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Walmart has Epson EpiqVision Mini EF12 3LCD Portable Projector (Refurbished) on clearance for $248.76. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member charlesf718 for finding this deal.

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Condition Notes (per the product page):
  • This product may not have been manufacturer certified but has been professionally inspected, tested and cleaned by Walmart Restored Program Sellers and Suppliers
  • Fully functional product in Like New Condition. Item may have very light micro-scratches, invisible at a distance of 8-12 inches (arm's length).
  • This product may include accessories which might not be original but will be compatible and fully functional.
  • This product may be returned within 90 days for free return or replacement if you are not satisfied.
  • Battery capacity exceeds 80% capacity relative to its new equivalent
Features:
  • Stunning picture quality up to 150 inches: Delivers an immersive viewing experience for TV shows, sporting events, gaming, and movies by accepting content up to 4K for an amazing Full-HD HDR picture.
  • Advanced scene adaptive color correction: Automatic scene-based color correction produces a clear and natural picture – regardless of the content being played.
  • True 3-chip projector design: Advanced 3LCD technology displays 100% of the RGB color signal for every frame. This allows for outstanding color accuracy while maintaining excellent color brightness, without any distracting "rainbowing" or "color brightness" issues seen with other projection technologies.
  • Auto picture skew and focus correction: Depending upon how you orient the projector to the wall, the projector will analyze the projected image and correct the geometry, while automatically focusing the picture for a beautiful viewing experience.
  • Chromecast™ built-in: Wirelessly cast your favorite content directly from your smartphone, tablet, or computer – including from popular Android™ and Apple devices (3).
  • Sound by Yamaha: Custom-designed audiophile speaker system offers a powerful and emotional performance that rivals soundbars; connect via Bluetooth to use as a standalone speaker.
  • Built-in Android TV (1): Latest Android TV interface with a simple-to-use remote – including voice search with built-in Google Assistant™. Watch all your favorite streaming channels including Hulu, HBO, YouTube, and more. Even stream live TV with apps like YouTube TV™ (2).
  • Elegant compact design: Designed with simplicity in mind, the Epson EpiqVision Mini EF12 streaming laser projector has a clean, compact, and modern design to beautifully fit within any decor.
  • Epson MicroLaser™ array technology: Unique multi-array laser diode technology produces an exceptional level of brightness while significantly enhancing the black density.
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I've been following this projector on many sites for a couple of months now. Usually sells on eBay for around $500 used…. I currently have 1 and it's great. 1080p resolution, but plays 4k files! If you want to use Ethernet, you need a usb to Ethernet adapter. Just Bought another to flip, and wanted to share a great deal with fellow SDers! Enjoy!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/1654298004
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04-18-2024 at 06:15 AM.

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04-18-2024 at 06:15 AM.
https://www.projectorcentral.com/...i_EF12.htm has these specs:
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White Brightness 1,000 Lumens (ISO)2
Color Brightness 1,000 Lumens3 CLO
Resolution 1920x1080
Aspect Ratio 16:9 (HD)
Dynamic Contrast 200,000:1
Display Type 0.62" 3LCD
Color Processing 10-bit
Input Lag 1080p/60: 111ms
Video Modes 720p, 1080i, 1080p/60, 1080p/24, 1080p/30, 1080p/50, 2160p/24, 2160p/60, 576i, 576p, 480p, 480i
Data Modes MAX 4096x2160

Lamp Type Laser Phosphor
Lamp Life 20,000 hours

Included Lens Fixed focal length , Powered focus
Optional Lenses No
Lens Shift No
Throw Distance 2.2' - 10.9' Calculate Throw Distance
Image Size 30.01" - 149.94"
Throw Ratio 1.00:1 (D:W)
Digital Keystone Horizontal & Vertical

Projector Size 5.30" x 6.90" x 6.90" (HxWxD)
Weight 4.7 lbs
Audible Noise 27 dB / 22 dB (Eco)
Internal Speakers 5.0 Watts × 2
Power 102 Watts 100V - 240V
Connection Panel Audio Out: Mini Jack
HDMI x 2
USB x 2
Wireless Networking

Features
  • Short-Throw
  • Geometric Correction
  • HDR
  • Auto Focus
  • Streaming Apps
  • Google Assistant
This is a fantastic price for a 1080, 1000 ANSI Lunens projector with the low noise output. Also, Epson is a reputable projector company, so these aren't made up specs like all those cheap ones on amazon. To me, the only negative is that this is an android device. Just get all the updates you can BEFORE use and stick with a wired HDMI connection. Don't use wifi if you care about privacy.
I had a few LCD projectors before switching to a lamp-based Epson that can be replaced. LCD-based projectors have a specific life span - 20K hours for this model. Nobody really knows how long it will last, but at least 20K hours. That's lower than claimed by some no-name projectors, but those marketing people will claim 6000 Lunens of brightness when their projectors are closer to 400 ANSI Lunens. Also, reputable projector companies make models that last more than 1-2 yrs. Think my Epson 1080 is 5 yrs old and it was 2+ yrs used when we got it. It has 2800 Lunens, for comparison. We found that too bright and always run in eco mode to lengthen the bulb life. If you can control the lighting in a room, 550 ANSI Lunens and higher are good enough. Brighter seems to always be better, Cheaper, Chinese no-name (annually they change their manufacturer name to avoid warranty claims) all lie about Lumens, sharpness, colors, and fan noise. The more they claim "quiet fans", the more likely they are lying and you can expect 55dB noise. That's been my experience.

Fan noise is always an issue with all projectors. Get it as low as possible. Under 30dB is best. Much over 35dB and you'll always hear the fan ... it is like the old sync lines on SONY Trinitron TVs/Monitors. Once someone pointed those out, all you can see at 1/3 and 2/3 height on the screen is the tiny, thing, sync lines.

Forget about the speakers in any projectors. If you are going to the effort to have a projector, go to the effort to have good sound too.

Assuming these projectors actually work "like new", this is a bargain. I'm tempted to have a spare.

Reputable projectors always - ALWAYS - spell out their ANSI LUNs and honest fan noise dBs. Optoma, Epson, Viewsonic, BenQ, and Nebula (Anker) is building a good name, for what they sell, but watch out for cheap versions. There might be a few brands I forgot. Sorry. If they sell for less than $350 normally, it is likely a Chinese cheapo, knock off projector. If you have any interest, spend less than $100 to try a 1080 or 720p cheap projector. Then decide if you want to spend for a quality projector. A well filled with a huge movie is vastly different than a 65inch TV - just saying. I never plan to have a TV in the house again. Projectors have ruined TVs for me.
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PaulG
04-18-2024 at 06:20 AM.
04-18-2024 at 06:20 AM.
Quote from gibsonbass :
Keep in mind this item is eligible for exchange only if opened or used.
I already ordered the E11 so I guess it's too late for me.

But if mine is defective, it's going back to the local store and we're going to fight. Cause it reads this:

This product may be returned within 90 days for free return or replacement if you are not satisfied.

Backed by 90-day free return to enable shopping with confidence.


If they're selling me a defective refurb and won't refund the money, we're going to have problems. Buying with confidence, to me, means I can get my money back on a defective refurb.
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gibsonbass
04-18-2024 at 06:41 AM.
04-18-2024 at 06:41 AM.
Quote from PaulG :
I already ordered the E11 so I guess it's too late for me.

But if mine is dehfective, it's going back to the local store and we're going to fight. Cause it reads this:

This product may be returned within 90 days for free return or replacement if you are not satisfied.

Backed by 90-day free return to enable shopping with confidence.


If they're selling me a defective refurb and won't refund the money, we're going to have problems. Buying with confidence, to me, means I can get my money back on a defective refurb.
I guess if you Claim item is defective, they have to accept the return. It is not like they will test the projector to verify your claim.
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04-18-2024 at 06:43 AM.
04-18-2024 at 06:43 AM.
Quote from gibsonbass :
I guess if you Claim item is defective, they have to accept the return. It is not like they will test the projector to verify your claim.
I'm not going to return it if it works. But being a refurb, I do fear it having 50 dead pixels or 15,000 hours on it. I would assume you can check the hours on it. So I only plan on returning it if there's a very valid reason.
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04-18-2024 at 07:08 AM.
04-18-2024 at 07:08 AM.
Quote from Arcanlaw :
Got a $50 projector last year for pool parties: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07WRKSZ3D

Works great. Will this one be better? I'd like a little brighter, although the lm rating on this is 1000 and my $50 thing advertises like 4500lm
You gotta get with it, the upgraded version is now 12,000L! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CCXYZ...i_atc&th=1

I hope you know that number is just complete bs, the epson is going to be a *much* brighter projector with a better picture... but for obviously alot more $.
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tbone16
04-18-2024 at 07:41 AM.
04-18-2024 at 07:41 AM.
By the way for returns, my projector has shipped and it already gives me online return options.

I selected the used option for condition and reason as being no longer wanted. Says it will give me a full refund and can return to store, ship via FedEx or USPS all for free. YMMV though.

I guess worst case if I don't like it and they don't accept return, I'll just sell on eBay and probably easily make my money back
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jbizzle
04-18-2024 at 07:42 AM.
04-18-2024 at 07:42 AM.
Quote from FancyHerring5969 :
For this price, if you need a portable speaker it's a steal. The brightness is a little dim though. If you don't need portability, around this price, you can get a PT-RZ370U with low hours off eBay, which is highly recommended for a starter/budget projector. Since it was made for commercial use, they're beasts. Great quality and last forever. Plus can be found relatively cheap since they're not on everyones radar. I'm currently using that + a firestick and love it.
If you don't mind, What would you consider a low amount of hours on a commercial projector? Thanks
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Arcanlaw
04-18-2024 at 07:46 AM.
04-18-2024 at 07:46 AM.
No way to mount this thing with a tripod?
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04-18-2024 at 07:47 AM.
04-18-2024 at 07:47 AM.
Quote from FancyHerring5969 :
For this price, if you need a portable speaker it's a steal. The brightness is a little dim though. If you don't need portability, around this price, you can get a PT-RZ370U with low hours off eBay, which is highly recommended for a starter/budget projector. Since it was made for commercial use, they're beasts. Great quality and last forever. Plus can be found relatively cheap since they're not on everyones radar. I'm currently using that + a firestick and love it.
I'm seeing that model for twice this price on ebay... where you seeing it for $250?
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04-18-2024 at 07:48 AM.
04-18-2024 at 07:48 AM.
Quote from FancyHerring5969 :
For this price, if you need a portable speaker it's a steal. The brightness is a little dim though. If you don't need portability, around this price, you can get a PT-RZ370U with low hours off eBay, which is highly recommended for a starter/budget projector. Since it was made for commercial use, they're beasts. Great quality and last forever. Plus can be found relatively cheap since they're not on everyones radar. I'm currently using that + a firestick and love it.
I saw some used ones for $350. Can you send a link for refurbished for $250?
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04-18-2024 at 07:54 AM.
04-18-2024 at 07:54 AM.
Quote from gibsonbass :
Keep in mind this item is eligible for exchange only if opened or used.
it has 90 day free returns no matter what. Don't pay attention to that if opened or used cabbage. If your anxiety takes over, return it to the store and get an instant refund
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04-18-2024 at 07:57 AM.
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Quote from Arcanlaw :
No way to mount this thing with a tripod?
yes you can mount on a tripod
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shrike1201
04-18-2024 at 08:09 AM.
04-18-2024 at 08:09 AM.
Looks like no warranty at all on this?
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04-18-2024 at 08:26 AM.
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Quote from yaadev :
I saw some used ones for $350. Can you send a link for refurbished for $250?

I've never seen a refurbished one. They haven't been produced in a while so doubt that's a thing for the RZ370u, TBH. If that's important to you, then I would pass on my suggestion and either sacrifice brightness on something like this or spend some more on one of the other refurb deals that came out recently. But used is totally fine as long as you make sure the seller is reputable / has a good return policy and the hours are low. Like I said, these were meant to last. As a laser vs bulb it'll last upwards of 20,000 hours.
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04-18-2024 at 08:34 AM.
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Quote from jbizzle :
If you don't mind, What would you consider a low amount of hours on a commercial projector? Thanks

It'll depend. I bought mine for just under $300 (was listed higher, made an offer) with around 4k hours. So you'd kind of just want to keep an eye out on options and gauge the best price to hours ratio. My friend also bought the same one for around $150, but it had 12k hours which I would still take over this (because I don't have a completely dark theater room). Ideally, I'd try to stay under 10k hours and around the $250 range.
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