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does any one else on SD watch this show. i have watched each episode and i'm hooked its a mystery going on in each episode and makes it worth wild to watch .


EDIT April 12 2007- you can watch LOST on abc.com (streaming) also but its just one day after.

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

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shhaggy
05-24-2010 at 10:03 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:03 AM.
Quote from Entropic01 :
Why do you say everything is Jack-centric? It may just seem like that since he was the last to "awaken" to the dead realization in the afterlife but Christian said, "you needed all of them and they all needed you". I don't see as Jack being any more important than the others.

I'm thinking Ben is deceased as well but he just doesn't feel worthy/deserving of a happy life as of yet in the afterlife due to all the questionable things he did while on the island.
Because you don't see what happened to them. Why is it that we see the conclusion of Jack's story but not Sawyer, Kate, Hurley, or Ben? They were all important characters. For all we know, that ending was all a figment of Jack's imagination as he passes to the afterlife, a realm that his brain created with the people that he grew closest to. It would explain why he invented a son and why the other children are completely ignored, like Aaron and Baby Kwon. It would explain why Sayid ends up in eternity with Shannon, despite Nadia seemingly being the love of his life, because Jack quite frankly didn't even know Nadia.
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ikonoklast
05-24-2010 at 10:05 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:05 AM.
Quote from Entropic01 :
Why do you say everything is Jack-centric? It may just seem like that since he was the last to "awaken" to the dead realization in the afterlife but Christian said, "you needed all of them and they all needed you". I don't see as Jack being any more important than the others.

I'm thinking Ben is deceased as well but he just doesn't feel worthy/deserving of a happy life as of yet in the afterlife due to all the questionable things he did while on the island.
I don't know, it just seemed that way to me about it being Jack-centric. Ben feeling undeserving does make more sense but was just throwing in another reason.

Ahhh, I think I'll be thinking about this for a few more days. I think that makes it an OK ending. laugh out loud <--- Just realized how many times I said 'think' in that sentence. LMAO

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I posted this a few pages back and I'll post it again I guess...
Anyone else think that maybe they actually died when Jacob originally touched them since it was said that their lives ceased to be their own?
I think they were still alive. I think he was just playing puppet master to get them to the Island.
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RHCCapri
05-24-2010 at 10:10 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:10 AM.
Quote from dynamite :
OK so what I got from the finale was that they were all dead to begin with and Oceanic 815 was just a way to ferry these "Lost" souls to a common place so they could work together to "find" their way forward.

I guess with this style of writing everything is open to interpretation. I enjoyed the 6 years immensely although I was hoping for more science and less spirituality. Oh well....
The writers said from Season One that The Island was NOT purgatory, so what happened after the crash really happened.

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But what happens to Juliet and Jacks son? Are they taken away?

What about widmore's mom? and Ben? Do they still exist? Do they live in the alternate world, and the other people have disappeared. What determines how old they look in that life? In the alternate life, passage of time is implied by aging, so I don't accept that there is no "when."

Also, I don't believe that they died when the plane passed over the island and continued on its course. Their lives were dramatically different before they got on the plane. Hurley wasn't cursed, Ben was a teacher, Sawyer was a cop, etc.
Yep kind of sucks that David Shephard ceases to exist. As in the movie Passengers the relatives of the dead come back to help them come to terms and move on, at least Christian Shephard does for Jack.

Like Christian said LA X was a place they created to meet in the afterlife, but it also seems to be a place where they get to live the lives that they would have wanted if Jacob and The Island had not interfered with them. Hugo being the luckiest man alive, Sawyer taking the high road, Locke's Dad not having a chance to con him, and Daniel Faraday pursuing his love of music. Eloise Hawking seemed to be aware of this before Desmond as she warned him not to proceed with his plan.

We had a few clues that LA X was not really "real" such as no Shannon on the plane, Rose living in LA, the Losties did not seem to have their "special powers" (Hugo & Miles talking to the dead), and the big clue that the LA County Board of Education no longer required teaching certificates for substitutes! The lovers, once connected, had no reason to stay and moved on. Ben wanted to live an Island free life and get the chance to be a real Dad to Alex. I am not sure if LA X Alex was real or just an NPC.
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RHCCapri
05-24-2010 at 10:15 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:15 AM.
Quote from hidnprncss :
I posted this a few pages back and I'll post it again I guess...
Anyone else think that maybe they actually died when Jacob originally touched them since it was said that their lives ceased to be their own?
Some time in the re-cap or the last episode I don't remember which, it was said that Jacob protected them from being killed by Smokey when he touched them. That would explain why Smokey did not kill Locke in Season One when they went face to face.
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tresanus
05-24-2010 at 10:23 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:23 AM.
On the island didnt Desmond kind of know what was going on in the alternate world?

It seemed like he knew the other world existed even though he was on the island, especially when he was getting close to going into the light..?

Also, after Jack made Hugo the island protector (and then descended down into the light to put the plug in) who here thought Jack was going to get blasted by the light and then turn into another incarnation of the evil black smoke (and hugo having to protect the island from him)??

I was scared that was how it was going to end - with Jack being the MiB and Hugo being the new Jacob. I'm glad jack didnt turn evil haha
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UsedtoBeHidn
05-24-2010 at 10:33 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:33 AM.
Quote from tresanus :
On the island didnt Desmond kind of know what was going on in the alternate world?

It seemed like he knew the other world existed even though he was on the island, especially when he was getting close to going into the light..?

Also, after Jack made Hugo the island protector (and then descended down into the light to put the plug in) who here thought Jack was going to get blasted by the light and then turn into another incarnation of the evil black smoke (and hugo having to protect the island from him)??

I was scared that was how it was going to end - with Jack being the MiB and Hugo being the new Jacob. I'm glad jack didnt turn evil haha
I thought he might turn into the smoke too.. like that was a yin & yang thing balance of good and evil but I was happy it didn't go that route.
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shhaggy
05-24-2010 at 10:33 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:33 AM.
Quote from tresanus :
On the island didnt Desmond kind of know what was going on in the alternate world?

It seemed like he knew the other world existed even though he was on the island, especially when he was getting close to going into the light..?

Also, after Jack made Hugo the island protector (and then descended down into the light to put the plug in) who here thought Jack was going to get blasted by the light and then turn into another incarnation of the evil black smoke (and hugo having to protect the island from him)??

I was scared that was how it was going to end - with Jack being the MiB and Hugo being the new Jacob. I'm glad jack didnt turn evil haha
It seemed Desmond THOUGHT he understood what was going on but was ultimately wrong, because he thought when he put the light out that he would go to "another world". He seemingly knew it was important to get people to remember but I don't think he understood that the world was death.
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tresanus
05-24-2010 at 10:35 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:35 AM.
Quote from shhaggy :
It seemed Desmond THOUGHT he understood what was going on but was ultimately wrong, because he thought when he put the light out that he would go to "another world". He seemingly knew it was important to get people to remember but I don't think he understood that the world was death.
Yeah I can see that, it definitely seemed like he knew exactly what the other world was like (death) when he was trying to get everyone to experience their epiphanies and "move on"
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05-24-2010 at 10:44 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:44 AM.
Quote from Dazzledby5 :

Wooah waaay to go SPOILER! I just spent 7 hours watching LOST, I dont have time to watch TCA yet - way to ruin it for the other half of us SPOILER TAGS ROCK!
Hey so sorry but by the time you woke up you would have known. Besides I got to watch in it Hulu anyways. Again sorry but I was really cheering for Bret, Holly was a super b*t$h.

Quote from hidnprncss :
I posted this a few pages back and I'll post it again I guess... Anyone else think that maybe they actually died when Jacob originally touched them since it was said that their lives ceased to be their own?
Hmm I thought I answered this, Jacob touched them because he made them a candidate and he provided protection from them also, it's like nothing could have happened to them until they got to the island.

Quote from tresanus :
On the island didnt Desmond kind of know what was going on in the alternate world? It seemed like he knew the other world existed even though he was on the island, especially when he was getting close to going into the light..?

Also, after Jack made Hugo the island protector (and then descended down into the light to put the plug in) who here thought Jack was going to get blasted by the light and then turn into another incarnation of the evil black smoke (and hugo having to protect the island from him)?? I was scared that was how it was going to end - with Jack being the MiB and Hugo being the new Jacob. I'm glad jack didnt turn evil haha
Desmond kind of knew but not the whole entire plan. Jack would never turn into the black smoke because he was a protector.
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RHCCapri
05-24-2010 at 10:44 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:44 AM.
Quote from tresanus :
Also, after Jack made Hugo the island protector (and then descended down into the light to put the plug in) who here thought Jack was going to get blasted by the light and then turn into another incarnation of the evil black smoke (and hugo having to protect the island from him)??

I was scared that was how it was going to end - with Jack being the MiB and Hugo being the new Jacob. I'm glad jack didnt turn evil haha
My kids were saying that too.

How did Jack get out of the cave? One moment he was dying and the next he wakes up by the pond. I though "Oh the light healed him super fast like The Island has been doing for people all along" but then he died.
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beowulf7
05-24-2010 at 11:43 AM.
05-24-2010 at 11:43 AM.
A couple recaps and commentaries of last night's finale:
http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010...-the-ages/
http://tvwatch.people.com/2010/05...l-episode/

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Also, WHERE THE fark WAS MR. EKO??!?!?!
The show's writers and producers are racist! They skipped out on Eko, Michael, and Walt! EEK!

laugh out loud
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dynamite
05-24-2010 at 11:49 AM.
05-24-2010 at 11:49 AM.
Quote from tresanus :
I like this idea
The reason Ben does not go into the Church is because he has not yet found peace. He is still distraught about his daughter's death (remember he killed Widmore over this). Only those people from the island that have found peace can move on into the light.
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shhaggy
05-24-2010 at 11:52 AM.
05-24-2010 at 11:52 AM.
Quote from RHCCapri :
My kids were saying that too.

How did Jack get out of the cave? One moment he was dying and the next he wakes up by the pond. I though "Oh the light healed him super fast like The Island has been doing for people all along" but then he died.
The water flushed him out. It happened to the MIB too, except it was his dead body. Jack survived.
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beowulf7
05-24-2010 at 11:55 AM.
05-24-2010 at 11:55 AM.
Quote from ASG :
I was thinking about that but that seems to imply Sayid and Shannon loved each other more than Sayid and Nadia.
Well, of course, look how much hotter Shannon is compared to Nadia. Harhar
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05-24-2010 at 12:04 PM.
05-24-2010 at 12:04 PM.
Quote from MikeBear :
That was an AWESOME ending!

So, Hurley becomes Mr. Roarke, and Ben is Tattoo!! "Da Plane BOSS Da Plane" LOL. And they both live happily for an untold time running "Fantasy Island", before they die and meet everybody else that died during the series in the church at the end. Brilliant!!
Now that would have been a great ending LMAO
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