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WD has numerous variations and revisions [westerndigital.com] of these drives, some of which were renamed and/or discontinued after the RPM drama [arstechnica.com] came to light a few years ago. The pictures on BestBuy's product page show a model of WD80EFAX, which was replaced by WD80EFBX two years ago. The WD80EFBX (256MB) was itself discontinued earlier this year and has since been superseded by the WD80EFZZ, which is the 128MB version you see on Amazon. Assuming BestBuy is actually shipping BX's (I wouldn't be surprised to hear reports of people receiving ZZ's), it means you are likely getting older stock which they are still in the process of offloading, same as the official WD store. A quick check of the manufacturing date on the drive's label should give you an indication.
Depending on your particular usage scenario and preferences, the newer version being sold by the likes of Amazon, BH, and NewEgg may actually be the better choice. That 7200 RPM comes at a cost of higher energy consumption, heat, and noise, which, for some, can be a big deal when you start throwing multiples of them into an array. As odd as it may seem, there's a reason people flipped out when the news broke that Reds were operating at faster than advertised speeds.
Better is subjective, especially when dealing with NAS drives. See above.
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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-r...Id=6449004 [bestbuy.com]
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...0DER&psc=1 [amazon.com]
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All hard drives will fail. It's just a matter of time, as it's a bell curve -- your most common failures will be in the break-in period and near end-of-life.
Best thing I can suggest is to treat your storage like cattle, not like pets. Use a variety of vendors. Keep meticulous local and remote backups - if a tornado, flood, angry mob, etc destroyed your home, do you have an offsite backup that's up to date and accessible?
To prevent wear issues from impacting multiple drives at the same time, If you have to buy from the same vendor of disk, try to buy from different manufacturing lots (different sellers, wait a few months before buying another drive, etc). This is challenging, and sometimes a pointless endeavor -- better to spend that time, money, and effort in your backup solution.
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I'm in for 2 of the 12tbs for < $400. Was waiting on BF deals on bigger EXOs but these are going to be in a gaming + media machine that's not in a case specifically designed for quiet in my theater room. It's silent now with SSD's, but adding these and not being able to hear them and exos side by side in real life, I'm going to roll the dice and believe the word on the street that these are quieter and are at least still CMR.
edit: Also was waiting for them to be sold by Amazon and not a reseller or renewed or refreshed or remanufactured or regurgitated.
Amazon uses commingled inventory. That means all the inventory in the warehouse is added to one common pool, regardless if it's from Amazon or a third party that sourced the drive in less than ideal ways.
No matter if you buy from scAmazon directly or through one of their third party sellers, you could literally get the same exact literal "counterfeit" device. I've had this happen with an electronics textbook -- went through the trouble to pay "extra" for Amazon as the seller so I could be guaranteed it's not a counterfeit.....and guess what, it was like buying a "Roolex Watch" or "Moakleys Sunglasses" off a blanket in Times Square.
I strongly, strongly, very strongly suggest buying from first party vendors like Western Digital -- or at least major vendors with a good reputation, like B&H Photo, Walmart, Best Buy, etc. Assume that with anything Amazon, you could get a counterfeit....or worse.
Amazon uses commingled inventory. That means all the inventory in the warehouse is added to one common pool, regardless if it's from Amazon or a third party that sourced the drive in less than ideal ways.
No matter if you buy from scAmazon directly or through one of their third party sellers, you could literally get the same exact literal "counterfeit" device. I've had this happen with an electronics textbook -- went through the trouble to pay "extra" for Amazon as the seller so I could be guaranteed it's not a counterfeit.....and guess what, it was like buying a "Roolex Watch" or "Moakleys Sunglasses" off a blanket in Times Square.
I strongly, strongly, very strongly suggest buying from first party vendors like Western Digital -- or at least major vendors with a good reputation, like B&H Photo, Walmart, Best Buy, etc. Assume that with anything Amazon, you could get a counterfeit....or worse.
Handy dandy chart to see the differences.
https://nascompares.com/answer/wd...d-red-pro/
Condensed chart. https://www.nasmaster.c
Amazon openly admitted to me, via chat, to use commingled inventory. I bought a book direct from them, but it was sourced from a third party seller. There was no guarantee that buying Amazon (directly) would ever get me a legit product. THEIR WORDS not mine. I have no way to "prove" this to you, but take it as you will.
Browse SD posts about memory cards from Amazon, and fakes/counterfeits are everywhere.
Walmart & BestBuy don't use commingled inventory, as far as we know, as they don't have shared stockroom marketplaces. Or if they do, they keep clear separation between sellers.
And for B&H...well, if you're doubting their reputation, then you really have no clue about US-based retailers, as they're about as honest and respectable as you can get.
Hope you enjoy your turkey buddy.
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The only thing I can say with utter certainty is that you come off as a douche with your "enjoy your turkey buddy" so take that into consideration in the future when trying to make a reasonable point - if you ever intend to. Unless you're just a troll.
Look, spend your hard earned dollerydoos wherever you want. Keep throwing money at the richest company in the world. Or not. Whatever. I have no dog in this race -- it was originally meant as a friendly heads up that you seemed to take as a personal assault.
I don't quite care anymore, and to be totally honest, I hope you get bricks instead of hard drives because you've been this unkind.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/wd-r...Id=6449004 [bestbuy.com]
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...0DER&psc=1 [amazon.com]
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This is how you know it's trash.
For 12TB drive, that is 180/12=15 times of read OR writes.
Meaning, if you write once, you only have 14 times to read out the entire drive for the whole year.
On top of that, no warranty, so you better pray the drive won't die if you read/write more than the rated 180TB per year.
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WD has numerous variations and revisions [westerndigital.com] of these drives, some of which were renamed and/or discontinued after the RPM drama [arstechnica.com] came to light a few years ago. The pictures on BestBuy's product page show a model of WD80EFAX, which was replaced by WD80EFBX two years ago. The WD80EFBX (256MB) was itself discontinued earlier this year and has since been superseded by the WD80EFZZ, which is the 128MB version you see on Amazon. Assuming BestBuy is actually shipping BX's (I wouldn't be surprised to hear reports of people receiving ZZ's), it means you are likely getting older stock which they are still in the process of offloading, same as the official WD store. A quick check of the manufacturing date on the drive's label should give you an indication.
Depending on your particular usage scenario and preferences, the newer version being sold by the likes of Amazon, BH, and NewEgg may actually be the better choice. That 7200 RPM comes at a cost of higher energy consumption, heat, and noise, which, for some, can be a big deal when you start throwing multiples of them into an array. As odd as it may seem, there's a reason people flipped out when the news broke that Reds were operating at faster than advertised speeds.
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