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11.6" Huion KAMVAS Pro 12 Drawing Tablet w/ Battery-Free Stylus (GT-116)

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HUION via Amazon has 11.6" Huion KAMVAS Pro 12 Drawing Tablet with Battery-Free Stylus (GT-116) on sale for $229 - $30 clippable coupon = $199. Shipping is free. Thanks odbal

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Amazon has the HUION KAMVAS Pro 12 Drawing Display Tablet on sale for $199 when you "clip" the $30.00 coupon. Item is sold by the official HUION seller account, shipped by Amazon.

Warning: there is another version being sold by "Huion" (not all caps) for $2 less, but the seller has far fewer ratings than the official page and the location address differs (China vs Delaware). Uncertain whether products sold by them would be warrantied, so check the "Sold By" carefully. Adding to the cart from seller HUION triggers an extended warranty offer, whereas adding from seller Huion does not.

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FYI to linux users, HUION drivers are not supported. Also some youtube video scouring, they have a proprietary design on a USB C cable so that many wont fit in their port hole. Kinda weird they'd do that.

HUION tablets are great cheap alternatives, but they don't work for linux which is their only major downside.
I'm a high school graphic design teacher, & while keyboard & mouse is fine, it is a great introductory tool, & can mimic brush movements. Brush strokes/movements on a mouse vs a stylus will yield different results, & you can apply "pressure" to a stylus, where as a mouse you can not. (Think grabbing a graphite pencil...when you hold it down with light pressure, it makes a light stroke/mark. Now when you apply a bit more pressure, it gives a darker stroke/mark/impression. You'll also get the affects of tapered strokes. Think thin to thicker lines, created from pressure setting & use of the stylus/tablet combo) Also, ever since you've been born, its only fitting and natural to use something our hands are accustomed to, in this case a pen/pencil, hence the similar feeling and shape the stylus.
Prior to me becoming a teacher, I did product and portrait retouching on a Wacom tablet.
A great alternative to to this tablet is Parblo [amazon.com] too. Good luck.
I've been using drawing tablets for the past 5 years as well as ipads/android tablets.
Some advantages to a display tablet like this one:

Runs off your computer, thus can ran computer-based software like full Adobe Photoshop and other drawing software. Typically performs better.
The pen is made specifically for drawing and would normally have more drawing support (different nib textures, pen pressure, tilt controls, eraser end, buttons). Apple pencil has some of these features but is costly itself (about half the price of this tablet).
Etched/laminated glass creates a more tactile surface, mimicking paper. IPads and android tablets are smooth glass, which feels slick to draw on (less control). You can, however, use a matte screen protector.
Color accuracy is usually better (ipads/android tablets normally saturate their displays).
On-display buttons allow for customization of common drawing shortcuts (undo, cropping, etc). The tactile sensory is better than on-screen shortcuts.

Disadvantages:

Runs off your computer thus cannot be standalone and portable (unless used with a laptop, but you'll have a bunch of wires everywhere). Your computer also has to be decently spec'd if you want the tablet to perform well.
Software can be tricky, even with higher-end brands like Wacom.
Takes up more desk space, especially with wires.

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10-23-2020 at 11:16 AM.
10-23-2020 at 11:16 AM.
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When you draw something with this tablet, the CCP will see it.
Haha! That's Huawei.
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10-23-2020 at 11:18 AM.
10-23-2020 at 11:18 AM.
Quote from basematti :
I bought the 16" for my daughter this spring after spending a week doing hardcore research and side by side comparisons with Wacom, Ipad, and some other tablet manufacturers. After using it myself for a while I can see the perks in action, especially how the calibration doesn't drift as you get near the edge of the drawing surface. Also, 16" is close to a standard paper size so it feels very natural. 13" would be an excellent size too, especially for younger kids with shorter reach. I used to use a giant Cintique at work and my shoulder would start to hurt from stretching my arm (big gestures) so I found myself only really using about 30% of the surface so my elbow stayed in one position. A tip for transitioning to digital illustration is to do your pencil sketches traditionally, with paper/pencil. Then take a pic/scan into photoshop to do linework and shading digitally. It allows for the mobility/spontaneity to 'draw' anywhere anytime but then you focus at the workstation to build out a complex digital illustration. My daughter absolutely loves it and is working on finishing her first real manga that we're going to take to print.
Great tip! Thanks!
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Riboflav1n
10-23-2020 at 11:24 AM.
10-23-2020 at 11:24 AM.
OK, so I've looked at the 12, 13, and 16 pro and non-pro, and the only one that seems to come with the new 517 pen is the 13 non-pro. I'm not familiar enough to know if that should be a major part of my decision, or whether I'm giving up a lot by going with the non-pro vs the pro.
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SamuelN4656
10-23-2020 at 12:15 PM.
10-23-2020 at 12:15 PM.
I have this same model. I love you draw and this was my first drawing monitor and I love it. It is dependent of a PC so just keep that in mind.
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10-23-2020 at 12:15 PM.
10-23-2020 at 12:15 PM.
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When you draw something with this tablet, the CCP will see it.
I hope they like seeing crudely drawn pp's.
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10-23-2020 at 12:17 PM.
10-23-2020 at 12:17 PM.
I'm a designer that's been using sketch tablets such as wacoms for a long time prior to them being screens (ie - the cintiq line), also used the cintiq's and now have been using an iPad pro for sketch and design work. I can give you my personal take on any pro's/con's of this vs. a tablet.

Here's the answer:
Unless there's a program that is only available on your PC vs a tablet OR if the tablet/mobile version of a program is severely handicapped vs. the desktop equivalent, there's really no huge reason not to spend more to get an all inclusive tablet.

The smoothness of the screen vs. the feel of a Wacom can someone be mitigated with a screen laminate called 'paperlike' which I've been using. It feels much better but does add a bit of matte finish to the screen so that nice iPad retina is diminished somewhat due to it.

Otherwise the freedom of being able to take the drawing pad and not have a laptop tied to it is too much of an advantage to get a drawing tablet such as this.

Or if the cost is dramatically different and you need something. Like someone here mentioned, the cost of an Apple Pencil is almost the price of this product, so if you're on a budget and can be on with being tethered to a desktop/laptop then this may be a good solution but if you can get a tablet with a good stylus (such as the Apple Pencil) then I say go for a tablet and skip this.
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10-23-2020 at 01:27 PM.
10-23-2020 at 01:27 PM.
Quote from Riboflav1n :
OK, so I've looked at the 12, 13, and 16 pro and non-pro, and the only one that seems to come with the new 517 pen is the 13 non-pro. I'm not familiar enough to know if that should be a major part of my decision, or whether I'm giving up a lot by going with the non-pro vs the pro.

Would be interested in knowing this as well.
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10-23-2020 at 01:48 PM.
10-23-2020 at 01:48 PM.
Quote from Riboflav1n :
OK, so I've looked at the 12, 13, and 16 pro and non-pro, and the only one that seems to come with the new 517 pen is the 13 non-pro. I'm not familiar enough to know if that should be a major part of my decision, or whether I'm giving up a lot by going with the non-pro vs the pro.
Quote from intromission :
Would be interested in knowing this as well.
Well, according to the product page [huion.com] on Huion's website and the Amazon listing [amazon.com] from the official seller HUION (not Huion, which lists a China address and has far fewer seller ratings), the PW517 only presently works with the 13, 22, 22 Plus, and Pro 24. Personally, I think it's a bit ridiculous to release a "revolutionary" new pen with such limited product support, especially among their pro line. I haven't tried the two side-by-side, but apparently not many others have either...the listing from the official Amazon seller has zero reviews, and the one written on the page from the seller Huion (who nobody knows whether they are official) says it works great when it works, but that it's had multiple issues [amazon.com]. No telling if that's because the product actually has issues or that seller is peddling knock-offs.

So I guess the real question is whether you're willing to sacrifice the other good aspects of the pro model and settle for a tried & tested pen with years of solid Amazon reviews [amazon.com], or be an early adopter of new tech while sacrificing some of the perks in the tablet itself. Personally, I'll be waiting to see if they add support for the new pen across more tablets with firmware updates. If it never comes to the 12, oh well, but if it does, I can pick one up for $50 (or less...it's 20% off right now), provided it seems worth it once reviews start rolling in to show whether it lives up to HUION's hype.
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Ricerx
10-23-2020 at 03:09 PM.
10-23-2020 at 03:09 PM.
I recently looked at this tablet but settled on an XP Pen Artist 12 for my kiddo. It's currently the same price (I got it for $10 less at the time) and seems to be reviewed as a much better tablet with over 3300 reviews. One advantage the Huion has over the XP Pen is the pen tilt feature. The XP Pen does not have that unless you buy the higher model.

Reviews on YT
https://youtu.be/ELta6WVVtNY

https://youtu.be/BMia1CylbJI

Link on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GNK1...UTF8&psc=1

Here's a picture she just started (2nd time using a drawing tablet). She's almost 11 yrs old and picked up using this very quickly. She drew it on FireAlpaca and now learning to use it on PhotoShop CS6
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10-23-2020 at 03:48 PM.
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Quote from JohnnyQuest007 :
I'm a high school graphic design teacher, & while keyboard & mouse is fine, it is a great introductory tool, & can mimic brush movements. Brush strokes/movements on a mouse vs a stylus will yield different results, & you can apply "pressure" to a stylus, where as a mouse you can not. (Think grabbing a graphite pencil...when you hold it down with light pressure, it makes a light stroke/mark. Now when you apply a bit more pressure, it gives a darker stroke/mark/impression. You'll also get the affects of tapered strokes. Think thin to thicker lines, created from pressure setting & use of the stylus/tablet combo) Also, ever since you've been born, its only fitting and natural to use something our hands are accustomed to, in this case a pen/pencil, hence the similar feeling and shape the stylus.
Prior to me becoming a teacher, I did product and portrait retouching on a Wacom tablet.
A great alternative to to this tablet is Parblo [amazon.com] too. Good luck.
can I make another little comment being a professional artist who draws and creates 3d models, for a kid, I would say the better option is an older pencil capable ipad with something like the Duet app (for windows specifically) as it's more flexible and I find provides a great mix between the capabilities of a dedicated tablet screen and a device you can run different apps on.

however specifically for 3d and some more intense 2d workflows I prefer the pens that come with wacom and huion type screens, as they have side buttons that function as mouse buttons.

Brad Colebow on youtube reviews these non wacom drawing screens often.
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10-23-2020 at 04:05 PM.
10-23-2020 at 04:05 PM.
Quote from Ricerx :
I recently looked at this tablet but settled on an XP Pen Artist 12 for my kiddo. It's currently the same price (I got it for $10 less at the time) and seems to be reviewed as a much better tablet with over 3300 reviews. One advantage the Huion has over the XP Pen is the pen tilt feature. The XP Pen does not have that unless you buy the higher model.

Reviews on YT
https://youtu.be/ELta6WVVtNY

https://youtu.be/BMia1CylbJI

Link on Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GNK1...UTF8&psc=1

Here's a picture she just started (2nd time using a drawing tablet). She's almost 11 yrs old and picked up using this very quickly. She drew it on FireAlpaca and now learning to use it on PhotoShop CS6

Lack of pen tilt is an immediate deal breaker for the type of art I do, but for those who don't need it, this is definitely a good deal.
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10-23-2020 at 04:33 PM.
10-23-2020 at 04:33 PM.
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Hmmmm...I would prefer my own stand, but it ships from another seller in China as opposed to Huion in Delaware. .
That's the one I bought. It was prime shipping for me. Hadn't had a problem with it.
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10-23-2020 at 06:35 PM.
10-23-2020 at 06:35 PM.
Quote from JohnnyQuest007 :
I'm a high school graphic design teacher, & while keyboard & mouse is fine, it is a great introductory tool, & can mimic brush movements. Brush strokes/movements on a mouse vs a stylus will yield different results, & you can apply "pressure" to a stylus, where as a mouse you can not. (Think grabbing a graphite pencil...when you hold it down with light pressure, it makes a light stroke/mark. Now when you apply a bit more pressure, it gives a darker stroke/mark/impression. You'll also get the affects of tapered strokes. Think thin to thicker lines, created from pressure setting & use of the stylus/tablet combo) Also, ever since you've been born, its only fitting and natural to use something our hands are accustomed to, in this case a pen/pencil, hence the similar feeling and shape the stylus.
Prior to me becoming a teacher, I did product and portrait retouching on a Wacom tablet.
A great alternative to to this tablet is Parblo [amazon.com] too. Good luck.
They asked about the Huion compared to an iPad + Apple Pencil. What does a mouse have to do with anything?
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10-24-2020 at 04:17 AM.
10-24-2020 at 04:17 AM.
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I would get her a surface pro. I know its 3x the price, but for a 15yo artist its a great investment, also replaces the need for the laptop.

Mixed feelings here. I have a surface pro and while I love it, there are some drawbacks. The biggest being that for decent performance, you'll need to be looking into one of the higher spec surfaces... And they are expensive! Since there's no upgrading them, you're stuck with what you have I would wager you can get this tablet and a laptop with similar specifications for the same price. People have already mentioned the slippery screen, but I really miss the physical buttons on my intuos tablet. Plus, the screen size can be limiting, and it gets pretty warm while drawing on it. If you're serious, it's nice to have multiple monitors so you can have references up, zoomed views, etc.
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10-24-2020 at 06:53 AM.
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If you go the iPad route, I highly recommend getting Affinity Photo for iPad. IMHO, it's the best photo drawing and manipulation app around for any tablet device. I wish they made it for Android too. Also, Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo are both outstanding apps, that I use almost daily as a web designer. I like Affinity much more than Adobe, and Affinity apps can do some things that Adobe can't. Lastly, Affinity will likely have both Designer and Photo on sale for 50% off, or $25 USD each, for Black Friday. Again, IMHO, that makes these apps a must have. For me, I no longer shackle myself to Adobe's avarice, but to each their own. It also depends what apps you need, whether you are working with others in a production environment, and so forth. Although, Affinity is completely compatible with Adobe formats.
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