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ASUS TUF A16 Laptop: 16" FHD+ 165Hz, Ryzen 7 7735HS, RX 7600S, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD

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Best Buy via eBay has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $729.99 (price in cart). Shipping is free.

Best Buy has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $729.99. Shipping is free.Thanks to community member Dr.Wajahat for finding this deal.

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  • AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile Processor (8-core/16-thread, 16MB L3 cache, up to 4.7 GHz max boost)
  • 16" FHD+ (1920 x 1200, WUXGA) 16:10, 165Hz 7ms, 100% sRGB, 75.35% Adobe, FreeSync Premium, MUX Switch + AMD Smart Access Graphics
  • 16GB DDR5-4800 SO-DIMM (2x 8GB), Max Capacity: 24GB
  • 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon RX 7600S, up to 95W (SmartShift), 8GB GDDR6
  • Wi-Fi 6(802.11ax) (Dual band) 2*2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • 720P HD camera
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard Single Light Touchpad
  • 90WHrs, 4-cell Li-ion
  • 2.20 Kg (4.85 lbs.)
  • Ports:
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort / power delivery
    • 1x RJ45 LAN port

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Best Buy via eBay has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $729.99 (price in cart). Shipping is free.

Best Buy has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $729.99. Shipping is free.Thanks to community member Dr.Wajahat for finding this deal.

Specs (source):
  • AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile Processor (8-core/16-thread, 16MB L3 cache, up to 4.7 GHz max boost)
  • 16" FHD+ (1920 x 1200, WUXGA) 16:10, 165Hz 7ms, 100% sRGB, 75.35% Adobe, FreeSync Premium, MUX Switch + AMD Smart Access Graphics
  • 16GB DDR5-4800 SO-DIMM (2x 8GB), Max Capacity: 24GB
  • 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon RX 7600S, up to 95W (SmartShift), 8GB GDDR6
  • Wi-Fi 6(802.11ax) (Dual band) 2*2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • 720P HD camera
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard Single Light Touchpad
  • 90WHrs, 4-cell Li-ion
  • 2.20 Kg (4.85 lbs.)
  • Ports:
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort / power delivery
    • 1x RJ45 LAN port

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Model: ASUS - TUF Gaming A16 16" FHD 165Hz Gaming Laptop-AMD Ryzen 7-16GB DDR5 Memory-AMD Radeon RX7600S V8G-512GB PCIe SSD - OFF BLACK

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The one guy who gave a review on Best Buy ran some benchmarks. He got 10,350 in Timespy graphics, vs ~9,200 for the 7600S I've seen in other reviews. So about 12.5%. I'd definitely pay 5% more for the 7700S. It's right at 4060 and 3070 Ti level.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6560989

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Rad...598.0.html

The 7700 has 14% more compute units, boosts to a higher speed, and has faster ram. Theoretically it should be faster than that... but it would need more power than the 7600, and if they have the same cooling hardware that won't be possible, since the 7600 version is already at the limit.

The bigger GPUs have better speed/W generally. 4070 is better than 4060 which is better than 4050 in efficiency. And they are all more efficient at lower wattage than higher.
In everything I've seen it's about the same, and faster than a 4050. For the money this is definitely a good deal. Good screen, good battery life, etc.

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Seems like it dropped a bit more in price now:

New: $729.99
OpenBox: $663.99
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I was able to get the RX7700S version of this last week when it was on sale. Is the RX7700S worth the $50 upgrade over the RX7600S?
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EDIT: Disregard what I wrote before. I just found out about the 7700s version that Best Buy put up for sale a few days ago that doesn't have the upgraded CPU and screen. Not clear how the 7600s and 7700s compare in real world performance so not sure if $50 is worth it.
Last edited by FancyArm271 December 4, 2023 at 08:12 PM.
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Grabbed a couple of the excellent condition open box models for $679. Looking forward to the setups.
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Quote from MattysDaddy :
I was able to get the RX7700S version of this last week when it was on sale. Is the RX7700S worth the $50 upgrade over the RX7600S?
Quote from FancyArm271 :
EDIT: Disregard what I wrote before. I just found out about the 7700s version that Best Buy put up for sale a few days ago that doesn't have the upgraded CPU and screen. Not clear how the 7600s and 7700s compare in real world performance so not sure if $50 is worth it.
On paper, the 7700S is 30% faster than the 7600S and is on par with the RTX 4060, more or less. It also has better thermal efficiency. So, yes $50 is worth the upgrade if you can afford it. Otherwise, this is still a very capable gaming laptop too.
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Quote from Dr.Wajahat :
On paper, the 7700S is 30% faster than the 7600S and is on par with the RTX 4060, more or less. It also has better thermal efficiency. So, yes $50 is worth the upgrade if you can afford it. Otherwise, this is still a very capable gaming laptop too.
Thanks for chiming in. May I ask where you see that the 7700s has better thermal efficiency? Notebookcheck says that the 7600s and 7700s are both based on the exact same chip with the 7600s effectively being a cut down 7700s with a lower power draw limit.
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I also recently bought the model with the 7700s, but that price for the open box doesn't look bad. Wish someone had comparison videos of the 2.
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Quote from MattysDaddy :
I was able to get the RX7700S version of this last week when it was on sale. Is the RX7700S worth the $50 upgrade over the RX7600S?
The one guy who gave a review on Best Buy ran some benchmarks. He got 10,350 in Timespy graphics, vs ~9,200 for the 7600S I've seen in other reviews. So about 12.5%. I'd definitely pay 5% more for the 7700S. It's right at 4060 and 3070 Ti level.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6560989

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Rad...598.0.html

The 7700 has 14% more compute units, boosts to a higher speed, and has faster ram. Theoretically it should be faster than that... but it would need more power than the 7600, and if they have the same cooling hardware that won't be possible, since the 7600 version is already at the limit.

The bigger GPUs have better speed/W generally. 4070 is better than 4060 which is better than 4050 in efficiency. And they are all more efficient at lower wattage than higher.
Last edited by rruff December 4, 2023 at 10:01 PM.
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Quote from FancyArm271 :
EDIT: Disregard what I wrote before. I just found out about the 7700s version that Best Buy put up for sale a few days ago that doesn't have the upgraded CPU and screen. Not clear how the 7600s and 7700s compare in real world performance so not sure if $50 is worth it.
By my best guess, it's worth about $50. The chip in the 7700S is pretty similar to the desktop RX 7600. There's nothing really within $50 in AMD's portfolio though, so comparing is tough. If you care about graphics, it's probably not worth the hassle of switching.

All modern mobile GPUs ranked, with descriptions: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mob...844.0.html

Considering they're the same platform, any power usage discussions are probably irrelevant.
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Quote from rruff :
The one guy who gave a review on Best Buy ran some benchmarks. He got 10,350 in Timespy graphics, vs ~9,200 for the 7600S I've seen in other reviews. So about 12.5%. I'd definitely pay 5% more for the 7700S. It's right at 4060 and 3070 Ti level.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6560989

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Rad...598.0.html

The 7700 has 14% more compute units, boosts to a higher speed, and has faster ram. Theoretically it should be faster than that... but it would need more power than the 7600, and if they have the same cooling hardware that won't be possible, since the 7600 version is already at the limit.

The bigger GPUs have better speed/W generally. 4070 is better than 4060 which is better than 4050 in efficiency. And they are all more efficient at lower wattage than higher.
I was about to say that it theoretically should be about 14% faster. Of course, it's always diminishing returns with larger chips, so 12.5% sounds about spot on.
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Personally, I was hoping for RTX 3060 laptops around $500. This is similar and $200 higher. But no great offerings ever showed up, so this is about the best deal I've seen for a capable mobile GPU. If I needed to buy, I'd probably bite on this. But my old one is still chugging, so I'll wait.
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When Gizmo tested this laptop, the GPU seemed to be capped in the low 90W range, but that might just be a consequence of the total (CPU and GPU) cap of 120W. In other words the GPU probably can go to 120W in theory, if the CPU has zero load. Max temps were in the high 70s for the GPU, and 95 on the CPU when gaming.

Having a combined power limit is weird isn't it? I know my MSI isn't like that. The GPU and CPU have independent limits.

Generally I don't like being power or temperature limited because it tends to cause glitches. The CPU can't be undervolted unfortunately, but Afterburner should work fine on the GPU. I haven't seen anyone try UC and OC though.
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Quote from rruff :
When Gizmo tested this laptop, the GPU seemed to be capped in the low 90W range, but that might just be a consequence of the total (CPU and GPU) cap of 120W. In other words the GPU probably can go to 120W in theory, if the CPU has zero load. Max temps were in the high 70s for the GPU, and 95 on the CPU when gaming.

Having a combined power limit is weird isn't it? I know my MSI isn't like that. The GPU and CPU have independent limits.

Generally I don't like being power or temperature limited because it tends to cause glitches. The CPU can't be undervolted unfortunately, but Afterburner should work fine on the GPU. I haven't seen anyone try UC and OC though.
That's the thing, in a laptop in particular, the limits are never truly independent. Heat is heat, and the cooling system can only move so much. It usually goes out one or two small vents, with one or two shared fans, and often times a shared combined heatsink. The combined "limit" allows the CPU and GPU to load balance to maximize overall throughput, instead of letting one chip produce all of the heat even if it's not the throughput bottleneck.
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Just a few general questions here because I have seen some prices now for gaming laptops lower than BF deals..and for the official Cyber Monday deals:
* I have seen the ASUS Tuf A16, AMD Advantage now drop to $729; Lenovo LOQ 15", Ryzen 7, RTX 4050 drop to $699; There's an
ROG Zephyrus G15 Ryzen 9, RTX 3060 at BB for under $700, used; and the Nitro V 15", i5-13420H, RTX 4050 is available at around $849.99

What do you guys think is the best budget gaming laptop on SD now? ..Or are there more viable deals likely coming after New Years from Retailers to get rid of older models for people like me?

** I have not gamed or did much with a PC since 1998..and never have owned a laptop.
My general usage would probably be playing Diablo II: Resurrected.
Which likely can run at optimal settings on a late gen. i3 processor and a GTX 1080 GPU.
*** (Since my future usage will be more, but currently unknown) I think the only other thing that I would need from my gaming laptop would be that I might do some game streaming for YouTube (minor photo and video editing) and perhaps have a dozen web pages open during gameplay.
- I may also use it at school while being enrolled in cabinet making.

I want something that's going to work for me at least for a few years.
I likely will upgrade the RAM, WiFi card, and also the SSD etc. And if it's the LOQ, maybe upgrade the screen?
$500-800 is the range. So the deals now are in my range.

Also, sorry for the long message, I am pretty new here so I didn't post any links because I haven't read up on the rules.
I am just asking opinions though. Not advice. I would ask that on a tech forum.
Thanks.
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