix
As Intel has stated, if any of the CPUs has degraded, any microcode / BIOS tweaks will not fix the problem. Ask for a refund. For brand new ones, that are about to be installed in systems, applying the microcode / BIOS tweaks will prevent the problem...
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Double check your BIOS to make sure it's the most up to date. That should take care of it (via new CPU micro code)
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Double check your BIOS to make sure it's the most up to date. That should take care of it (via new CPU micro code)
Luckily cpu are still made by American companies I had good luck with RMA in the past with Intel back when we used to cpu min litecoin.
Overvolting Issue: Elevated voltage and temperature can affect a clock tree circuit within the CPU's core, leading to instability and potential degradation. theverge.com [theverge.com]
BIOS Updates: Intel released BIOS and microcode updates to adjust power delivery settings and voltage requests during various operating conditions. theverge.com [theverge.com]
User Experiences: Performance Reduction: Some users reported reduced performance after applying the microcode update, with unsuccessful attempts to regain performance through BIOS adjustments. overclock.net [overclock.net]
Stability Improvements: Other users found that the microcode update stabilized their systems without noticeable performance loss in typical workloadscommunity.intel.com
[intel.com]
Undervolting:
Positive Outcomes: Many users successfully implemented undervolting to reduce temperatures and power consumption with minimal performance impact reddit.com [reddit.com]
Challenges: Some users faced system instability when attempting even modest undervolting, leading to crashes during stress testing overclock.net
[overclock.net]
Additional Considerations: Warranty Extension: Intel has extended the warranty for affected CPUs by an additional two years. Users experiencing persistent instability may be eligible for a replacement under this extended warranty. theverge.com [theverge.com]
I asked for links to these reports. Do you have any real legit evidence that brand new Intel 13th and 14th Gen CPUs are still degrading even with the new 0x12B microcode?
I asked for links to these reports. Do you have any real legit evidence that brand new Intel 13th and 14th Gen CPUs are still degrading even with the new 0x12B microcode?
"Not a single one of these links says anything about these chips CONTINUING to degrade even after the 0x12B Microcode."
Ah yes, the classic "if I don't see a direct quote saying exactly what I want, it must not be true" argument. So let's break this down for you.
- BIOS Updates & Overvolting Issues Persist:
- The Overclock.net thread (Nov 2024) explicitly details multiple cases where users applied BIOS updates containing microcode 0x12B and still experienced higher-than-expected power draw, increased temperatures, and instability (some even tried reverting to an older BIOS, but the Management Engine (ME) firmware persisted).
- Users on ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte motherboards noted that new BIOS versions push more aggressive voltages, and in some cases, default SVID settings were not behaving as expected.
- Performance Loss After Microcode 0x12B:
- Intel's own BIOS and microcode updates were meant to "fix" degradation by adjusting power delivery and voltage settings, yet multiple users reported significant performance drops that couldn't be recovered, even with manual BIOS tuning.
- Overclock.net user "StAndrew" (Nov 2024): "I reset my overclock settings and my temps BLEW UP. Overheated so quick. I don't know what Asus changed but I've been steadily undervolting and tuning the vdroop."
- Direct Evidence of Ongoing Issues After 0x12B:
- User TISBA (Nov 2024): After updating to microcode 0x12B, their i9-14900K went from stable 75°C under gaming loads to instant thermal throttling at 100°C in Cinebench.
- Rolling back BIOS did NOT fix the issue, meaning something persisted beyond just the BIOS settings.
- Undervolting as a Workaround (But Not a Solution):
- Many users resorted to undervolting, which shouldn't be necessary if the microcode actually "fixed" things.
- User "rulik006" (Overclock.net, Nov 2024): "Latest bioses are dumb, they're running at high vCore without out-of-box undervolt."
- Still No Official Intel Statement Confirming Full Resolution:
- The 0x12B microcode update was marketed as a "fix," but Intel never stated it definitively stopped degradation—just that it was supposed to "address power delivery concerns."
- If you're so confident degradation isn't still happening, maybe drop Intel an email and see if they'll confirm that.
So, TL;DR:- Yes, there are reports.
- Yes, users are still seeing abnormal CPU behavior post-0x12B.
- Yes, the BIOS updates did NOT fully solve the problem for everyone.
- No, Intel has not stated outright that degradation is 100% resolved.
But sure, if you want to keep believing Intel's microcode 0x12B magically wiped out all issues, go ahead. Meanwhile, people with i9-14900Ks running at 100°C with the latest "fixed" BIOS are wondering why their CPUs are cooking themselves alive.Sign up for a Slickdeals account to remove this ad.
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- BIOS Updates & Overvolting Issues Persist:
- The Overclock.net thread (Nov 2024) explicitly details multiple cases where users applied BIOS updates containing microcode 0x12B and still experienced higher-than-expected power draw, increased temperatures, and instability (some even tried reverting to an older BIOS, but the Management Engine (ME) firmware persisted).
- Users on ASUS, MSI, and Gigabyte motherboards noted that new BIOS versions push more aggressive voltages, and in some cases, default SVID settings were not behaving as expected.
- Performance Loss After Microcode 0x12B:
- Intel's own BIOS and microcode updates were meant to "fix" degradation by adjusting power delivery and voltage settings, yet multiple users reported significant performance drops that couldn't be recovered, even with manual BIOS tuning.
- Overclock.net user "StAndrew" (Nov 2024): "I reset my overclock settings and my temps BLEW UP. Overheated so quick. I don't know what Asus changed but I've been steadily undervolting and tuning the vdroop."
- Direct Evidence of Ongoing Issues After 0x12B:
- User TISBA (Nov 2024): After updating to microcode 0x12B, their i9-14900K went from stable 75°C under gaming loads to instant thermal throttling at 100°C in Cinebench.
- Rolling back BIOS did NOT fix the issue, meaning something persisted beyond just the BIOS settings.
- Undervolting as a Workaround (But Not a Solution):
- Many users resorted to undervolting, which shouldn't be necessary if the microcode actually "fixed" things.
- User "rulik006" (Overclock.net, Nov 2024): "Latest bioses are dumb, they're running at high vCore without out-of-box undervolt."
- Still No Official Intel Statement Confirming Full Resolution:
- The 0x12B microcode update was marketed as a "fix," but Intel never stated it definitively stopped degradation—just that it was supposed to "address power delivery concerns."
- If you're so confident degradation isn't still happening, maybe drop Intel an email and see if they'll confirm that.
So, TL;DR:- Yes, there are reports.
- Yes, users are still seeing abnormal CPU behavior post-0x12B.
- Yes, the BIOS updates did NOT fully solve the problem for everyone.
- No, Intel has not stated outright that degradation is 100% resolved.
But sure, if you want to keep believing Intel's microcode 0x12B magically wiped out all issues, go ahead. Meanwhile, people with i9-14900Ks running at 100°C with the latest "fixed" BIOS are wondering why their CPUs are cooking themselves alive.The extra voltage is necessary because degraded CPUs aren't able to run stable anymore at lower voltages. That creates more heat, hence why they notice higher temps.
Anybody who has a degraded CPU is more than likely going to continue experiencing issues even with the new BIOS. But if you buy a NEW Intel 13th or 14th Gen CPU, and put it into a motherboard running the 0x12B microcode, you should not experience degradation in this manor, according to Intel.
Oh and btw, here is your statement from Intel.
"Yes, we're confirming this is the cause and that it is fixed," Intel spokesperson Thomas Hannaford tells The Verge.
https://www.theverge.co
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