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expiredScarletShow3424 posted Aug 15, 2022 08:12 AM
14TB Seagate Exos X16 7200 RPM 3.5" Enterprise OEM Hard Drive
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It is recertified by seagate with a 2 year warranty. Very reputable by seller since they get 1000s of these drives a month from seagate
X18 14TB has more platters, is faster than the X16 and more reliable
I plan on buying these or the X16 16TB from Seagate for 199.99
Either way you are getting ripped off here. The only difference is you will have a different sticker on the hdd that says recertified.
I run a XCH Chia farm over 2PiB thats over 2000TB . Once written too they are just reading from my supermicro 45 BAY Jbods, and only had 1 Seagate die , it was a 8TB SMR POS drive and had a 18TB CMR Seagate die 2 days after writing to it. Once they get bad sectors get rid of it or replace it. It took a year for this to happen.
Have not had a WD or Hitachi die but if you want those you can buy those recerts as well with a 2 year warranty.
CMR drives are basically enterprise level drives and will last a very long time and are good for NAS's
I know what I am talking about, and btw drives will usually died within a week so I suggest using some program to write to the entire drive and this will determine after a few days if the drives craps out. If not it will last many years if you use proper cooling and handling
Their other issues highlighted by Gamers Nexus earlier this year are a bigger red flag, hopefully they've learnt their lesson.
AFAIK, this only applies to drives that are removed from external enclosures and used internally (aka shucked). Apparently the external drive enclosure uses one of the power pins to indicate some kind of power-off condition to the drive, so these models of drive are built to power-off when that pin is high. But most standard power supplies / SATA connectors keep that pin high all the time, making it so the drives won't spin up without taping over that pin.
I very much doubt any of that applies to the Seagate drives being discussed here, though.
What is this fascination with Enterprise drives? They are really not designed for consumer home use given their acoustics, need for climate controlled rooms that are relatively dust free, not lugged around or moved while powered on like it may happen with consumer use, etc. They will last longer with 24x7 random reads and writes like in a data center than consumer drives but consumer use doesn't subject drives to this type of use.
If you have an acoustically treated basement that requires heating perhaps you can throw a few of these in a rack mounted drive chassis.
every drive out there is CMR now , after 8TB for Seagate. These drives are what you want for any home environment , gaming, raid arrays, NAS etc. Buying anything else is a POS drive.
Even some WDs are reds in enclosures that are 8TB
AFAIK, this only applies to drives that are removed from external enclosures and used internally (aka shucked). Apparently the external drive enclosure uses one of the power pins to indicate some kind of power-off condition to the drive, so these models of drive are built to power-off when that pin is high. But most standard power supplies / SATA connectors keep that pin high all the time, making it so the drives won't spin up without taping over that pin.
I very much doubt any of that applies to the Seagate drives being discussed here, though.
They all should work with the pin install on enterprise JBODs with backplanes, and consumer NASs.
It applies to drives found in the enclosures but not sure about the OEM drives
every drive out there is CMR now , after 8TB for Seagate. These drives are what you want for any home environment , gaming, raid arrays, NAS etc. Buying anything else is a POS drive.
Even some WDs are reds in enclosures that are 8TB
Also, SMR drives got such a bad rap and they can be used in desktop computers fine,. I use this as my data drive in my computer.
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What is this fascination with Enterprise drives? They are really not designed for consumer home use given their acoustics, need for climate controlled rooms that are relatively dust free, not lugged around or moved while powered on like it may happen with consumer use, etc. They will last longer with 24x7 random reads and writes like in a data center than consumer drives but consumer use doesn't subject drives to this type of use.
If you have an acoustically treated basement that requires heating perhaps you can throw a few of these in a rack mounted drive chassis.
It is recertified by seagate with a 2 year warranty. Very reputable by seller since they get 1000s of these drives a month from seagate
X18 14TB has more platters, is faster than the X16 and more reliable
I plan on buying these or the X16 16TB from Seagate for 199.99
Either way you are getting ripped off here. The only difference is you will have a different sticker on the hdd that says recertified.
I run a XCH Chia farm over 2PiB thats over 2000TB . Once written too they are just reading from my supermicro 45 BAY Jbods, and only had 1 Seagate die , it was a 8TB SMR POS drive and had a 18TB CMR Seagate die 2 days after writing to it. Once they get bad sectors get rid of it or replace it. It took a year for this to happen.
Have not had a WD or Hitachi die but if you want those you can buy those recerts as well with a 2 year warranty.
CMR drives are basically enterprise level drives and will last a very long time and are good for NAS's
I know what I am talking about, and btw drives will usually died within a week so I suggest using some program to write to the entire drive and this will determine after a few days if the drives craps out. If not it will last many years if you use proper cooling and handling
Also, SMR drives got such a bad rap and they can be used in desktop computers fine,. I use this as my data drive in my computer.
You may get away with it on Unraid , but would not use on Windows Software raid or True NAS/synology etc
I have not read up on the 26TB SMR WD drive so it may be built better than the current SMR drives. However from my understanding SMR is awful for writes and should not be used for gaming. If you are writing once to the SMR drive and storing long term in a closet in cool temperate climate for long term storage, SMR is perfect for this from my understanding.
SMR hates writes
SMR likes reads and can handle that but from my understand dont expect them to survive longer than a CMR drive or handle high speed transfers
I would stay away from SMR all together until CMR drives in 26TB are released. You can put them in raid but they will die quicker and transfer rates will be awful
I will be ordering 20+ hard drives from serverparts deals soon and from my understanding they will discount them 5.00 or more ea depending how many you buy.
The seagates 8TB enclosures they sell at target, walmart , staples, any local store will be SMR. Some WD 8TB enclosures if you can find them , best buy etc may have WD Reds in them which are CMR and so much better than Seagates 8TB SMR since they are made for NAS/Raid.
Anything over 8TB , from seagate in the enclosure sold locally i.e. 10TB will be CMR seagate enterprise drives ranging from X10 to X18.
Most of the 16TB enclosures from Seagate are actually X18 now with more platters that are a slightly better build quality vs X16 since they use the 18TB platters and speed.
X16 16TB at serverpartsdeals is 199.99
X18 14TB is 164.99
I may opt for 14TB 20Qty plus since I would receive a discount , no tax since i am outside florida. I would use more bays using 14TB but cost per TB is less so I would have more TB, so you really need to figure out your upgrade path and cost of equipment for expansion.
I am farming plots for crypto "XCH"
good luck to all but this is just my personal opinion from what I researched. More than welcome to reply what may be a better path for upgrading hdds. I may wait until BF since this is the best time to buy in bulk
cd /dev ; ls # to check which disk is attached.
umount /dev/sd** #where* is the device you're trying to mount
sudo badblocks -b 4096 -wsv /dev/sd** #this is a destructive process, all data will be lost on the target disk. This will give you a piece of mind.
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It is recertified by seagate with a 2 year warranty. Very reputable by seller since they get 1000s of these drives a month from seagate
X18 14TB has more platters, is faster than the X16 and more reliable
I plan on buying these or the X16 16TB from Seagate for 199.99
Either way you are getting ripped off here. The only difference is you will have a different sticker on the hdd that says recertified.
I run a XCH Chia farm over 2PiB thats over 2000TB . Once written too they are just reading from my supermicro 45 BAY Jbods, and only had 1 Seagate die , it was a 8TB SMR POS drive and had a 18TB CMR Seagate die 2 days after writing to it. Once they get bad sectors get rid of it or replace it. It took a year for this to happen.
Have not had a WD or Hitachi die but if you want those you can buy those recerts as well with a 2 year warranty.
CMR drives are basically enterprise level drives and will last a very long time and are good for NAS's
I know what I am talking about, and btw drives will usually died within a week so I suggest using some program to write to the entire drive and this will determine after a few days if the drives craps out. If not it will last many years if you use proper cooling and handling
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