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ASUS Barebones PC: RTX 3060 Ti, ASUS Z590-A PRIME Motherboard, 750W PSU
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Micro Center has ASUS BB Intel Value 2 Barebones PC on sale for $699.99. Available for in-store pick-up only (via "Reserve Now" button on product page.
Offer Notes:
This is a barebones PC, meaning it still needs a CPU, RAM, and SSD/HDD.
Availability will vary by location.
Specs:
ASUS Z590-A PRIME Intel LGA 1200 ATX Motherboard
ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti V2 Mini LHR Overclocked Dual-Fan 8GB GDDR6 PCIe 4.0 Graphics Card
ASUS TUF Gaming GT301 Tempered Glass ATX Mid-Tower Computer Case - Black
ASUS TUF GAMING 750 Watt 80 Plus Bronze ATX Non-Modular Power Supply
Note this is a 10/11 gen mobo, and if you want 12th gen, it wont work.
Pass for me. Z590 mobo is 11th Gen intel. For price-performance value, the i5 12400 is the sweet spot. Needs a z6xx mobo that supports ddr4 to be hot. A z690 would give you a solid upgrade path.
Don't get hung up on the 12th gen Techtooober hype.
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Why would you call it hype if it has a solid performance increase and is also about the same price?
It's not as major of a performance increase as the make it out to be and it is more expensive when you consider the MB's, street pricing and DDR5 option. Go ahead and buy it, sure, but it doesn't make everything else obsolete or a poor value. 5600X's with B450 or B550 MB are a huge steal now since the hype train has moved on.
It's not as major of a performance increase as the make it out to be and it is more expensive when you consider the MB's, street pricing and DDR5 option. Go ahead and buy it, sure, but it doesn't make everything else obsolete or a poor value.
Many of us that are buying a brand new PC do want the better option. Especially if it's going to add up to over $1500. So a lot of people do want the 12 gen processor. They might be unaware that this is a 11 gen motherboard and should be warned. (in fact, someone almost did that exact same thing)
As for 12 gen vs 11 gen. I admit I am very ignorant here. But from what I've been seeing, the i5 12600k beats all the previous generations including their i9 versions.
And regarding the motherboard from the price picker:
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Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z590-A ATX LGA1200 Motherboard [pcpartpicker.com] ($229.99 )
The Asus Prime Z690-P LGA 1700 is $220. So faster, better, and cheaper.
So when you say not to get stuck on the 11/12 gen stuff, it's hard not to.
Obviously the bundle deal is different than the breakdown. But if you were to claim the video card is $275, then that assumes everything else is good value. I don't think $220 for an 11 gen mobo is good value anymore.
Many of us that are buying a brand new PC do want the better option. Especially if it's going to add up to over $1500. So a lot of people do want the 12 gen processor. They might be unaware that this is a 11 gen motherboard and should be warned. (in fact, someone almost did that exact same thing)
As for 12 gen vs 11 gen. I admit I am very ignorant here. But from what I've been seeing, the i5 12600k beats all the previous generations including their i9 versions.
The 12600K is an extremely impressive chip and a solid 15% faster than a 9900K/10700K/11600K/12400. Great. Building a new PC and it's in your budget as long as you don't gimp other components? Buy it. You'll note that not once in this thread did I compare a build with this Z590 to a 12600K build, in fact I pointed out that the 12600K and 12700K are a great value and have very good long term relevance:
However, the normal street prices of an 11th gen Z-K combo are a good $50-$100 less and there all sorts of firesales going on. And you'll never notice the difference unless you're playing a modern AAA game with great multithread support with a beefy GPU at 1080P. Or e-sports. For 1440P and 4K it's imperceptible. I'll pay hundreds for 10-15% more GPU performance at 4K before I bother with a new CPU/MB/RAM.
Of course it's hypocrisy for me to also recommend spending a few extra bucks for fast ram and a decent cooler with a K series CPU, but that's just my belief that you should get the most out of what CPU you do have.
If people can't understand top level MB - CPU compatibility with a bit of basic research, they probably shouldn't be building a PC. The loss of an M.2 slot when using a 10th gen CPU on a 11th gen MB is more nuanced and I can see people being tripped up by that.
Anyway, I need to look at a 12700K and Z690 DDR4, if I can make a move under $600. Is it worth it for a 20-50% gain over my 9900K and running my GPU at 16x Gen 4. Or do I go 5950X/X570 and SLI for ~$1200. Or do nothing, most likely, and wait for new HEDT ($$$$). Humm.
EDIT: Looks like the MSI PRO Z690-A and 12700K are a hot setup for under $550. Tempting as hell.
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Obviously the bundle deal is different than the breakdown. But if you were to claim the video card is $275, then that assumes everything else is good value. I don't think $220 for an 11 gen mobo is good value anymore.
Not claiming the video card is $275. All I did was select the actual parts in the bundle at their street value and adjusted the cards price to $274 for a $700 total, for the sake of calculating the overall build cost.
Thank you for your reasonable and well considered post.
(The 3060 Ti is only a few percent slower than the 2080 Ti and a pretty good proxy.)
I was going to spec an i3 earlier but figured I'd get crucified.
You could do it with the stock cooler, 16GB ram, 512GB ssd for under $900. Would be fine.
Just to be clear though, my personal 2080 Ti which is good but nothing exceptional aside from a ~375w power limit and hybrid, is 20% more powerful than the top 10 3060 Ti's in the world, and 40% more powerful on typical gaming settings than an average 3060 Ti. So they may test similarly in reviews, but the 2080 Ti has way more potential. I've run my 2080 Ti with a 10400 and 16gb ram, it was fine for 4K gaming.
I was going to spec an i3 earlier but figured I'd get crucified.
You could do it with the stock cooler, 16GB ram, 512GB ssd for under $900. Would be fine.
Just to be clear though, my personal 2080 Ti which is good but nothing exceptional aside from a ~375w power limit and hybrid, is 20% more powerful than the top 10 3060 Ti's in the world, and 40% more powerful on typical gaming settings than an average 3060 Ti. So they may test similarly in reviews, but the 2080 Ti has way more potential. I've run my 2080 Ti with a 10400 and 16gb ram, it was fine for 4K gaming.
There's a lot of caveats, but I don't think it's crazy. Newer games are more CPU intensive, but it should be good for a couple more years, by which time CPU cache sizes will explode and DDR5 will mature.
There's a lot of caveats, but I don't think it's crazy. Newer games are more CPU intensive, but it should be good for a couple more years, by which time CPU cache sizes will explode and DDR5 will mature.
Yeah it would be fine for a $900 build. But I'd urge people to come up with a hundred more, the 11400 is almost twice as powerful and have much better longevity, especially for AAA gaming at 1080p.
I haven't kept up with building PC's in the last couple of years or so. My son is trying to build a gaming PC and so we bought this. Looking to pair this kit with Intel Core i5-11600K and this bundle:
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As for 12 gen vs 11 gen. I admit I am very ignorant here. But from what I've been seeing, the i5 12600k beats all the previous generations including their i9 versions.
And regarding the motherboard from the price picker:
So when you say not to get stuck on the 11/12 gen stuff, it's hard not to.
Obviously the bundle deal is different than the breakdown. But if you were to claim the video card is $275, then that assumes everything else is good value. I don't think $220 for an 11 gen mobo is good value anymore.
As for 12 gen vs 11 gen. I admit I am very ignorant here. But from what I've been seeing, the i5 12600k beats all the previous generations including their i9 versions.
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=
However, the normal street prices of an 11th gen Z-K combo are a good $50-$100 less and there all sorts of firesales going on. And you'll never notice the difference unless you're playing a modern AAA game with great multithread support with a beefy GPU at 1080P. Or e-sports. For 1440P and 4K it's imperceptible. I'll pay hundreds for 10-15% more GPU performance at 4K before I bother with a new CPU/MB/RAM.
Of course it's hypocrisy for me to also recommend spending a few extra bucks for fast ram and a decent cooler with a K series CPU, but that's just my belief that you should get the most out of what CPU you do have.
If people can't understand top level MB - CPU compatibility with a bit of basic research, they probably shouldn't be building a PC. The loss of an M.2 slot when using a 10th gen CPU on a 11th gen MB is more nuanced and I can see people being tripped up by that.
The Asus Prime Z690-P LGA 1700 is $220. So faster, better, and cheaper.
So when you say not to get stuck on the 11/12 gen stuff, it's hard not to.
Z690 Steel Legend & 12600K ---> $220 + $275 = $495
Z590 Unify & 11900K ---> $250 + $398 = $648
Z690 Unify & 12900K ---> $480 + $580 = $1060
Anyway, I need to look at a 12700K and Z690 DDR4, if I can make a move under $600. Is it worth it for a 20-50% gain over my 9900K and running my GPU at 16x Gen 4. Or do I go 5950X/X570 and SLI for ~$1200. Or do nothing, most likely, and wait for new HEDT ($$$$). Humm.
EDIT: Looks like the MSI PRO Z690-A and 12700K are a hot setup for under $550. Tempting as hell.
Obviously the bundle deal is different than the breakdown. But if you were to claim the video card is $275, then that assumes everything else is good value. I don't think $220 for an 11 gen mobo is good value anymore.
Thank you for your reasonable and well considered post.
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I have a 3060ti with RGB lighting, and it performs as well aa 3070ti without RGB (and with my 3 RGB case fans I effectively have a 3080).
I even tested this out by disabling the RGB and got an immediate loss in fps.
PCPartPicker Part List [pcpartpicker.com]
CPU: Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor [pcpartpicker.com] ($169.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 Blue 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler [pcpartpicker.com] ($19.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z590-A ATX LGA1200 Motherboard [pcpartpicker.com] ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory [pcpartpicker.com] ($117.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive [pcpartpicker.com] ($102.64 @ GameStop)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB DUAL MINI OC Video Card [pcpartpicker.com] ($274.00)
Case: Asus TUF Gaming GT301 ATX Mid Tower Case [pcpartpicker.com] ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Asus TUF Gaming 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply [pcpartpicker.com] ($95.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1110.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker [pcpartpicker.com] 2022-04-14 22:57 EDT-0400
Could be under $1000 with a 512gb drive and 16gb ram:
PCPartPicker Part List [pcpartpicker.com]
CPU: Intel Core i5-11400 2.6 GHz 6-Core Processor [pcpartpicker.com] ($169.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX 400 Blue 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler [pcpartpicker.com] ($19.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z590-A ATX LGA1200 Motherboard [pcpartpicker.com] ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory [pcpartpicker.com] ($54.97 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 670p 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive [pcpartpicker.com] ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB DUAL MINI OC Video Card [pcpartpicker.com] ($274.00)
Case: Asus TUF Gaming GT301 ATX Mid Tower Case [pcpartpicker.com] ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Asus TUF Gaming 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply [pcpartpicker.com] ($95.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $994.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker [pcpartpicker.com] 2022-04-14 23:02 EDT-0400
Seriously, look check it out:
https://www.techpowerup
(The 3060 Ti is only a few percent slower than the 2080 Ti and a pretty good proxy.)
Seriously, look check it out:
https://www.techpowerup
(The 3060 Ti is only a few percent slower than the 2080 Ti and a pretty good proxy.)
You could do it with the stock cooler, 16GB ram, 512GB ssd for under $900. Would be fine.
Just to be clear though, my personal 2080 Ti which is good but nothing exceptional aside from a ~375w power limit and hybrid, is 20% more powerful than the top 10 3060 Ti's in the world, and 40% more powerful on typical gaming settings than an average 3060 Ti. So they may test similarly in reviews, but the 2080 Ti has way more potential. I've run my 2080 Ti with a 10400 and 16gb ram, it was fine for 4K gaming.
You could do it with the stock cooler, 16GB ram, 512GB ssd for under $900. Would be fine.
Just to be clear though, my personal 2080 Ti which is good but nothing exceptional aside from a ~375w power limit and hybrid, is 20% more powerful than the top 10 3060 Ti's in the world, and 40% more powerful on typical gaming settings than an average 3060 Ti. So they may test similarly in reviews, but the 2080 Ti has way more potential. I've run my 2080 Ti with a 10400 and 16gb ram, it was fine for 4K gaming.
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and this liquid cooler: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08L8PQ3ZF/
Would these work well together?