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Seagate Exos X16 16TB 7200 RPM enterprise hard drive $316.21

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Not $15/TB, but this is $9 cheaper than the lowest price ever, from good old pre-Chia times. The price will probably continue to go down further thanks to the mess in HDD market that Chia has created. The store promises price match within 7 days of purchase if you find a lower price.

Unlike shucked WD drives, this is a true enterprise drive that works at full speed (261MB/s) and has a 5 year warranty.

Use code โ€‹SAVEALINCOLN to get $5 off the 321.21 price. Works once per account but that won't be an obstacle for true slickdealers, I know 8)

No tax in California, probably some other states, too

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caldwellone
09-11-2021 at 06:38 AM.
09-11-2021 at 06:38 AM.
Looks like Amazon also has the 14gb version for about the same price per gig
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09-11-2021 at 07:35 AM.
09-11-2021 at 07:35 AM.
Quote from grilledsteak :
Maybe he's been burned by Seagate drives in the past and like a normal person he values his personal experience above Backblaze statistics. That's exactly the reason I don't buy Seagate anymore.
Everyone is going to get burned by a rotational drive eventually.. They all fail. Some sooner then others. There are so many variables that could cause a drive to fail... (heat, vibration, Shock for example) Which is why statistics like those from backblaze should be taken into consideration. Their working/testing environment is consistent across all drives which results in a very good gauge on drive reliability. That said.. Seagate drives are currently at the top of their list for failure rates and HGST drives seem to be holding strong.
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grilledsteak
09-11-2021 at 08:08 AM.
09-11-2021 at 08:08 AM.
Quote from caldwellone :
Everyone is going to get burned by a rotational drive eventually.. They all fail. Some sooner then others. There are so many variables that could cause a drive to fail... (heat, vibration, Shock for example) Which is why statistics like those from backblaze should be taken into consideration. Their working/testing environment is consistent across all drives which results in a very good gauge on drive reliability.
Correct that rotational drives do not last forever. They're made of wear-parts and wear-parts eventually fail. However, are you suggesting that Backblaze performance statistics from very controlled environments should outweigh people's own personal experience in conditions far more susceptible to variation? Backblaze statistics on drive reliability apply to anyone using the same drives, in the same environment, with the same usage patterns. They don't dictate how a drive is going to perform in my environment and usage.

Another thing people don't realize is that Backblaze is only one of very many companies buying drives in bulk. Their statistics represent only a small sliver of drives sold each year. Backblaze reports they had 165,530 drives in operation in 2020 with 23,278 of them being new. Over 260 million drives were sold in 2020 though, and nearly 1 billion between 2018-2020.

Backblaze provides useful metrics but the buck doesn't stop with what they say. I will always prioritize my own personal experience because at the end of the day that's what matters most. If your experience is different from mine, ok, no problem, but so what.
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09-11-2021 at 08:40 AM.
09-11-2021 at 08:40 AM.
Quote from grilledsteak :
Correct that rotational drives do not last forever. They're made of wear-parts and wear-parts eventually fail. However, are you suggesting that Backblaze performance statistics from very controlled environments should outweigh people's own personal experience in conditions far more susceptible to variation? Backblaze statistics on drive reliability apply to anyone using the same drives, in the same environment, with the same usage patterns. They don't dictate how a drive is going to perform in my environment and usage.

Another thing people don't realize is that Backblaze is only one of very many companies buying drives in bulk. Their statistics represent only a small sliver of drives sold each year. Backblaze reports they had 165,530 drives in operation in 2020 with 23,278 of them being new. Over 260 million drives were sold in 2020 though, and nearly 1 billion between 2018-2020.

Backblaze provides useful metrics but the buck doesn't stop with what they say. I will always prioritize my own personal experience because at the end of the day that's what matters most. If your experience is different from mine, ok, no problem, but so what.
I agree with what your saying and I actually think we are saying the same thing here as I said "There are so many variables that could cause a drive to fail... (heat, vibration, Shock for example)". Which brings me to my point.. Backblaze is a backup service so these drives are taxed heavily in, as you stated, a "very controlled environment", Much more so then the average user will probably ever really use these drives. I wish there was real world consumer data available. But there isn't as far as I can tell. so we have to rely on companies like backblaze to provide theirs. so with that said.. yes I would take their word on drive reliability over some rando complaining about his drive failing within a year.
Which brings me back to what my comment was actually on...
Quote from lelcomedygold :
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enjoy losing all your data once these drives start the click of death within a year
Which suggests (without any proof to back it up) that these drives will fail within a year. I was simply showing that these personal experiences and blanket comments are not very helpful without any data to back it up.
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ElatedSummer9477
09-11-2021 at 09:57 AM.
09-11-2021 at 09:57 AM.
I'm really curious what kind of home applications you all run to have one, or most likely more than one, of these at home. Unless you're into storing 4K movies locally instead of streaming?
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09-11-2021 at 10:37 AM.
09-11-2021 at 10:37 AM.
Plex and Blue Iris here on a windows machine. 14tb will hold about 15 days worth of camera footage and about 2000 hours of 4K media.
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09-11-2021 at 11:20 AM.
09-11-2021 at 11:20 AM.
I own one of these drives and it works well and is fairly quiet and speedy. Just to point out, it's not a barracuda, it's an exos.
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09-11-2021 at 02:31 PM.
09-11-2021 at 02:31 PM.
Quote from caldwellone :
Show me on this doll where seagate hurt you. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚. Please post stats to back up your claim.. for example.. Backblaze shows only a 1.7% fail rate on this drive over a 12 month period. https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ba...-for-2020/
People keep bringing up the death star issues with sea gate but forgot that backblaze can provide a more accurate mtbf rating.
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09-11-2021 at 03:36 PM.
09-11-2021 at 03:36 PM.
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They're not listed as a truster reseller or distributor
https://www.seagate.com/where-to-buy/

But as far as I can tell you don't have to buy from an authorized seller to have them honor the warranty.
https://www.seagate.com/support/w...rce-terms/

Oops, hang on. "Only consumers purchasing this Product from an authorized retailer or reseller may obtain coverage under this limited warranty."

Can anyone comment on whether they'd still honor the warranty? This seems like a straightforward "no," but I know there were reports of them replacing shucked drives that failed.

Very tempting either way, but I don't need drives right now so I might just hold out idk. Encouraging to see this price come back since this drive was shipped and sold by amazon.com at this price in the pre-chia times.
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timironi
09-11-2021 at 03:38 PM.
09-11-2021 at 03:38 PM.
All of this enterprise talk and no SAS.

Shame really.
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09-11-2021 at 11:30 PM.
09-11-2021 at 11:30 PM.
Amazing deal for chia. In 4 ten
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09-12-2021 at 02:24 AM.
09-12-2021 at 02:24 AM.
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Ugh, that's actually tempting. Can anyone comment on their experience with this seller? I think I've heard of them before but never bought from there.

I have used them via eBay many many times. All great experiences and fantastic packing.
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09-12-2021 at 01:47 PM.
09-12-2021 at 01:47 PM.
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All of this enterprise talk and no SAS.

Shame really.
"Enterprise-Grade" but not really something to throw into a Server/Storage array at work.
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09-13-2021 at 06:28 AM.
09-13-2021 at 06:28 AM.
If you're just using in a NAS for serving video and music, are you better off with a 5400rpm drive? Does it not matter anymore?
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09-13-2021 at 08:42 AM.
09-13-2021 at 08:42 AM.
Quote from fordhamdude :
If you're just using in a NAS for serving video and music, are you better off with a 5400rpm drive? Does it not matter anymore?
It depends on specifics, but a for a typical use case slower drives would be sufficient. Even the most intensive Blu Ray footage stays at around 100 megabit in total bit rate, and a typical 5400 RPM drive is at least 10x as fast.

Of course, if you have multiple sessions downloading and transcoding content through Plex on the same drive, you'll need something faster: a RAID array, a faster drive, or some additional SSD/RAM caching.
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