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Your link tests different games for the most part, with one very weird exception.
My link shows Red Dead 2: 2% gain
Your link shows Red Dead 2: 29.8% gain
They got almost 30% gain on the same game the other guys got 2% gain.
Even stranger--- their results for BOTH cpus are much higher than the other tester.
Toms is showing 135.5 fps on the 3600x, and 176 fps on the 5600x
The FPS review link is showing 101 fps for the 3600x and 102.9 fps for the 5600x
The only substantive difference in test HW I can see is Toms is running a 3090 non-ti, and FPS review is running a 3080Ti- and the gap between those at 1080 should certainly NOT be anywhere near that crazy.
I agree. Wildly different results. Lots of factors we probably can't account for or know for sure.
From your link - 3 games showed massive (25-30% gains), 3 showed moderate gains (10%+), and one showed nothing.
Using your links as data for context:
3 games of 7 games showed 25-30% gains. That does not dictate "the most extreme scenarios". Verbage I would use there is "some". I'm not cherry picking the data, I'm just here to make sure people stay informed as possible.
I would consider Tom's Hardware pretty credible as a source.
here's more data showing massive gains in 1080p gaming also from another source I'd consider credible, PCMag
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-5600x
Depends on what you consider a budget build price tag.
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Thats a good starting point to narrow down your options.
You are right. That's my error. 5600G does.
Probably not worth dealing with a Newegg return considering they are about equal, right?
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Probably not worth dealing with a Newegg return considering they are about equal, right?
I think that depends on what you paid for the 12400f. It's competitive and has stronger single core performance compared to the 5600x. Other considerations such as motherboard selection/pricing, ddr4 vs ddr5...
From your link - 3 games showed massive (25-30% gains), 3 showed moderate gains (10%+), and one showed nothing.
That is... not accurate.
From my link stock vs stock 3600x vs 5600x on 7 games results were:
Cyberpunk 2077: 6%
Far Cry 6: 10%
Watch Dog Legion: 18%
Flight Simulator: 26%
Red Dead 2: 2%
Crysis Remasters: 28%
Metro Exodus: 0%
So 4 of 7 games, the majority, gained 10% or less (3 of 4 gained less, 2 barely gained at all).
One gained 18%
And 2 got into the mid-high 20s, but both are known specifically as very CPU intense games.
And those are 2 of the most CPU intensive games out there.
Any discussion involving Crysis in particular where you don't think the word "extreme scenario" applies is worth reconsidering your position.
I would consider Tom's Hardware pretty credible as a source.
here's more data showing massive gains in 1080p gaming also from another source I'd consider credible, PCMag
https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-5-5600x
All of that is totally fair....though the PC Mag story is generally testing older games (MUCH older in a few cases--- CS:GO is from 2012, RS Siege from 2015, etc).
Unfortunately they don't test any of the newer games my original link did.
They DO overlap with Toms on one game though-
And weirdly Toms once again seems to have gotten WAY higher FPS scores than anybody else there- they're seeing 35-45 fps higher in Far Cry 5 for both CPUs than PCMag got at same resolution.... but in the other direction Toms shows just a 30% performance improvement 3600X->5600X.... while PCMag shows a nearly 50% improvement for the same CPUs on the same game at the same resolution.
That said, this is at least a bit more understandable for the higher FPS in THIS case since it's a 3090 vs a 2080ti instead of a 3080ti... but the larger performance benefit with the WEAKER GPU is....not at all what you'd expect. The more GPU the less the game should be GPU bound, and the more you should be able to see a difference in benefit from the CPU. But we're seeing the opposite in that example.
But it speaks a bit to how challenging it can be to figure out how much given testing applies to your specific situation.
For example I get that Toms used a 3090 to try and make it all about the CPU (esp at 1080).... but if you're someone who is NOT planning to run a 3090 (esp not at 1080p)- it might give you unrealistic expectations of how much a CPU upgrade will help you.
Both Toms and PCMag saw significant gains in that particular game, even if the differences between their results are hard to explain.... but if you're someone running that game on say a 1060, you're probably NOT going to see those kinds of improvements.
B550 boards, with good heatsinks on the board, are usually the best bang for the buck.
Outside of low-end offering, the price delta between the two platforms is almost nothing.
Probably not worth dealing with a Newegg return considering they are about equal, right?
I haven't really noticed AM4 motherboards being all that much cheaper than LGA 1700 either.
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