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HP OMEN 17 - 11th Gen Intel Core i7-11800H - RTX 3060 130W - 16GB RAM - 1TB PCIe4 SSD - 144HZ 1080p - $1399

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I've seen this for a while, but was surprised to not see it posted here for so long, it's like the legion 5 but with an 11800h and less bulky, or the costco ge76 with a better screen and design, although $100 more than either (saw it since before the ge76 was up though).

Full power 3060, pcie4 drive and tb4, good screen, mechanical keyboard, well cooled, sleek design, is it just the price? lack of reviews?

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great deal. The intel is the fastest gaming laptop chip on the market.
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great deal. The intel is the fastest gaming laptop chip on the market.
Yes, but it's less power efficient. Then again this is a 17" so marginal decrease in battery life relative to AMD probably isn't particularly important.

Great laptop for the money!
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Yes, but it's less power efficient. Then again this is a 17" so marginal decrease in battery life relative to AMD probably isn't particularly important.

Great laptop for the money!
it's not marginal, it gets much less battery life, just look at jarrodstech battery charts, it's quite shocking. With that being said good deal for the money if need 17", Legion 5 pro is currently 1399 on ebay
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it's not marginal, it gets much less battery life, just look at jarrodstech battery charts, it's quite shocking. With that being said good deal for the money if need 17", Legion 5 pro is currently 1399 on ebay
I'm not finding this Legion 5 pro on ebay? I searched using "Legion 5 pro."
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this laptop has crappy ram timing, watch youtube. Also I saw this laptop at MC myself. It has very ugly design compare to GE76 + less RGB + super dim screen = trash, garbage for 1400$
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The GE76 is double the price so I would hope it's better lol
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it's not marginal, it gets much less battery life, just look at jarrodstech battery charts, it's quite shocking. With that being said good deal for the money if need 17", Legion 5 pro is currently 1399 on ebay
AMD cheats battery benchmarks because nobody tests performance when unplugged in reviews:

https://www.windowscentral.com/am...ttery-life

https://wccftech.com/intel-amd-ry...sentation/

Now im not saying AMD is less efficient than Intel to be clear, but their battery life figures get exaggerated because they throttle performance on battery even if you use high performance mode, while Intel really doesnt unless the user changes power plans.
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AMD cheats battery benchmarks because nobody tests performance when unplugged in reviews:

https://www.windowscentral.com/am...ttery-life [windowscentral.com]

https://wccftech.com/intel-amd-ry...sentation/ [wccftech.com]

Now im not saying AMD is less efficient than Intel to be clear, but their battery life figures get exaggerated because they throttle performance on battery even if you use high performance mode, while Intel really doesnt unless the user changes power plans.
If intel wins on battery it could be true for the low power skus, but for these gaming 45W+ processors atleast all youtube benchmarks show that AMD wins on both battery life AND battery performance, which would make sense because of the process node.

Those sources seem pretty sus, the first one claims "intel doesnt do this at all" without showing intel numbers, and the second one only shows literal Intel marketing material lol.

Regardless, I personally still prefer Intel for the single core performance, TB4 and PCIe4, and never really cared about battery life.
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it's not marginal, it gets much less battery life, just look at jarrodstech battery charts, it's quite shocking. With that being said good deal for the money if need 17", Legion 5 pro is currently 1399 on ebay
Just think of the battery as a UPS instead of a mobile power supply.
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it's not marginal, it gets much less battery life, just look at jarrodstech battery charts, it's quite shocking. With that being said good deal for the money if need 17", Legion 5 pro is currently 1399 on ebay
Link?
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If intel wins on battery it could be true for the low power skus, but for these gaming 45W+ processors atleast all youtube benchmarks show that AMD wins on both battery life AND battery performance, which would make sense because of the process node.

Those sources seem pretty sus, the first one claims "intel doesnt do this at all" without showing intel numbers, and the second one only shows literal Intel marketing material lol.

Regardless, I personally still prefer Intel for the single core performance, TB4 and PCIe4, and never really cared about battery life.
intel changed quite a bit since 11th gen laptop processor thanks to the improved manufacturing process. the youtube review is porbabily for the 10th gen (and that would be correct)

https://www.ultrabookreview.com/4...omparison/

in short, the 11th gen intel is a better chip by itself, and the fact that it can do TB4 with external GPU makes it a no brainier.

i bought a AMD 4750 laptop (thinkpad T14 AMD) last year, and intel 11800H (thinkpad T15G) laptop this year. the intel one is significantly faster processor wise.
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great deal. The intel is the fastest gaming laptop chip on the market.
Yah... I will take the 2% hit in FPS on games and the 50% increase on apps that use multiple CPUs.
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Yah... I will take the 2% hit in FPS on games and the 50% increase on apps that use multiple CPUs.
10%+ in games and pretty close in multithreading applications.
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10%+ in games and pretty close in multithreading applications.
ummm... yah, I don't think so. And we have not even talked about heat and fan noise to cool i down and battery life and wattage used.

Look, AMD is the winner today. Even with gamers.
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