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$729* | 1TB Apple iPhone 15 Pro Max Unlocked Smartphone (Renewed Premium) at Amazon

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Jan 29, 2026 02:24 AM
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11AJan 29, 2026 02:24 AM
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Is this a good deal?

These phones are 2.5 years old at this point. They have another 3.5 years in them before Apple slows them down (by making the OS heavier and heavier each year) to the point where they are frustrating to use. And you'll have to pay for a $100 battery swap to use them for another 3.5 years.
These are used phones. Why are they still so expensive?
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Jan 29, 2026 02:37 AM
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sr27Jan 29, 2026 02:37 AM
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Quote from 11A :
Is this a good deal?

These phones are 2.5 years old at this point. They have another 3.5 years in them before Apple slows them down (by making the OS heavier and heavier each year) to the point where they are frustrating to use. And you'll have to pay for a $100 battery swap to use them for another 3.5 years.
These are used phones. Why are they still so expensive?
No, this is not a good deal. They are practically three years old. Disagree on Apple slowing down. I used my previous iPhone close to a decade. Just one battery change. I upgraded because … well apps stopped supporting that model and OS.
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Jan 29, 2026 02:40 AM
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plieplJan 29, 2026 02:40 AM
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Quote from 11A :
Is this a good deal?

These phones are 2.5 years old at this point. They have another 3.5 years in them before Apple slows them down (by making the OS heavier and heavier each year) to the point where they are frustrating to use. And you'll have to pay for a $100 battery swap to use them for another 3.5 years.
These are used phones. Why are they still so expensive?
The base iPhone 17 ($800) is so good this year that most people should just go with that instead of considering a refurbished/used 2+ yr old phones.
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Jan 29, 2026 02:54 AM
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Quote from pliepl :
The base iPhone 17 ($800) is so good this year that most people should just go with that instead of considering a refurbished/used 2+ yr old phones.
I second this. New battery and longer iOS support with the iPhone 17.
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Jan 29, 2026 03:58 AM
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11AJan 29, 2026 03:58 AM
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Quote from sr27 :
No, this is not a good deal. They are practically three years old. Disagree on Apple slowing down. I used my previous iPhone close to a decade. Just one battery change. I upgraded because … well apps stopped supporting that model and OS.
Well, I have an old iPhone 11 Pro Max 512GB as my secondary phone. It is frustratingly slow since the iOS 26 update. There are lots of stutters when it just won't respond for several seconds.
Are phones really usable for a decade? That is not my experience. I have two old iPhone 6S Plus phones that I turn on occasionally when I need a third phone. They are almost completely unusable. They have been for years now.
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Jan 29, 2026 04:01 AM
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11AJan 29, 2026 04:01 AM
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Quote from pliepl :
The base iPhone 17 ($800) is so good this year that most people should just go with that instead of considering a refurbished/used 2+ yr old phones.
Naaa, no woman will give you her phone number if you pull out a base iPhone that's not a Pro (Max). Some may even laugh in your face and call you poor. Signaling status is why people pay 2x as much for an iPhone as for a good Android phone. Women keep Apple in business. Women keep used Apple prices high. They will simply not text back if they see a green bubble.
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Jan 29, 2026 12:37 PM
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slimdunkin117Jan 29, 2026 12:37 PM
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Quote from sr27 :
No, this is not a good deal. They are practically three years old. Disagree on Apple slowing down. I used my previous iPhone close to a decade. Just one battery change. I upgraded because … well apps stopped supporting that model and OS.
Update to 26 and get back to us about the "slowing down" part
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Jan 29, 2026 03:40 PM
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GreyMice237Jan 29, 2026 03:40 PM
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While it's tempting to go get the former flagship at half the price, it's also kind of nuts. You can buy a current iPhone from apple directly for less (iPhone 16e for USD 600 ) or just slightly more (iPhone 17 for USD 800). Both having better CPUs and longer support.
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Jan 29, 2026 03:52 PM
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JoegranJan 29, 2026 03:52 PM
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Quote from slimdunkin117 :
Update to 26 and get back to us about the "slowing down" part
Right! I'm an iPhone 11 user, and was pretty satisfied with that until i updated to iOS 26 last week. It is now very slow and laggy. I wasn't going to update it at all, but my ALARM stopped working once i started delaying the update, so it was essential to update. And now i'm stuck with a slow and bogged down device doing the same things that used to be snappy. But hey, my alarm works again..... Very annoying.
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Jan 29, 2026 04:18 PM
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11AJan 29, 2026 04:18 PM
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Quote from Joegran :
Right! I'm an iPhone 11 user, and was pretty satisfied with that until i updated to iOS 26 last week. It is now very slow and laggy. I wasn't going to update it at all, but my ALARM stopped working once i started delaying the update, so it was essential to update. And now i'm stuck with a slow and bogged down device doing the same things that used to be snappy. But hey, my alarm works again..... Very annoying.
I have the exact same experience with my iPhone 11 Pro Max. It slowed to a crawl after the iOS 26 update. This reeks of planned obsolescence. I'll put up with the slowdown for one more year as it is my secondary phone. I expect it to become unusable with the next OS update. Apple is doing this on purpose.
Jan 29, 2026 05:08 PM
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plieplJan 29, 2026 05:08 PM
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Quote from 11A :
I have the exact same experience with my iPhone 11 Pro Max. It slowed to a crawl after the iOS 26 update. This reeks of planned obsolescence. I'll put up with the slowdown for one more year as it is my secondary phone. I expect it to become unusable with the next OS update. Apple is doing this on purpose.
Phones just get old and can't run the latest versions with software features those old devices probably shouldn't run, I've seen this too many times, it's not exclusive to iOS, it happens with Android as well. I was an Android user through most of the 2010's and was just as frustrated. The difference is, Android phones get dropped from OS updates well before the hardware is too old, it was luck if a phone got 2 yrs of OS updates, and even then the OS updates were not always smooth. It always felt like what the Android version the phone shipped with, plus the version after that was the only ones the phone could really run. The opposite is true on iPhone, Apple supports OS updates on hardware they probably shouldn't have. Samsung and Pixel announced a few years back that they would start supporting OS updates for longer going forward on their new devices, it will be interesting to see how that pans out. Are they going to fall into the trap that Apple did and just put in features without thought for older devices, or will they gimp new features to the point that it makes having the new OS on the old devices not even worth it.

The last version of iOS an iPhone supports shouldn't be installed. No matter how powerful an iPhone is when it was released, 4 to 5 yrs is usually the limit for iOS updates on iPhones these days even if Apple says your phone is compatible for the new OS. I've heard the same complaints all the way back to when the iPhone 4 got the iOS 7 update when it probably shouldn't have, as the hardware was too old for what Apple wanted to do with iOS 7. Most people see that upgrade banner on their iPhone and don't think anything of it and upgrade. It's not hard to know what to avoid, YouTube reviewers test these new versions of iOS on older iPhones and tell you whether you should or shouldn't upgrade.
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Jan 29, 2026 07:49 PM
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tenderidolJan 29, 2026 07:49 PM
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Love the inaccurate comparisons. Tell me the price of the 17 Pro Max with 1TB storage without any "oh you can pay for iCloud storage, blah, blah, blah". You may not use local storage for your needs (I don't, for instance), but there are others with legitimate needs (e.g., my wife) for this much storage without the need to justify their reasoning to others.
Jan 30, 2026 04:25 AM
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slimdunkin117Jan 30, 2026 04:25 AM
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Quote from 11A :
Naaa, no woman will give you her phone number if you pull out a base iPhone that's not a Pro (Max). Some may even laugh in your face and call you poor. Signaling status is why people pay 2x as much for an iPhone as for a good Android phone. Women keep Apple in business. Women keep used Apple prices high. They will simply not text back if they see a green bubble.
Chinese iPhone replica + bluebubbles app
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Jan 30, 2026 04:26 AM
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slimdunkin117Jan 30, 2026 04:26 AM
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Quote from pliepl :
Phones just get old and can't run the latest versions with software features those old devices probably shouldn't run, I've seen this too many times, it's not exclusive to iOS, it happens with Android as well. I was an Android user through most of the 2010's and was just as frustrated. The difference is, Android phones get dropped from OS updates well before the hardware is too old, it was luck if a phone got 2 yrs of OS updates, and even then the OS updates were not always smooth. It always felt like what the Android version the phone shipped with, plus the version after that was the only ones the phone could really run. The opposite is true on iPhone, Apple supports OS updates on hardware they probably shouldn't have. Samsung and Pixel announced a few years back that they would start supporting OS updates for longer going forward on their new devices, it will be interesting to see how that pans out. Are they going to fall into the trap that Apple did and just put in features without thought for older devices, or will they gimp new features to the point that it makes having the new OS on the old devices not even worth it.

The last version of iOS an iPhone supports shouldn't be installed. No matter how powerful an iPhone is when it was released, 4 to 5 yrs is usually the limit for iOS updates on iPhones these days even if Apple says your phone is compatible for the new OS. I've heard the same complaints all the way back to when the iPhone 4 got the iOS 7 update when it probably shouldn't have, as the hardware was too old for what Apple wanted to do with iOS 7. Most people see that upgrade banner on their iPhone and don't think anything of it and upgrade. It's not hard to know what to avoid, YouTube reviewers test these new versions of iOS on older iPhones and tell you whether you should or shouldn't upgrade.
No, apple has been incompetent with their design choices. 26 runs like crap even on modern m4 macbooks. The moron that lead the liquid design left to meta
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Jan 31, 2026 05:00 PM
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ztgluisJan 31, 2026 05:00 PM
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I purchased this deal last time, still haven't received it, delivery date moved from Jan 21 to Feb 10.
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