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How do large families afford to give every kid a smart phone?

120 286 November 29, 2011 at 06:58 AM in Discussion Type (3)
I am pricing plans and I can't believe how expensive it is to have multiple smart phones. We have 5 lines on our plan and pay $185/mo with AT&T - if we upgrade to all smart phones the plan will be almost $300/mo and that is not even unlimited data! I even get a corporate discount. We are almost out of contract on all lines so we can migrate to another carrier but it still looks like $250/month. I just cannot justify that kind of cell phone bill. Is it just me? Am I just cheap?

I have three teenagers nagging me about upgrading to smart phones and it is getting old.

My 17 yr old is working so I told her she can come off our family plan and get her own phone. She thinks that is unreasonable.

Ok, guess I just had to vent and whine.

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Kabn
11-29-2011 at 09:17 AM.
11-29-2011 at 09:17 AM.
not a parent, but the plan is to give them simple phones at a fairly young age so we can communicate with them when needed and they have something to call 911 with if they need it. the simple phone and plan will be paid for until they move out/turn 18, but if they want a nicer phone or more features, they'll have to pay for it.

as an aside: i'm going to sound like a curmudgeon, but based on a very small sample size, i don't want my kids having an advanced phone at an early age. my three cousins (ages 5-8 now) used to play with each other inside and outside and talk for hours when we got together at family functions. the father of one of them gave her his old Android-based phone to use as a media player (wifi, but no cell plan). he wanted her to get acquainted with technology at an early age so she wouldn't be left behind (she's home-schooled, and neither parent is very tech-savvy).

ever since she got that thing, her head has been buried in it every time i've been around her. she's either playing a game, watching/listening to media, or doing something else. she will do this while the other two kids are playing like they used to do. people will cry that it's the parents' job to make sure it's not overused, but honestly, if it's a phone, the kid will need to have it on them and usable the vast majority of the time, so they'll get dependent on it sooner or later.

i'm a technophile, but i see way too many people way too tied to their devices nowadays. if they can't check facebook every ten minutes, they go into withdrawal, and it can directly affect their relationships.
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11-29-2011 at 09:34 AM.
11-29-2011 at 09:34 AM.
Quote from Kabn :
not a parent, but the plan is to give them simple phones at a fairly young age so we can communicate with them when needed and they have something to call 911 with if they need it. the simple phone and plan will be paid for until they move out/turn 18, but if they want a nicer phone or more features, they'll have to pay for it.

as an aside: i'm going to sound like a curmudgeon, but based on a very small sample size, i don't want my kids having an advanced phone at an early age. my three cousins (ages 5-8 now) used to play with each other inside and outside and talk for hours when we got together at family functions. the father of one of them gave her his old Android-based phone to use as a media player (wifi, but no cell plan). he wanted her to get acquainted with technology at an early age so she wouldn't be left behind (she's home-schooled, and neither parent is very tech-savvy).

ever since she got that thing, her head has been buried in it every time i've been around her. she's either playing a game, watching/listening to media, or doing something else. she will do this while the other two kids are playing like they used to do. people will cry that it's the parents' job to make sure it's not overused, but honestly, if it's a phone, the kid will need to have it on them and usable the vast majority of the time, so they'll get dependent on it sooner or later.

i'm a technophile, but i see way too many people way too tied to their devices nowadays. if they can't check facebook every ten minutes, they go into withdrawal, and it can directly affect their relationships.
Honestly, part of the agreement when my older kid first got her cell phone was that she would be paying for part of the cell plan each month from her allowance. When she finally got texting last year, same thing goes, she pays for half of the $10/month. I can't see her asking for a data plan before she has a job, because then she'll basically have no allowance at all, unless she starts doing a lot more extra chores.
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teenbean
11-29-2011 at 10:12 AM.
11-29-2011 at 10:12 AM.
The families must be rich or spending money beyond their means. I have a hard time justifying getting a smart phone for myself and I'm 34 years old.
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11-29-2011 at 10:26 AM.
11-29-2011 at 10:26 AM.
Quote from LordOfChaos :
There are phones at school, there are phones at friends houses, there are phones at work. I never used a pay phone when there were no such things as cell phones, so I dont buy into that argument.

Also, everyone else has cell phones too. Borrow theirs.
Iagree I never had a cell phone, and none of my friends had them either, but somehow I managed laugh out loud Sometimes you have to use the teacher's phone, an office at the school might have a phone, if you're sick or something, I bet the school nurse has a phone. I went to visit friends, and they had house phones.

It might not be common now for there to be house phones, but if a kid is at a friend's house, a parent should be there, and they most likely have a phone. I didn't do extracurricular activities though, so I have no clue how any of that would work.
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11-29-2011 at 10:34 AM.
11-29-2011 at 10:34 AM.
I think I just feel like arguing today.
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11-29-2011 at 10:43 AM.
11-29-2011 at 10:43 AM.
Quote from Frogstar :
I think I just feel like arguing today.
No you don't
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11-29-2011 at 10:52 AM.
11-29-2011 at 10:52 AM.
Quote from ALVSGIRLY :
DS wants an iphone now. He's 5. We'll get him one someday but not anytime soon. I'm thinking of getting him an ipod now and giving him my ipad whenever I decide to upgrade mine.
OMG, what?! Why on earth would a 5-year-old need an ipod/iphone/ipad?


My 5-year-old doesn't even know what any of those are!
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11-29-2011 at 10:57 AM.
11-29-2011 at 10:57 AM.
Quote from ALVSGIRLY :
DS wants an iphone now. He's 5. We'll get him one someday but not anytime soon. I'm thinking of getting him an ipod now and giving him my ipad whenever I decide to upgrade mine.

That's not fair. That little fellow can use some help from siri.
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11-29-2011 at 11:03 AM.
11-29-2011 at 11:03 AM.
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No you don't
I might.
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11-29-2011 at 11:05 AM.
11-29-2011 at 11:05 AM.
Quote from Frogstar :
Not many pay phones around these days... how do you expect your kids to reach you when they're not at home? Band/sports practice doesn't end at the same time every day, and when they go to competitions, you aren't going to know exactly when to expect them to be back. I guess that's fine if you like sitting around waiting in parking lots.
Iagree

Once they hit high school and have tons of extra activities and whatnot, it makes sense.

I got one at 16, when I started driving (back when that's what cell phones were for - if you got stranded somewhere! laugh out loud) and I'd probably consider getting DS one around then.

Quote from LordOfChaos :
There are phones at school, there are phones at friends houses, there are phones at work.
Not anymore. Many people don't even have a land line in their house anymore, and the phones at my schools were always payphones. We didn't have any other phone you could use. I wouldn't be surprised if those were gone, too.

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I never used a pay phone when there were no such things as cell phones, so I dont buy into that argument.
I did all the time at school. And they are scarce nowadays. I can't even remember the last time I've seen a pay phone! laugh out loud

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Also, everyone else has cell phones too. Borrow theirs.
Didn't you just say kids don't need them? LMAO

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I don't think there are any publicly accessible phones at the school after hours.
This. nod

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I used pay phones plenty when there were no cell phones.
Same here. nod

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There are lots of valid reasons for a kid to have a cell phone, even if it's just a crappy pre-paid one.
Yeah, once they're older. Not in elementary school, though. There's kids at DS's school with cell phones, and I'm like... Rofl2

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But kids don't need cell phones Whee
Lol2

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It's amazing kids every found their way home before the invention of cell phones. Think of all the planning that went in to it!

Mom: "What time is band practice over?"

Son: "6:00"

Mom: "I'll pick you up at the front of the school at 6:03. If you're late....you're grounded."

Son: "Yes, ma'am. Sadwalk"
What if it ends early? Or runs late? Or what if the band teacher is sick, and practice is cancelled? Or what if he wants to go over to a friend's house?

There are dozens of different scenarios where it would be immensely helpful and a time saver.
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11-29-2011 at 11:05 AM.
11-29-2011 at 11:05 AM.
Quote from Frogstar :
I think I just feel like arguing today.
You tell 'em, Frog! Boxing

Quote from vec :
No you don't
Lol2

Trying to get him in the mood?
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11-29-2011 at 11:13 AM.
11-29-2011 at 11:13 AM.
Quote from IVIal :


What if it ends early? Or runs late? Or what if the band teacher is sick, and practice is cancelled? Or what if he wants to go over to a friend's house?

There are dozens of different scenarios where it would be immensely helpful and a time saver.
Never said it wasn't. I just consider myself lucky to survived an era where we didn't have cell phones. I almost didn't make it out alive.
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11-29-2011 at 11:15 AM.
11-29-2011 at 11:15 AM.
Quote from chewspam :
Never said it wasn't. I just consider myself lucky to survived an era where we didn't have cell phones. I almost didn't make it out alive.
Maybe you didn't.
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11-29-2011 at 11:19 AM.
11-29-2011 at 11:19 AM.
Quote from chewspam :
Never said it wasn't. I just consider myself lucky to survived an era where we didn't have cell phones. I almost didn't make it out alive.
Well sorry Chewy - we no longer use our feet to power cars, we don't have some really old wild boar underneath the sink as our garbage disposal, and we use heavy machinery now instead of dinosaurs.

Get used to it! Harhar
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11-29-2011 at 11:19 AM.
11-29-2011 at 11:19 AM.
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Maybe you didn't.
That would explain the smell... Scratchchin
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