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TCL 65" QM8 Series 4K Mini-LED QLED HDR Google TV @ Best Buy $1199.99
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TCL 65" QM8 Series 4K Mini-LED QLED HDR Google TV $1199.99 (Free S & H)
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Rtings QM8 Series Review: 8.3/10
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Key Specs:
Resolution: 4K UHD (3840 x 2160p)
Refresh rate: Native 120Hz (up to 144Hz gaming)
QLED Technology
Mini-LED Backlighting w/ Local Dimming
HDR: HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, Dolby Vision IQ, HGL
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Rtings QM8 Series Review: 8.3/10
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews...m850g-qled
Key Specs:
Resolution: 4K UHD (3840 x 2160p)
Refresh rate: Native 120Hz (up to 144Hz gaming)
QLED Technology
Mini-LED Backlighting w/ Local Dimming
HDR: HDR10, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, Dolby Vision IQ, HGL
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QM8 has it beat on the specs side of things, but it's $100 more.
So QM8 is likely better, but Hisense is a better value.
It will be interesting to see if Hisense drops 65U8K from $1100 to $1000 & TCL 65QM8 is still sitting at $1200. They can keep it there if the quality difference is significant, otherwise they may be forced to drop the price to keep competing with Hisense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2zAOkj
The price difference between the Hisesne and the TCL is pretty significant
I am thinking you can get a Samsung QN90B for the price of the TCL
U8H originally scored 8.7 overall, then they went back & rescored it with a new method & dropped it to 8.3. QM8 was scored with the new method only & scored 8.3 overall.
I don't think anyone would say the U8H is equivalent to the QM8, with double the dimming zones & better processing, so that's an issue
Rtings scored qd-oled & MLA OLED at 9.1 or 9.2, so this gives them back more room between plain QLED & MLA OLED & QD-OLED scores.
In their defense it's tough, tech is changing and what is a 8/10 TV 10 years ago is not an 8/10 TV today. I don't know if there is really a good way to compare TVs from different years.
U8H originally scored 8.7 overall, then they went back & rescored it with a new method & dropped it to 8.3. QM8 was scored with the new method only & scored 8.3 overall.
I don't think anyone would say the U8H is equivalent to the QM8, with double the dimming zones & better processing, so that's an issue
Rtings scored qd-oled & MLA OLED at 9.1 or 9.2, so this gives them back more room between plain QLED & MLA OLED & QD-OLED scores.
Additionally, what you need to take into account is what you value
For me..picture quality trumps features. So I am hyper focused on panel uniformity, upscaling, color accuracy, motion.
While others may value gaming features and accept lower picture quality measurement
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For people not gaming the U8H is probably a better bang for the buck but those two issues are a deal breaker for me.
If you choose the latter, you get full color depth, but it halves 4K resolution at 120Hz. If you choose the former, you get true 4K120, but the color depth is noticeably reduced. I haven't been able to quantify it (I don't know if it's 4:2:0 or something else), and you can somewhat calibrate around it (blacks look very raised at first), but it's not perfect.
The VRR/local dimming issue was fixed in a firmware update. I can't personally confirm as I no longer own my Hisense, but it was pretty widely discussed on the Hisense subreddit.
I have no experience with TCL, so I can't speak to the ownership experience. I liked my Hisense a lot--it was a shockingly good picture and feature set for what I paid--but I knew I was gambling. Quality control appears to be really variable. So just keep that mind if you want to purchase one: if you care about cutting edge features AND want to "set and forget", Hisense are *not* the TVs for you. It took a series of firmwares and tweaks before I felt like the TV behaved the way I wanted it.
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I think your research is right on. I'd make the switch in a heartbeat.
If you choose the latter, you get full color depth, but it halves 4K resolution at 120Hz. If you choose the former, you get true 4K120, but the color depth is noticeably reduced. I haven't been able to quantify it (I don't know if it's 4:2:0 or something else), and you can somewhat calibrate around it (blacks look very raised at first), but it's not perfect.
The VRR/local dimming issue was fixed in a firmware update. I can't personally confirm as I no longer own my Hisense, but it was pretty widely discussed on the Hisense subreddit.
I have no experience with TCL, so I can't speak to the ownership experience. I liked my Hisense a lot--it was a shockingly good picture and feature set for what I paid--but I knew I was gambling. Quality control appears to be really variable. So just keep that mind if you want to purchase one: if you care about cutting edge features AND want to "set and forget", Hisense are *not* the TVs for you. It took a series of firmwares and tweaks before I felt like the TV behaved the way I wanted it.
65C2 & 65C3 are still ~$1000 more new
Per ccc in april:
"Lowest * $1,543.96 Apr 14, 2023"
Also, I bet the TCL will be a bigger upgrade than you think. I have a Samsung KS8000 which is about 7 years old and considered one of if not the best of it's time (even has quantum dots). I bought the $200 (last Black Friday deal) TCL S546 for my kid and I had to admit that the picture overall was as good or better than my Samsung. Contrast ratio and local dimming (not to mention the jump to quantum dots that you will experience) have a greater impact on picture quality than color accuracy, which is somewhat relative. Didn't notice any obvious motion issues in my brief testing, but I guess if you're really sensitive to that you might notice something.
I may look to upgrade sooner than later because I need/want a tv in my basement and the ks8000 will probably be moved there, but yeah at the time the ks8000 was pound for pound the best around.
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I may look to upgrade sooner than later because I need/want a tv in my basement and the ks8000 will probably be moved there, but yeah at the time the ks8000 was pound for pound the best around.
Any idea which firmware you're on with the KS8000? I never updated mine, but I remember at least one was great, one nerfed the tv, and then another brought it back close to it's peak performance.