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Asus Zenbook 14 Laptop: 14.5" 1800p, i5 13500H, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD

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  • Intel 13th Generation Core i5 13500H 12-cores, 16-threads (3.5GHz Base / 4.7GHz Boost) Processor
  • 14.5" (2880 x 1800) OLED 500nits 0.2ms Touch Display
  • 8GB LPDDR5 RAM
  • 512GB PCIe 4.0 Solid State Drive
  • Intel Iris Xe Graphics
  • Wi-Fi 6E(802.11ax) (Dual band) 2*2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard
  • Windows 11 Home
  • Ports:
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    • 1x HDMI 2.0
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1 x USB-A 3.2

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Best Buy via eBay has Asus Zenbook 14 Laptop (Q410VA-EVO.I5512) on sale for $599.99. Shipping is free.

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Best Buy has Asus Zenbook 14 Laptop (Q410VA-EVO.I5512) on sale for $599.99. Shipping is free.

Specs:
  • Intel 13th Generation Core i5 13500H 12-cores, 16-threads (3.5GHz Base / 4.7GHz Boost) Processor
  • 14.5" (2880 x 1800) OLED 500nits 0.2ms Touch Display
  • 8GB LPDDR5 RAM
  • 512GB PCIe 4.0 Solid State Drive
  • Intel Iris Xe Graphics
  • Wi-Fi 6E(802.11ax) (Dual band) 2*2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard
  • Windows 11 Home
  • Ports:
    • 2x Thunderbolt 4
    • 1x HDMI 2.0
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1 x USB-A 3.2

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Model: ASUS - Zenbook 14.5" 2.8K OLED Laptop - Intel Evo Platform - 13th Gen Core i5 Processor with 8GB Memory - 512GB SSD - Inkwell Gray

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cazder
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1 soldered 8gb memory 4800MHz
you cannot
add more memory
bbqboy
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😂 everytime I click on these lower priced oled laptops I feel like grandpa Simpson in that meme with Bart where he enters the room and then quickly leaves again, once I see soldered 8gb ram
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You can get the 16GB model with Intel 13700H also on sale: $799 new or $671 open-box excellent.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6543526

I think any of these are good deals ... if there's a way to get a machine with a high resolution 120Hz OLED display for less I've yet to hear it.

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Jul 03, 2023 10:01 PM
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psychismJul 03, 2023 10:01 PM
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Quote from fatbaby :
I believe most soldered RAMs are not upgradable. 16GB soldered would be acceptable for a working laptop because you probably won't need more memory than that. If you are concerned about a discrete GPU, you are looking at a wrong laptop. Laptops with 14" screen with no gpu are typically for work.
If your reasoning is this is a work laptop why does it need more than 8gb ram? I mean here's a quote directly off a business laptop buying guide for 2023

"RAM: Skip any laptops with 2GB RAM, as they'll be frustrating to work on. Aim instead for laptops that have 4GB (good) or 8GB (even better). Some laptops come with 16GB, but that's not necessary for most business users."

Quote from Jaxidian :
You hit the nail on the head. If these were 16GB and 32GB as the options, it'd be better. 8GB is a bit of a crime these days for a "premium" device, which is what these are considered. That's really fixable if RAM was upgradable but kills the deal posted in this thread for most. It's kinda like a flagship phone shipping with only 64GB of storage these days. That's unacceptable and unfixable.
I understand what you are saying but same issue as I responded to the other poster with. While Zenbook is a premium device, this is not a premium model of it. The premium models have dedicated gpus because they are made for heavier usage. These are typically general usage or business laptops so I'm not understanding the complaints about low ram when you just don't need that much ram for the intended purposes.

I guess I have a separate question based on these responses. What are people using these for that needs more than 8gb of ram but does not need a dedicated gpu?
Jul 03, 2023 11:12 PM
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superslickzJul 03, 2023 11:12 PM
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Quote from psychism :
If your reasoning is this is a work laptop why does it need more than 8gb ram? I mean here's a quote directly off a business laptop buying guide for 2023

"RAM: Skip any laptops with 2GB RAM, as they'll be frustrating to work on. Aim instead for laptops that have 4GB (good) or 8GB (even better). Some laptops come with 16GB, but that's not necessary for most business users."



I understand what you are saying but same issue as I responded to the other poster with. While Zenbook is a premium device, this is not a premium model of it. The premium models have dedicated gpus because they are made for heavier usage. These are typically general usage or business laptops so I'm not understanding the complaints about low ram when you just don't need that much ram for the intended purposes.

I guess I have a separate question based on these responses. What are people using these for that needs more than 8gb of ram but does not need a dedicated gpu?
To have 50 tabs open in chrome?
Jul 03, 2023 11:43 PM
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fatbabyJul 03, 2023 11:43 PM
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Quote from psychism :
If your reasoning is this is a work laptop why does it need more than 8gb ram? I mean here's a quote directly off a business laptop buying guide for 2023

"RAM: Skip any laptops with 2GB RAM, as they'll be frustrating to work on. Aim instead for laptops that have 4GB (good) or 8GB (even better). Some laptops come with 16GB, but that's not necessary for most business users."



I guess I have a separate question based on these responses. What are people using these for that needs more than 8gb of ram but does not need a dedicated gpu?
Well, I got two laptops. One has 32GB, the other 16GB. I asked for a memory upgrade for 16GB laptop to our IT. 16GB is ok for most of the situations. I use multiple stat programs, whiteboard, and Zoom often together. (oh, several chrome tabs too Smilie) 16GB laptop struggles with this. I don't know where you get the recommendation. But, work can include a lot of different things.
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PaperLuigiJul 04, 2023 12:46 AM
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Quote from psychism :
If your reasoning is this is a work laptop why does it need more than 8gb ram? I mean here's a quote directly off a business laptop buying guide for 2023

"RAM: Skip any laptops with 2GB RAM, as they'll be frustrating to work on. Aim instead for laptops that have 4GB (good) or 8GB (even better). Some laptops come with 16GB, but that's not necessary for most business users."



I understand what you are saying but same issue as I responded to the other poster with. While Zenbook is a premium device, this is not a premium model of it. The premium models have dedicated gpus because they are made for heavier usage. These are typically general usage or business laptops so I'm not understanding the complaints about low ram when you just don't need that much ram for the intended purposes.

I guess I have a separate question based on these responses. What are people using these for that needs more than 8gb of ram but does not need a dedicated gpu?
I don't know what site that's from. But I suggest you stop reading it. Calling 4GB "good" in 2023 is a complete joke. 8GB is *adaquate* for general business use. Web browsing, Word, some light Excel, etc. But most users would benefit from 16GB and there are definitely users who could benefit from 32GB.

You can exceed 8GB of ram if you have more than a few programs open, if you open huge excel files, if you use virtual machines, or if you write code and use IDEs, emulators, and other tools.
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psychismJul 04, 2023 01:23 AM
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Quote from superslickz :
To have 50 tabs open in chrome?
Under 1gb per 10 tabs in any browser other than Safari which uses like 1.5gb per 10 so 50 tabs is 5gb of ram... You could still be editing a half dozen photos and however many documents you want with the leftover.

Quote from PaperLuigi :
I don't know what site that's from. But I suggest you stop reading it. Calling 4GB "good" in 2023 is a complete joke. 8GB is *adaquate* for general business use. Web browsing, Word, some light Excel, etc. But most users would benefit from 16GB and there are definitely users who could benefit from 32GB.

You can exceed 8GB of ram if you have more than a few programs open, if you open huge excel files, if you use virtual machines, or if you write code and use IDEs, emulators, and other tools.
Quote from fatbaby :
Well, I got two laptops. One has 32GB, the other 16GB. I asked for a memory upgrade for 16GB laptop to our IT. 16GB is ok for most of the situations. I use multiple stat programs, whiteboard, and Zoom often together. (oh, several chrome tabs too Smilie) 16GB laptop struggles with this. I don't know where you get the recommendation. But, work can include a lot of different things.
Based on your description I have a difficult time seeing ram being the issue. I don't know which stats programs you are using they might be huge databases. Other than that Zoom is the most intensive thing you named there and it can be run with multiple other programs while casually gaming on 8gb so the stats programs would need to be eating up a ton.

Even memory makers Kingston/Crucial (first 2 with info on google) list that level of usage as casual. It doesn't actually reach their gaming or professional needs category of 16gb. Their needs for 32gb are even more limited.

32gb Crucial: we recommend for serious gamers, engineers, scientists, and entry-level multimedia users. This level of RAM allows for these memory-hungry programs to run smoothly, even as your computer ages.

32gb Kingston: Software programming, Design Engineering, Digital Audio Workstations, Video Editing, Advanced Web and Database Development, Production level editing.
Last edited by psychism July 3, 2023 at 06:27 PM.
Jul 04, 2023 01:41 AM
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fatbabyJul 04, 2023 01:41 AM
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Quote from psychism :
Under 1gb per 10 tabs in any browser other than Safari which uses like 1.5gb per 10 so 50 tabs is 5gb of ram... You could still be editing a half dozen photos and however many documents you want with the leftover.




Based on your description I have a difficult time seeing ram being the issue. I don't know which stats programs you are using they might be huge databases. Other than that Zoom is the most intensive thing you named there and it can be run with multiple other programs while casually gaming on 8gb so the stats programs would need to be eating up a ton.

Even memory makers Kingston/Crucial (first 2 with info on google) list that level of usage as casual. It doesn't actually reach their gaming or professional needs category of 16gb. Their needs for 32gb are even more limited.

32gb Crucial: we recommend for serious gamers, engineers, scientists, and entry-level multimedia users. This level of RAM allows for these memory-hungry programs to run smoothly, even as your computer ages.

32gb Kingston: Software programming, Design Engineering, Digital Audio Workstations, Video Editing, Advanced Web and Database Development, Production level editing.
I can't remember that I raised an issue with how much RAM is necessary. I just compared two laptops with different amounts of RAMs. But, you kept mentioning GPU. The laptop on the deal doesn't have a GPU. So, I was curious why you keep mentioning it. Most business laptops do not have GPUs. That's why I said that you might be looking at something that you do not want. Most business laptops these days come with 8 or 16 GB. (I have no idea where you got the recommendation about 2 or 4 gb.) No matter what you do or think, more RAMs will give you convenience and depends on the user's need.

I am not here to discuss what kinds of jobs you do with your laptop. I had to mention my case because you asked for it. But, don't ever think that those recommendations give you the answer. They are just for references.
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Jul 04, 2023 01:54 AM
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psychismJul 04, 2023 01:54 AM
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Quote from fatbaby :
I can't remember that I raised an issue with how much RAM is necessary. I just compared two laptops with different amounts of RAMs. But, you kept mentioning GPU. The laptop on the deal doesn't have a GPU. So, I was curious why you keep mentioning it. Most business laptops do not have GPUs. That's why I said that you might be looking at something that you do not want. Most business laptops these days come with 8 or 16 GB. (I have no idea where you got the recommendation about 2 or 4 gb.) No matter what you do or think, more RAMs will give you convenience and depends on the user's need.
I am not here to discuss what kinds of jobs you do with your laptop. I had to mention my case because you asked for it. But, don't ever think that those recommendations give you the answer. They are just for references.
I'm aware, I appreciate the response. I brought up the GPU originally because the Zenbook line has a lot of dedicated GPU options. This Zenbook does not have a dedicated GPU which as you completely correctly state makes it a primarily business laptop for non intensive business use. The original recommendation for ram was straight from a business news buying guide from February 2023, a quote search on google brings the entire article right up. Unless I misunderstood your original post the implication was that 8gb is not an option for you as even 16gb simply wasn't enough for your business usage and you needed 32gb. My point in presenting actual needs numbers is that if you do actually need 32gb you have an extremely high need in your line of work compared to what is considered normal by memory manufacturers.

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superslickzJul 04, 2023 02:18 AM
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Quote from psychism :
Under 1gb per 10 tabs in any browser other than Safari which uses like 1.5gb per 10 so 50 tabs is 5gb of ram... You could still be editing a half dozen photos and however many documents you want with the leftover.
You are looking at theoretical values but in reality it can make a difference. i am by no means a power user. I do open a lot of chrome tabs. My desktop computer with 8gb memory was really starting to bog down a year ago. Loading pages was very slow with intermittent freezing. I had to close some of the tabs to continue to browse normally. That was the first clue that some pages were hogging up memory. I finally decided to add an 8gb memory stick to become 16gb total. Poof...all of my freezing and slow browsing completely disappeared. One year later I am still using the same computer with no slowdowns, so I know the extra 8gb memory definitely helped.
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mrchiltuJul 04, 2023 03:22 AM
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How does the zenbook i17 16GB value at $800?

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6543526
Jul 04, 2023 01:39 PM
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nimbus001Jul 04, 2023 01:39 PM
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There is a FP deal HP without the OLED and 16GB of ram for same price or with OLED for 670-680.
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fatbabyJul 04, 2023 05:03 PM
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Quote from psychism :
I'm aware, I appreciate the response. I brought up the GPU originally because the Zenbook line has a lot of dedicated GPU options. This Zenbook does not have a dedicated GPU which as you completely correctly state makes it a primarily business laptop for non intensive business use. The original recommendation for ram was straight from a business news buying guide from February 2023, a quote search on google brings the entire article right up. Unless I misunderstood your original post the implication was that 8gb is not an option for you as even 16gb simply wasn't enough for your business usage and you needed 32gb. My point in presenting actual needs numbers is that if you do actually need 32gb you have an extremely high need in your line of work compared to what is considered normal by memory manufacturers.
If you are interested in a similar spec, check on this at Costco.

https://www.costco.com/Acer-Swift...56763.html

The difference is the OP deal CPU is 13th gen and touch display. With $100 less, you get 16GB memory and non-touch display.

This was my first post. I mentioned my case because you and another poster ridiculed who would need more RAMs and asked what kinds of jobs ppl are doing in response to my post. I know that my case is not a typical one. That's why I mentioned 16GB would be enough for most, and that is the one I ordered for my son.

Also, when you google some information, you want to take a look at multiple sources. NYT, PC mag, Computer word, and laptop mag all recommend at least 8GB. Some mentioned 4GB as bare minimum. If you think less than 8GB is enough, probably you want to go for a Chromebook or other tablets.
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Jul 04, 2023 07:23 PM
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psychismJul 04, 2023 07:23 PM
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Quote from fatbaby :
Also, when you google some information, you want to take a look at multiple sources. NYT, PC mag, Computer word, and laptop mag all recommend at least 8GB. Some mentioned 4GB as bare minimum. If you think less than 8GB is enough, probably you want to go for a Chromebook or other tablets.
This Zenbook has 8gb which is what you are saying every other source you checked suggested. It is also what all the ones I checked suggested including the memory makers which should bias towards suggesting more than you need. I appreciate you also checking around but I don't see how the results change the original confusion on why people think 8gb is a uselessly low amount of ram and not worth purchasing solely due to having 8gb of ram.

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You are looking at theoretical values but in reality it can make a difference. i am by no means a power user. I do open a lot of chrome tabs. My desktop computer with 8gb memory was really starting to bog down a year ago. Loading pages was very slow with intermittent freezing. I had to close some of the tabs to continue to browse normally. That was the first clue that some pages were hogging up memory. I finally decided to add an 8gb memory stick to become 16gb total. Poof...all of my freezing and slow browsing completely disappeared. One year later I am still using the same computer with no slowdowns, so I know the extra 8gb memory definitely helped.
I'm using theoretical values because I can copy paste them straight from buying guides and memory manufacturer sites which bias towards suggesting higher since they are the ones selling it. But so far I see a lot of people post on this thread (and most others) post about how the deal doesn't have enough ram. I'm going to post a real world example here to go along with the memory manufacturers suggested needs scenarios.
What I'm doing right now I'm doing on a Dell Optiplex which is a pretty standard business and office use PC that is terribly maintained and appears to possibly have a case made of dust. It has 8gb of ram and an i5 processor that appears to frequently overheat because it's heatsink is also apparently made of dust. It's a perfect example of a completely competent business PC that no one has ever cared about. I opened 23 tabs in Firefox. 10 Youtube, 10 Amazon, 3 Slickdeals. Someone has left both Chrome and Edge open to their gmail accounts and some chat site. I have 3 PDFs. 2 spreadsheets (neither giant) and a word document. I'm using 65% of my ram per task manager. I'm not saying that no one uses more ram than this. When I do 3D modelling/rendering I'm maxing out 64gb but that is a pretty specialized scenario. I'm just lost on why the above scenario with 8gb of ram isn't completely fine for most peoples usage. If your scenario the troubleshooting I would do would be for your existing ram stick may have simply been failing. Did you use any programs to check your actual memory usage? Try the new 8gb stick on it's own before adding it in with the existing one? Run a memtest to check the function of the ram? In your case adding ram worked so it's kind of irrelevant but without troubleshooting those are the same problems that can be virus issues, cpu and/or mobo issues, failing psu. etc.
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Quote from psychism :
I'm using theoretical values because I can copy paste them straight from buying guides and memory manufacturer sites which bias towards suggesting higher since they are the ones selling it. But so far I see a lot of people post on this thread (and most others) post about how the deal doesn't have enough ram. I'm going to post a real world example here to go along with the memory manufacturers suggested needs scenarios.
What I'm doing right now I'm doing on a Dell Optiplex which is a pretty standard business and office use PC that is terribly maintained and appears to possibly have a case made of dust. It has 8gb of ram and an i5 processor that appears to frequently overheat because it's heatsink is also apparently made of dust. It's a perfect example of a completely competent business PC that no one has ever cared about. I opened 23 tabs in Firefox. 10 Youtube, 10 Amazon, 3 Slickdeals. Someone has left both Chrome and Edge open to their gmail accounts and some chat site. I have 3 PDFs. 2 spreadsheets (neither giant) and a word document. I'm using 65% of my ram per task manager. I'm not saying that no one uses more ram than this. When I do 3D modelling/rendering I'm maxing out 64gb but that is a pretty specialized scenario. I'm just lost on why the above scenario with 8gb of ram isn't completely fine for most peoples usage. If your scenario the troubleshooting I would do would be for your existing ram stick may have simply been failing. Did you use any programs to check your actual memory usage? Try the new 8gb stick on it's own before adding it in with the existing one? Run a memtest to check the function of the ram? In your case adding ram worked so it's kind of irrelevant but without troubleshooting those are the same problems that can be virus issues, cpu and/or mobo issues, failing psu. etc.
There are so many variables involved in memory usage that posting your SPECIFIC scenario doesn't mean anything. You should always be looking for worst case scenario. But if it works for you, then great stick to 8gb for as long as you want, but don't tell other people that because it works for you, it will work for other people. Everyone has different needs and uses. Every website uses different amount of memory, even the same website can use different amount on different days depending on the ad that is shown.

I did say "CAN make a difference". Not everyone may see a difference, but it certainly can, and in my example, it definitely did.

Also, I did say 50 tabs. 23 tabs are literally less than half of that. But no need to quibble over that.
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psychismJul 04, 2023 07:58 PM
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Quote from superslickz :
There are so many variables involved in memory usage that posting your SPECIFIC scenario doesn't mean anything. You should always be looking for worst case scenario. But if it works for you, then great stick to 8gb for as long as you want, but don't tell other people that because it works for you, it will work for other people. Everyone has different needs and uses. Every website uses different amount of memory, even the same website can use different amount on different days depending on the ad that is shown.

I did say "CAN make a difference". Not everyone may see a difference, but it certainly can, and in my example, it definitely did.

Also, I did say 50 tabs. 23 tabs are literally less than half of that. But no need to quibble over that.
So buying guides and memory manufacturer suggestions aren't real world so you discredit them since they suggest 8gb. I post a real world scenario in response as I happened to have a business pc with 8gb of ram handy (Update 50 tabs used 87%) and that doesn't mean anything because it's a personal example and that is meaningless and shouldn't be used... What exactly is your example? What are the 2 pages of people telling people specifically not to buy this laptop because it has 8gb of ram which according to them is absolutely not enough for anything at all? My post was wondering why people think that and giving both theoretical and real world scenarios of what 8gb of ram is used for with no issues at all. I have no idea where you got that I'm saying more ram can't make a difference. I max out 64gb on a regular basis but I'm not the target user for this laptop so I'm not going to come on the thread for a general use ultrabook and go "8gb of ram I wouldn't even be able to do custom 3D modelling on that what a useless laptop".

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So buying guides and memory manufacturer suggestions aren't real world so you discredit them since they suggest 8gb. I post a real world scenario in response as I happened to have a business pc with 8gb of ram handy (Update 50 tabs used 87%) and that doesn't mean anything because it's a personal example and that is meaningless and shouldn't be used... What exactly is your example? What are the 2 pages of people telling people specifically not to buy this laptop because it has 8gb of ram which according to them is absolutely not enough for anything at all? My post was wondering why people think that and giving both theoretical and real world scenarios of what 8gb of ram is used for with no issues at all. I have no idea where you got that I'm saying more ram can't make a difference. I max out 64gb on a regular basis but I'm not the target user for this laptop so I'm not going to come on the thread for a general use ultrabook and go "8gb of ram I wouldn't even be able to do custom 3D modelling on that what a useless laptop".
First off, chillax.

Secondly, as i have already said, if it works for you, then great, stick with 8gb. If it doesn't work for other people, then it doesn't work for other people. Why is it that if it works for you, you must on insisting it works for other people? People have different reasons for wanting 16gb+, why can't you accept that? Please stop with this the world only revolves around me culture.

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