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May 3, 2012 at
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Furious staff LOCK family inside restaurant for refusing to pay full 17% tip after bad service
A Houston family were locked inside a restaurant and the police were called after they refused to pay the full 17% tip.
That is the amount the restaurant adds to parties of more than five diners, but Mark's complaint was that the staff were rude, their drinks were not refilled and mistakes were made on their orders.
'We asked her, could the gratuity be removed?' said Marks.
'Could we give our own tip?
'I asked the police officer twice, maybe three times, is it against the law if we don't pay the gratuity and he never gave me a straight answer.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138736/Tipping-optional-Family-locked-restaurant-staff-refusing-pay-gratuity-bad-service.html
A Houston family were locked inside a restaurant and the police were called after they refused to pay the full 17% tip.
That is the amount the restaurant adds to parties of more than five diners, but Mark's complaint was that the staff were rude, their drinks were not refilled and mistakes were made on their orders.
'We asked her, could the gratuity be removed?' said Marks.
'Could we give our own tip?
'I asked the police officer twice, maybe three times, is it against the law if we don't pay the gratuity and he never gave me a straight answer.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2138736/Tipping-optional-Family-locked-restaurant-staff-refusing-pay-gratuity-bad-service.html
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Yet of all the people I have known over the years who have worked in a job where tips are a part of the pay I have never known anyone who didn't make a killing off of the tips. And in the majority of these cases the full amount of the tips is never reported as income so there is a huge savings on taxes unless you get caught.
All we hear about is "that one large group who screwed me on the tip". We never get to see the numbers from the prior 100 customers that lined the server's pockets with tax-free cash before that one bad table.
Face it, if you are waiting tables and not making a bunch more money than someone working the same number of hours in say, a job in retail, then you simply suck at your job and probably don't deserve tips.
Yet of all the people I have known over the years who have worked in a job where tips are a part of the pay I have never known anyone who didn't make a killing off of the tips. And in the majority of these cases the full amount of the tips is never reported as income so there is a huge savings on taxes unless you get caught.
All we hear about is "that one large group who screwed me on the tip". We never get to see the numbers from the prior 100 customers that lined the server's pockets with tax-free cash before that one bad table.
Face it, if you are waiting tables and not making a bunch more money than someone working the same number of hours in say, a job in retail, then you simply suck at your job and probably don't deserve tips.
good point. but it's also the restaurant and location that plays a big part too. i've worked at ruby tuesdays before and that place was slow as heck. i made okay money but it wasn't anything to brag about. them folks were cheap too. then i worked at a jap restaurant and thems where the killings came from. i made bank. rich folks definitely must of lived in that area. haha
and come to think of it. that ruby tuesdays definitely needed a "18% for parties of 1 or more"!! hahaha. seriously that place was kind of sad though. they always had a now hiring sign out in the front too for many years because people never stuck around (i think it's still there!). it definitely wasn't good money.
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Yet of all the people I have known over the years who have worked in a job where tips are a part of the pay I have never known anyone who didn't make a killing off of the tips. And in the majority of these cases the full amount of the tips is never reported as income so there is a huge savings on taxes unless you get caught.
All we hear about is "that one large group who screwed me on the tip". We never get to see the numbers from the prior 100 customers that lined the server's pockets with tax-free cash before that one bad table.
Face it, if you are waiting tables and not making a bunch more money than someone working the same number of hours in say, a job in retail, then you simply suck at your job and probably don't deserve tips.
wow so many haters here. i only came here to debate. i then get called troll, and then fool, and then.. what's next haters?
Yet of all the people I have known over the years who have worked in a job where tips are a part of the pay I have never known anyone who didn't make a killing off of the tips. And in the majority of these cases the full amount of the tips is never reported as income so there is a huge savings on taxes unless you get caught.
All we hear about is "that one large group who screwed me on the tip". We never get to see the numbers from the prior 100 customers that lined the server's pockets with tax-free cash before that one bad table.
Face it, if you are waiting tables and not making a bunch more money than someone working the same number of hours in say, a job in retail, then you simply suck at your job and probably don't deserve tips.
If you had work done by a technician to fix your dvd player and he wrote a bill for $99 dollars and you felt he only deserved $75 then i'm sure there is a law against not paying the full bill. This can argued in the same manner in the justice system for the service charges put in restaurant.
I'm not saying i'm 100% right but you can't deny the fact that there are many ways the outcome could go.
If you had work done by a technician to fix your dvd player and he wrote a bill for $99 dollars and you felt he only deserved $75 then i'm sure there is a law against not paying the full bill. This can argued in the same manner in the justice system for the service charges put in restaurant.
I'm not saying i'm 100% right but you can't deny the fact that there are many ways the outcome could go.
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in this particular case, the line item for the restaurant bill would be drink, food, service charge for large group.
same thing. it's like how you order a pizza to be delivered and they tack on a delivery charge. it's a part of the "ordering" of the pizza. you can tip out the delivery guy separately. but if you get it delivered and you try to refute the delivery charge, you will lose in a court of law. there's no "specific" law that says you have to pay the delivery charge. it's common sense you have to and if you don't you will get in trouble. same thing with service charge in a restaurant. not really that hard to follow.