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Trade-in any phone or tablet in any condition to get $50 off and then sign-up for texts/emails for an additional $30 off. The OnePlus Pad is currently $80 off and you get a free Magnetic Keyboard ($150) or Folio ($30 - I don't recommend).
Cost breakdown:
$480 Pad
$150 Keyboard
$630 Total
-$80 Discount on Pad
-$150 Free Keyboard
-$50 Trade-in any condition (more for others, like $100 for iP X or $160 for iP 11; or see link
https://www.oneplus.com/us/buy-oneplus-pad)
-$30 Sign-up Texts/Emails
$320 New Total
Taxes vary, I'm in CA 7.75%
The total cost for me after taxes is $344.79.
https://www.oneplus.com/us
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The multitasking features don't really work as well as they seem to think and aren't as intuitive as you would hope.
No WiFi 6E which I was surprised to learn it didn't have for a tablet released in 2023.
It feels like there are no unique features or licensed apps that make great use of the marketed accessory. When you buy a tablet that comes with a stylus, you would expect features built into the OS that are custom tailored to the stylus or art/scribbling/note taking apps that come with it for free. The keyboard cover perfectly accompanies the tablet physically by how it acts as a cover and snaps on the tablet. But apart from that, it's just a keyboard. Not much is offered in the way of consuming the Android experience with a custom keyboard.
The OnePlus Pad comes with OnePlus' OxygenOS software built on top of Android 13. It's a lightly customized take on Android that mostly relies on Google's implementation of things like multitasking. The company is committing to three years of OS updates and four years of security patches on the Pad, both a year less than what it provides for its phones.
So not a great update length. I'll probably pass on this due to the policy.
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If it has Google software, it's phoning home and providing analytics to Google. If it has Samsung software, it's phoning home to Samsung. Apple claims minimal phoning home, but network logs show otherwise. It's inescapable.
The only thing you can do as a consumer to mitigate this is remove the apps that phone home, block the associated IP addresses on your network, and accept that it will probably affect some functionality if you still want to use certain apps associated with that ecosystem.
For instance, blocking Google in a hamfisted manner is going to prevent your ability to receive updates, certain push notifications, and access to Google Assistant. And if you use third party software that leverages Google Analytics or AdWords, those applications might not work either.
For this particular tablet, I would freeze any of the system apps that pertain to OnePlus and call it a day. If you outright remove them, it will impact your ability to receive system updates.
Best of all, it's free and open source.
802.11ac averages 1.3Gbps. This has 802.11ax, which averages 1.6Gbps.
Are you really exceeding that bandwidth on a tablet? It's enough to stream 8K, let alone 4K.
As for the stylus not having any "defining" software that comes with it... the iPad doesn't exactly come with Procreate preinstalled either.
If you want more nudges on software to use that you'll probably end up wanting to replace, get a Samsung tablet with S-pen.
- WiFi bandwidth is shared between devices. If you are copying files between two laptops, the 1.6 Gbps would be shared. So you'd get 800 Mbps.
- When you get farther and farther from the router, you bandwidth drops. At longer ranges, you may not be able to saturate a 300 Mbps WAN connection.
- Combine points 1 and 2, and your available bandwidth can drop quickly. Especially since most people have WiFi devices sitting all over their homes.
On top of those points, the biggest benefit to WiFi 6e may be the additional available channels. In dense areas like apartments with lots of neighbors, these additional channels can make huge improvements in actual performance and reliability. And with home mesh networks becoming more and more common, the need more for more channels grows even more.Lastly, don't just think about how things are now. Each device you buy now that is limited to an older WiFi standard means you'll be stuck with that standard even longer. In 2-5 years from now, WiFi 6e might go from a "nice to have" to "very beneficial". The same can be said for things like Operating System versions and charging ports. Picking an older standard can be extremely frustrating in the future. You often end up with a device that is still very capable, but held back by some minor detail.
The multitasking features don't really work as well as they seem to think and aren't as intuitive as you would hope.
No WiFi 6E which I was surprised to learn it didn't have for a tablet released in 2023.
It feels like there are no unique features or licensed apps that make great use of the marketed accessory. When you buy a tablet that comes with a stylus, you would expect features built into the OS that are custom tailored to the stylus or art/scribbling/note taking apps that come with it for free. The keyboard cover perfectly accompanies the tablet physically by how it acts as a cover and snaps on the tablet. But apart from that, it's just a keyboard. Not much is offered in the way of consuming the Android experience with a custom keyboard.
It's an Apple iPad ripoff that skimps on everything Apple can afford to not skimp on. What do you expect?
If someone needs more than 128gb they are using a tablet for the wrong thing. No tablet is a desktop/laptop replacement. Anyone who says otherwise is just selling either a laptop that sucks as a tablet or a tablet that sucks as a laptop.
To put it into dumb people terms; a chain saw and a table saw both cut wood. But they are for different uses. Same thing. When will the retards understand.
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Cost breakdown:
$480 Pad
$150 Keyboard
$630 Total
-$80 Discount on Pad
-$150 Free Keyboard
-$50 Trade-in any condition (more for others, like $100 for iP X or $160 for iP 11; or see link https://www.oneplus.com/us/buy-oneplus-pad)
-$30 Sign-up Texts/Emails
$320 New Total
Taxes vary, I'm in CA 7.75%
The total cost for me after taxes is $344.79.
https://www.oneplus.com/us
The OnePlus Pad comes with OnePlus' OxygenOS software built on top of Android 13. It's a lightly customized take on Android that mostly relies on Google's implementation of things like multitasking. The company is committing to three years of OS updates and four years of security patches on the Pad, both a year less than what it provides for its phones.
So not a great update length. I'll probably pass on this due to the policy.
Find me a $300 tablet with longer updates. Lol.
Obviously Samsung will give you 5 OS updates with the tab S9 or whatever but 8 or $900.
I'm not even saying I would recommend this product I don't think it has display output but at $320 that's like the same price as a Lenovo duet or a p11 Pro or something. And you may or may not get a keyboard bundled with that on a used deal.
It's a good deal. You wanted a $320 Samsung tablet you'd have to get a used tab S7 or something and that will be stuck on Android 13 forever and doesn't have an OLED.
I've noticed a trend on slick deals where people complain about budget items for not having flagship specs and it's really silly. they virtually never actually offer a better compelling offer at the same price.
especially bad with laptops. or phones. like there'll be a Moto G stylus 2023 for 10 bucks or something and someone's "But 6 GB of RAM and 2024."
That's why it's 20 bucks!
Meanwhile if you get a $320 iPad, no revanced, f Droid, no browsers with desktop extensions, laminated display, 60 Hertz... to come and no new pipe, no ublock. no keyboard included. no stylus included.
I mean this really isn't much more expensive than the fire 11 max.
But it's update cycle is already over. Again I think it's a compelling product but it's already at its end of life I'm pretty sure..
- WiFi bandwidth is shared between devices. If you are copying files between two laptops, the 1.6 Gbps would be shared. So you'd get 800 Mbps.
- When you get farther and farther from the router, you bandwidth drops. At longer ranges, you may not be able to saturate a 300 Mbps WAN connection.
- Combine points 1 and 2, and your available bandwidth can drop quickly. Especially since most people have WiFi devices sitting all over their homes.
On top of those points, the biggest benefit to WiFi 6e may be the additional available channels. In dense areas like apartments with lots of neighbors, these additional channels can make huge improvements in actual performance and reliability. And with home mesh networks becoming more and more common, the need more for more channels grows even more.Lastly, don't just think about how things are now. Each device you buy now that is limited to an older WiFi standard means you'll be stuck with that standard even longer. In 2-5 years from now, WiFi 6e might go from a "nice to have" to "very beneficial". The same can be said for things like Operating System versions and charging ports. Picking an older standard can be extremely frustrating in the future. You often end up with a device that is still very capable, but held back by some minor detail.
Where can you find a $320 tablet with these features and the keyboard included. Like I'm sure it's nice to have the latest Wi-Fi and the latest Bluetooth and the fastest data transfer and blah blah blah... It's nice to have $1,500 pieces of hardware instead of $300 pieces of hardware.
But find me products and a similar price point that have all the stuff you want or it's kind of a silly discussion
I mean an iPad is a non starter if you need a high refresh rate (mean the closest thing in price with a high of rush rate would be a refurbished iPad Pro 2nd Gen which is like $600 on the Apple refurb store) or most importantly if you need browsers with desktop extensions. I would never buy an iPad knowing that I could never ublock, new pipe, sponsor block. I swear the people that talk about iPads being great I've probably never tried an alternative. Or have never in their entire lives experimented with the amazing collection of open source and free apps.
Maybe in Europe, now that they have to allow side loading You could talk me into an iPad. I do like the mini form factor for instance. But until side loading comes to the US it's complete non-starter.
I want to own the products that I buy. If I want a clean home screen or a third party launcher or to use breezy or Gray j or something, Apple is completely worthless.
And especially at this price point the only thing you could get would be the base level iPad which is basically meant for kids at this point. Doesn't even have a laminated display.
And I'm still trying to figure out what you would use as an ad blocker on an iPad. I think you can use brave or firefox, But it's not actually the legitimate version that some Apple applied version based on Safari's code.
no good way to block YouTube ads on an iPad short of just giving Google another $150 a year.
But find me products and a similar price point that have all the stuff you want or it's kind of a silly discussion
Person A: It's too bad that this tablet doesn't have WiFi 6e.
Person B: Why would you need WiFi 6e? The WiFi 6 provides 1.2 Gbps of bandwidth. That should be plenty for almost everyone.
Me: Let me explain the benefits of WiFi 6e, and how it's not just about 1.2 vs 1.6 Gbps of maximum throughput.
I was simply continuing the conversation about how a spec like WiFi 6e could be beneficial to the average person. I wasn't trying to argue that a tablet, in this price range, with the included features, without WiFi 6e, is a bad deal. I like the deal. I even spent a bit of time trying to justify purchasing this tablet for myself, even though it would be excessive for my household.
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