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Problem with landscaper

646 48 October 3, 2012 at 02:06 PM
Hi everyone,
I have been a long-time user of this forum and am very impressed with the cumulative knowledge presented here. I am presenting my situation here in hope that the fellow SDers may have a solution or advise for me. I am not sure if this is the right forum so please move it to the appropriate one if you see fit

I bought a house and wanted to do some small landscaping improvement. I asked around and somebody gave me a name and phone number of a guy who contracts landscaping in the area. I called the guy up and he came and gave me an estimate of $3,500 for the landscaping. It includes redoing the existing 3 planters and put shields between the planters and the house, plant 3 full-size King palms in 2 different areas with flower beds under the trees, plant 7 Queen palms and flower beds, run irrigation system with automatic controller throughout the yards, create a 5' wide walk-way of stamped concrete for bringing the trash in and out of the yard, and finally fill the yard with mulch. He also indicated that he would take care of all the little extra things to make sure that it look great to my satisfaction. He will provide everything including trees, flowers, mulch, concrete, hauling dirt in and out, all inclusive. He told me he will complete in 3 days. He said that he is just glad he has a job in this economy. He sounds nice and the deal appears to be good so I accepted it. He said that it is a small job and I really don't need to create a formal contract. He asked for $1,000 deposit and I gave it to him.
The next day, he already had the yard dug up multiple holes "in preparation for tree planting" and laid down irrigation pipes. At this point, he asked for $500 more to buy the trees. I gave it to him. He stated that the yard is so large that I needed to fill-in with fruit trees to make it nicer but it was not in the agreement so I had to pay for them. I went ahead and bought 14 small fruit trees and gave it to him and he planted the same day. At this point, he stated that he needed $700 more to buy the mulch and pay for the concrete and he would finish the job the next day. Impressed with everything so far, I gave him $700 as he asked.

Over the next few days, he no showed. I called him on several occasions and he states that he will get it done the next day but again, no showed. This continues over the next several weeks of no-show. I have contacted him many times over the phone and messages. He started not answering the phone and occasionally when I do get him, he always apologized and states that it will be done that same weekend. Well, it has been 6 weeks and by now I realize that he will never come.

To summarize: I paid a guy who I only know his first name and phone number so far $2,200 and he only laid down water pipes and planted some trees that I bought, then now stopped coming. I know, I should have known better and got a written contract but I really thought that it was a small job and the guy was so happy just to have a job in this economy. Anyhow, I am at this point so furious at the guy lying so blatantly knowing that he is not coming, leaving me dragged on forever while my yard is all dug up and ugly. I have decided to hire another contractor this coming weekend to finish the job. I, however, wanted to know from my fellow SDers if there are anything I could do to get the guy to pay back. Or at least track him down and warns others about this guy. Your help is well appreciated. Sorry for the long post but I wanted to present all the details.

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Joe Davola
10-04-2012 at 07:28 AM.
10-04-2012 at 07:28 AM.
Quote from chewspam :
I use one of these so that my banana hammock doesn't look like it's wrapped in a scarf.



Is this the manscaper spoof thread? Confused
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PaintTheSkyGrey
10-04-2012 at 07:31 AM.
10-04-2012 at 07:31 AM.
Is OP a man that prefers OB tampons?
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chevvy
10-04-2012 at 08:03 AM.
10-04-2012 at 08:03 AM.
Quote from Joe Davola :
Is this the manscaper spoof thread? Confused

Well what with a giant tree growing in middle of the lawn I may as refer to it as landscaping.
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idkist
10-04-2012 at 08:21 AM.
10-04-2012 at 08:21 AM.
Quote from Jabbit :
I'll sum up Lounger's resposes to save you some time.

- someone will do a QPLR
- someone will say "shouldn't have hired mexicans"
- several will start off by saying "I am not a lawyer, but..." followed by a personal anecdote and ending by suggesting small claims court
- someone will suggest arson
- may or may not have a cat picture on the first page
- you will get some legitimate helpful advice after about 10-15 posts by others.
- a spoof "problem with manscaper" or similar will show up.

This is pretty much 95% of the threads here in The Lounge.
You forgot the tl;dr, or a tl;dr followed by some random advice on the matter or possibly a random comment on a different matter.
/edit Doh this was already mentioned

You also forgot to mention the eventual nagin/alvs Thread Jacked to talk about football, or to otherwise continue the e-fair
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Piccaboo
10-04-2012 at 09:14 AM.
10-04-2012 at 09:14 AM.
Sounds like Shady Maple Landscaping to me; I just got a mailer in the mail yesterday and it had a blacked out picture of a man next to a tree he was going to plant; and I though OMFG this must be the same person who did OP's work. I'm shredding this instantly, as I'm sure if I call, they will just keep asking me for more and more money, but never let me sign a contract EEK! EEK! EEK!
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Frogstar
10-04-2012 at 09:38 AM.
10-04-2012 at 09:38 AM.
Maybe he was kidnapped by aliens.
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billythebulldog
10-04-2012 at 10:09 AM.
10-04-2012 at 10:09 AM.
Lesson learned...have a nice day.
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obman
10-04-2012 at 02:05 PM.
10-04-2012 at 02:05 PM.
Quote from Jabbit :
I'll sum up Lounger's resposes to save you some time.

- someone will do a QPLR
- someone will say "shouldn't have hired mexicans"
- several will start off by saying "I am not a lawyer, but..." followed by a personal anecdote and ending by suggesting small claims court
- someone will suggest arson
- may or may not have a cat picture on the first page
- you will get some legitimate helpful advice after about 10-15 posts by others.
- a spoof "problem with manscaper" or similar will show up.

This is pretty much 95% of the threads here in The Lounge.
More than 10 replies later and I guess you are correct. You have already summed up everything. Time to move on.
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randomman1
10-04-2012 at 02:52 PM.
10-04-2012 at 02:52 PM.
You might be able to find out exactly who he is with a reverse phone lookup.
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obman
10-04-2012 at 05:51 PM.
10-04-2012 at 05:51 PM.
Quote from randomman1 :
You might be able to find out exactly who he is with a reverse phone lookup.
Thank you for a very helpful post. I tried it (the paid one) but came up empty. Humm, this guy is a pro. He got me hooked as the first day was fast and dead on. Then he got me to trust him and gave him more money.

New update: I sent him a text message that I am reporting him to the police and IRS. He immediately replied that he will do the work today and tomorrow. Then today, there was a truck load of dirt dumped in the drive way then disappeared. Will see if he does any work tomorrow. Anyhow, I am hopeful. I have instructed my people to take a picture of the license plate if they see him coming.
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vaultaddict
10-04-2012 at 05:53 PM.
10-04-2012 at 05:53 PM.
Quote from obman :
Thank you for a very helpful post. I tried it (the paid one) but came up empty. Humm, this guy is a pro. He got me hooked as the first day was fast and dead on. Then he got me to trust him and gave him more money.

New update: I sent him a text message that I am reporting him to the police and IRS. He immediately replied that he will do the work today and tomorrow. Then today, there was a truck load of dirt dumped in the drive way then disappeared. Will see if he does any work tomorrow. Anyhow, I am hopeful. I have instructed my people to take a picture of the license plate if they see him coming.
Well why didn't you just have " your people" do the work in the first place?
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obman
10-04-2012 at 05:57 PM.
10-04-2012 at 05:57 PM.
Quote from vaultaddict :
Well why didn't you just have " your people" do the work in the first place?
one 60 year old woman and a 25 year old girl and a 4 year old boy. Not exactly the yard working type.
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BostonGirl
10-04-2012 at 05:58 PM.
10-04-2012 at 05:58 PM.
Quote from obman :
Thank you for a very helpful post. I tried it (the paid one) but came up empty. Humm, this guy is a pro. He got me hooked as the first day was fast and dead on. Then he got me to trust him and gave him more money.

New update: I sent him a text message that I am reporting him to the police and IRS. He immediately replied that he will do the work today and tomorrow. Then today, there was a truck load of dirt dumped in the drive way then disappeared. Will see if he does any work tomorrow. Anyhow, I am hopeful. I have instructed my people to take a picture of the license plate if they see him coming.
laugh out loud you have people?
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calistyle
10-04-2012 at 05:59 PM.
10-04-2012 at 05:59 PM.
Quote from obman :
one 60 year old woman and a 25 year old girl and a 4 year old boy. Not exactly the yard working type.
4-year-old boy?
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vaultaddict
10-04-2012 at 06:01 PM.
10-04-2012 at 06:01 PM.
Quote from obman :
one 60 year old woman and a 25 year old girl and a 4 year old boy. Not exactly the yard working type.
Stinking child labor laws...

Go RP.
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