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Select LA/SF Dealers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15k Fuel Card

after Tax Credits & Incentives (Select Locations)

$23,100

$52,408

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Select Eligible Toyota Dealers [Dealer Locator] located in Los Angeles / San Francisco, California are offering to Qualifying Customers: 2021 Toyota Mirai Hydrogen Fuel Cell Car + $15,000 in Complimentary Fuel for 2yrs with 0% APR for 72-Months for as low as $23,108 after Incentives and Tax Credits. Pricing and availability may vary depending on your location, consult your local eligible dealership for more information.
  • Note: Offer is valid at select participating Los Angeles / San Francisco, California locations only. Refer to the forum thread for additional deal details and discussion.
Thank to community member ExtremeOak for and reddit user XIIXOO for finding this deal.

Deal Details:
  1. Visit your local eligible Toyota Norcal Dealer [Dealer Locator]
  2. Shop for a eligible 2021 Toyota Mirai model that qualifies for the TFS Cash offer and Fuel Card offer mentioned on the page here
    • Note: Qualified buyers can finance a new 2021 Mirai at 0% APR for 72 Months.
  3. Apply for and purchase a qualifying model with prices starting from ~$50,408 (may vary by location)
  4. Toyota Cash Discount will deduct $20,000 from your total
  5. You will receive a $4,500 CA Tax Credit (more info)
  6. You will receive a $8,000 Federal Tax Credit (more info)
  7. You will also receive a Complimentary Fuel Card valid for up to 2 years or $15,000 of fuel (more info)
  8. Your total after incentives and tax credits will be as low as $23,108 and will vary depending on your location and model selection.
Additional Details:

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • We put this up due to popularity and the great discussion from our members in the comments that really highlights the spirit of the community. As a deal editing team we recognize the limited availability of this offer however
  • About this Deal:
    • Offer include a no cost maintenance plan with the purchase or lease of every new Toyota for 3 years or 35,000 miles, whichever comes first. 24-hour roadside assistance is also included for 3 years and unlimited miles
    • Terms:
      • 0% APR for 72 monthly payments of $13.89 for every $1,000 financed. Terms available on approved credit For only very well qualified customers/lessees through participating Toyota dealers and Toyota Financial Services (TFS). Cash offer must be applied toward required down payment amount or percentage. No down payment required if qualified for advertised offer. If you do not qualify for the offer, the amount and percentage of any down payment vary with your credit qualifications. There is no cash back option. Dealer contribution may vary and could affect price. Individual dealer prices, other terms and offers may vary. Must take retail delivery from dealer's stock and terms subject to vehicle availability. Cannot be combined with TFS Lease Cash, Customer Cash, Lease, Lease Subvention Cash. See your participating Toyota dealer for details. Offer available in CA regardless of buyer's residency; void where prohibited. Expires 03-31-2021. Toyota Financial Services is a service mark used by Toyota Motor Credit Corporation.
      • Customers who lease a 2021 Mirai will receive complimentary fuel for three years or $15,000, whichever comes first. Customers who purchase or finance a 2021 Mirai through June 30, 2021 receive an additional three years to use the $15,000 of fuel. Complimentary fuel term begins as of card activation or 90 days after the Mirai lease or purchase commencement date, whichever is earlier. Fuel card is nontransferable. The Mirai is a hydrogen-powered fuel cell electric vehicle that must be fueled at hydrogen stations conforming to the standards. See https://cafcp.org/stationmap for current hydrogen fueling station locations.

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Ponzi
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I went to Hamer Toyota and they had balls to mark those up 3k plus 1k gps add-on. Came to $56.5k with no negotiation because stimulus money is here and dealers wants it all. Sad state
ExtremeOak
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Hydrogen Fuel cell is exempt from CA rebate income limits.

"The income cap applies for all eligible vehicle types except fuel-cell electric vehicles."

Source: cleanvehiclerebate.org/eng/requirements/1470
sawman5
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Slow car, 0-60 is 9.3 sec

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mjuevos
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this with the $15k fuel card would be perfect for gig workers
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jimx200
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Quote from BlackMountain123 :
Most people want that, including my Democrat family. BUT, the problem with the real fiscal conservatives is that they come with other baggage like virus denial, pathetic Trump loyalism (Donald Trump, of all people. Imagine how stupid someone has to be...), anti-science tendencies, etc.
You paint with a very broad brush. Denial? Like what Faucchi said about the virus a year ago: the virus is nothing to worry about and masks don't work. Half the voters supported Trump and like or dislike him, our GDP was at record levels, government pared back, record low unemployment (same with record unemployment for black/hispanic), dramatically lowered illegals from entering the US, rolled back taxes for citizens and corporations, more. I get it that your a dem/leftist, but your party is all about more govt control, higher taxes, late term abortion, hate charter schools, defund the police, green deal that kills jobs, make friends with China our enemy, Obama care disaster, more.
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Duke-GlobeTrotter
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Quote from PyRo1509 :
For #2: hydrogen will never be cheap and unless there's a huge political shift it won't be green. The cheapest way to make hydrogen is by natural gas that produces CO2. The greenest but most expensive way is by solar panels, which the process losses 50% of the energy, thus will always cost at least 2x (this is if storage and transportation was free, it will never be) of BEV. Hydrogen is a bad energy storage solution for cars (and nearly everything else).

As for not knowing many who are full BEV; Hello, nice to meet you. I've got two Tesla's and no gas car. One with 110k miles and the other with 40k. I've driven them across the country. Stayed at Airbnb's. I'm not going to lie and say everything is the same as a gas car. But on the long trips where there's been a few inconveniences it's been outweighed by not having to fill up the gas tank biweekly.

Hydrogen stations will never be prime time because they will never be popular and always be expensive. I did research on this once about the cost of a filling station. Hydrogen was $1m to build one and an 8 car supercharger was $80k (this was a decade ago, but in my view nothing has changed). The economics will kill hydrogen every time.

In short: this car is a bad deal for life. The only thought I had for this deal was if the cost was low enough could I actually sell it for scrap and make $$.
I mentioned one BEV/FCEV as one only car. Having two is fine. I have. FCEV and BEV. Tesla supercharger network is proven and works.

I agree that hydrogen has an enormous to uphill battle this my many warnings in my post about knowing what you are getting and not expect things that most likely will not come to fruition.
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Duke-GlobeTrotter
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I would say to consider this great deal on the Mirai FCEV is like considering a great deal on a boat. Maybe a luxury option that works for the few but not practical and realistic for most. Be realistic.
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80is
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Quote from BraveDime9640 :
I build and test fuel cells for a living. I can tell you right now, for cars, at present time fuel cells don't make sense. (As much as I want to buy and hold a deal like this haha.) But for commercial, the advantages of energy density vs weight are almost exponential.
i know it makes more sense for give items like airplanes and trucks . . . but what about small items like cellphone?
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80is
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Quote from th3g3ntl3man :
That's fine, but doesn't change the fact that this is a great deal if you live near the fueling stations.
many factors come to pay here. if you are an uber driver it may be a great deal, for others the breakeven point may make this deal not a great deal.

factors to consider:
  • maintenance cost
  • repair cost
  • pars cost
  • if you live near the fueling station
  • if you never travel anyplace outside of the fuel cell radius
  • if technology fails in 5 years, you just spent a lot of $ on nothing

too much risk to get your investment back unless you drive a lot, and have a station next to you.
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Quote from 80is :
i know it makes more sense for give items like airplanes and trucks . . . but what about small items like cellphone?
My boss used to work with a company at, mti, they did small power packs for things like cellphones. Great military applications but far from economical. But sometimes money is no object. As the tech advances in general, it will open up many consumer level avenues. Unfortunately and fortunately, Elon is dominating the ev scene. Fuel cells typical need a small battery buffer anyway. Hopefully Elon deals with the rare earth mining and refines the battery tech otherwise we're starting wars in other countries all over again over raw materials.

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Quote from BlackMountain123 :
Most people want that, including my Democrat family. BUT, the problem with the real fiscal conservatives is that they come with other baggage like virus denial, pathetic Trump loyalism (Donald Trump, of all people. Imagine how stupid someone has to be...), anti-science tendencies, etc.
You're wrong. Most people don't want that. If that were true, we'd have it by popular vote. The problem is poor people want handouts and rich people (aka Big Tech) don't mind handing them out because the real money is made from dependence. These forces combined then control the vote and put these horrible people in power. Middle class folks like me and probably you and jimx are the useful idiots that are being distracted by issues of overexaggerated importance while our wallets and account are being slowly bled dry to support the dependence of the poor and the agendas of the rich.
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Duke-GlobeTrotter
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Quote from 80is :
many factors come to pay here. if you are an uber driver it may be a great deal, for others the breakeven point may make this deal not a great deal.

factors to consider:
  • maintenance cost
  • repair cost
  • pars cost
  • if you live near the fueling station
  • if you never travel anyplace outside of the fuel cell radius
  • if technology fails in 5 years, you just spent a lot of $ on nothing

too much risk to get your investment back unless you drive a lot, and have a station next to you.
The warranty on this car is generous.

1) This is FCEV so the maintenance is very close to a regular BEV, plus the air filter.

2) First two years of maintenance, mainly inspections and tire rotation is included

3) Warranty:
a) 36 Months / 36K Basic
b) Powertrain: 60m/60K
c) Fuel Cell System: 96m/100K
d) Restraint Systems: 60m/60K
e) Corrosion Perforation: 60m/unlimited

This car like any other car, even more so, is not an investment but a liability.

FCEV is a luxury option for those that want it and meets these many logistical and personal requirements.

If you have doubts about your commitment, do NOT get this deal or any other FCEV. Run away as fast as you can. I highly urge people to NOT get this FCEV or any FCEV car unless you've done your research and am certain this prototype is for you.
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Duke-GlobeTrotter
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Quote from Duke-GlobeTrotter :
The warranty on this car is generous.

1) This is FCEV so the maintenance is very close to a regular BEV, plus the air filter.

2) First two years of maintenance, mainly inspections and tire rotation is included

3) Warranty:
a) 36 Months / 36K Basic
b) Powertrain: 60m/60K
c) Fuel Cell System: 96m/100K
d) Restraint Systems: 60m/60K
e) Corrosion Perforation: 60m/unlimited

This car like any other car, even more so, is not an investment but a liability.

FCEV is a luxury option for those that want it and meets these many logistical and personal requirements.

If you have doubts about your commitment, do NOT get this deal or any other FCEV. Run away as fast as you can. I highly urge people to NOT get this FCEV or any FCEV car unless you've done your research and am certain this prototype is for you.
Toyota does after an extended warranty on the Mirai for 96m/100K for $2.18K. I am on the fence about keeping it as I have 60days to cancel and get a full refund.

I intended to cancel it but as I drive it more, the more I just enjoy driving it.
Last edited by Duke-GlobeTrotter March 20, 2021 at 01:09 PM.
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bondo123
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Quote from bondo123 :
using my zipcode in bay area, truecar.com shows XLE has a 24670 market average with all weather mat (highly recommended option), show to the dealer they should at least price match, plus tax is 27137, after federal tax credit 4502 and state rebate (max 3500) and utitlity rebate 900 = 18235

https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/en...e-vehicles [cleanvehiclerebate.org]

https://cleanfuelreward.com/find-your-ev/eligible-electric-cars

last date to submit state rebate for prime is 4-5-2021 as it's not longer qualified after that date, $1000 is regular rebate, $2500 extra for low income household, if you don't quality, you can add a relative to title whose income qualifies for the extra 2500, he/she can then file for the $3500 rebate, they only look at income situation for the the person who files for the rebate

as you said , this is sick deal, and this is for the XLE, LE would be even cheaper, yes the mirai is more premium but for practical purpose the prime is much better....the mirai station near me was offline last week I checked.....

I bought 2019 and 2020, this is the lowest after tax credit/rebate price, I don't know why toyota is having a whopping $5000 cash back until 3-31, maybe there is a new style coming out next year with 50 electric miles ? .... to give you perspective, I sold the the 2020 XLE to dealer for 24500 August last year, and now six months later you can get for 18000 after all possible rebates !! BEST deal !!
forget to mention this "cash for clunker" program for lower income folks.... only apply to certain zip codes, have a pre-2006 car to replace, and have to purchase from designated dealerships, with max rebate of $9500 for plug in hybrid like the prime or fuel cell....their example had the manufacturer rebate at $1500, but with current $ 5000 toyota cashback until 3-31, it'll be a $ 9000 truly slick "prime" deal for those lucky ones who qualify for the maximum rebates

https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/lct/vehiclescrap.htm​ [ca.gov]

https://www.baaqmd.gov/~/media/la....pdf?la=en
Last edited by bondo123 March 20, 2021 at 01:15 PM.
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outsidethebox
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Quote from jimx200 :
You paint with a very broad brush. Denial? Like what Faucchi said about the virus a year ago: the virus is nothing to worry about and masks don't work. Half the voters supported Trump and like or dislike him, our GDP was at record levels, government pared back, record low unemployment (same with record unemployment for black/hispanic), dramatically lowered illegals from entering the US, rolled back taxes for citizens and corporations, more. I get it that your a dem/leftist, but your party is all about more govt control, higher taxes, late term abortion, hate charter schools, defund the police, green deal that kills jobs, make friends with China our enemy, Obama care disaster, more.
Unfortunately its people like you that destroy where we live. 200,000 American's died on Trumps watch because he was so self consumed making up reality for himself (he got Covid and showed everybody not to wear a mask). Your survival of the fittest mentality works well in a crony capitalist country we live. Fortunately the working people are getting really uncomfortable with the super wealthy owning everything and then the rest suffering living paycheck to paycheck. The corporate propaganda money machine (Fox news among others) controls you and what is really sad is your probably suffering yourself because you believe this crap your spewing and shooting yourself in the foot. I just feel sorry for you and your followers like the zombies in the show the walking dead. Have a good day.
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nomoneywallet
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How many times can you claim the CVRP rebates? I already claimed the CVRP twice in the past, but my wife has not. Can we both be on the registration and still claim the CVRP rebate?
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Duke-GlobeTrotter
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Quote from nomoneywallet :
How many times can you claim the CVRP rebates? I already claimed the CVRP twice in the past, but my wife has not. Can we both be on the registration and still claim the CVRP rebate?
Yes, I believe so as I asked the person as CRVP to confirm. I highly recommend you call them as they do pick up the phone and very responsive.
Last edited by Duke-GlobeTrotter March 20, 2021 at 07:26 PM.

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Holding-out for a car burning methane.
you can probably get a week's worth of fuel by farting directly into the engine.
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