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I'm so pissed at DBF anyone care to give insight as to a man's thinking?

2,257 1,117 December 16, 2009 at 07:18 AM in Chat
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In March,before we were officially dating,I found naked pictures of this girl on his phone. I got incredibly pissed and confronted him about them. He said we weren't officially dating although we were exclusive so I couldn't get mad at him bc I didn't know what I wanted to do. Fast forward until now, he's been still talking to her and texting her,I've known it all along and I've expressed to him how much I don't like him talking to her etc. He always brings back the part that we weren't "dating" when she sent the pics,and since we've been dating she hasn't sent him any racy pics. I've been trying to be patient and understanding about it but I'm really insecure about this whole situation and I've told him how I feel,but it still does no good. Am I acting irrationally? Do I have a reason to be upset about him still talking to her etc? She's on his facebook and they chit chat alot,but yet he asked me to remove my ex because he didn't like it,and I did because I didn't want him to feel threatened or insecure about it. It gets to the point that when I see her posting in response to him that I clinch my fists because it makes me so mad.
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HeyLookItsMe
12-16-2009 at 08:48 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:48 AM.
Quote from Jengo :
Thank you so much for posting this. This is exactly how I feel. I trust as much as I can while still knowing that the person you love can cheat on you,leave you or whatever. So I guess I do have trust issues. I don't want to be naive anymore and be blindsided like I was before.

He is worth it,other than this issue we've been doing really well and trying to be mature adults in the relationship. This is just a hiccup that we are going through and I want to work it out. Unfortunately we haven't been able to see eye to eye yet. I just wonder who's feelings are justified and who should backdown. If it's my feelings then I'll backdown. If I can't backdown,well guess the relationship will be over due to my own stubborniss,but hey that's my issue.
but remember the trust issues are YOURS... he probably has his own but YOU NEED TO WORK ON YOURS and he needs to work on his. He might be able to help you, but the bottom line is its YOUR work that YOU need to do. He should also respect your issues and try to accommodate them but it doesnt mean he has to

relationships are give and take and sometimes you have to take some things you dont lie but thats just because the thing you take that you do like are so good its worth it.
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jj.12321
12-16-2009 at 08:53 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:53 AM.
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Alright, time for a warning point, but I hope it's worth it -- Jengo take your head out of your ass. Seriously.

You know the right answer before you even posted your thread. You know what needs to be done and what you should do. You're just looking for people to tell you "it's ok, don't worry, we agree with you".
Disagree.
The "right thing" is not to get so worried and try to stop your bf from having friends.
People that are so insecure and paranoid end up being alone for the rest of their lives.

Fallacy, does your wife patrol SD and worry that you are talking to women here?
I kind of doubt it.
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Iaaaiws
12-16-2009 at 08:56 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:56 AM.
Quote from jj12321 :
No ultimatiums are bad. They are always bad.

If you are in a relationship and feel you need to give an ultimatium, the relationship is already dead. Do you really want your bf or gf to do something only because you had to threaten to break up? That's not healthy. It's not love.

Here's what I do. I don't worry about any of this stuff. My gf can talk, flirt, whatever.
I don't get jealous or insecure. What's the point of that? It is very unattractive for both men and women.

Let them talk to whoever they want. If Jengo wants to re-add that ex back to facebook, she should. There's no reason to be insecure about any of this stuff.
Let the other person be themselves. Let them talk to whoever they want to. Don't try to control people. If they stray, you will find out, one way or another.. You might not find out specifically who they slept with, but you will know the relationship is dying.

That's what I do.. just relax.. don't be insecure.. "If you love someone, set them free."
That's all great and healthy if the person can just turn off those insecure feelings. If they can't, which is most often the case, then the issue has to be faced and dealt with.

I think the only way this relationship would survive would be with some professional counseling. A successful outcome might be exactly what you describe or it might be the other person giving in and having no further contact with the other person. Ideal it would be somewhere in between.

You are correct about the ultimatum part--that just about never has a positive result.
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12-16-2009 at 08:58 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:58 AM.
Quote from Jengo :
He said that we will talk about it when he gets home. I'm the type of person that I don't voice a problem unless it really bothers me. I think about things,decide where the underlying issue is coming from. If it's something that's my own problem I deal with it myself,if it's something I can let go because not all relationships are perfect all the time but as long as the good outweighs the bad I can still be in one. I mean just personal pet peeves,like he doesn't do something so then I've got to go back and do it,instead of nagging him or whatever I just remind myself that he did such and such without being asked to or whatever. If its a problem that I can't let go,or deal with through my own issues then I talk about it. This has been an issue a few times and maybe he's starting to realize that this isn't going away and something needs to be done. One of us needs to budge and stop being stubborn because the relationship is suffering. I would budge if I could see his POV and it be valid in my mind,but it's not.
This reminds me of a book, a movie and a show on Oprah way back when...."he's just not that into you". If he WAS, he'd have all YOUR naked pics on his phone. Smilie

Seriously, there is a guy out there that will treat you like a queen. Find him!!
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rige25
12-16-2009 at 08:59 AM.
12-16-2009 at 08:59 AM.
I never like it when someone tells me I can't talk to my friend because it makes them feel insecure. If he's not cheating on you, he should be allowed to do what he wants. This also goes the other direction, I would never ask someone I was dating to stop talking to a friend of theirs, even if it is an ex.

That being said however, if he asked you to remove your ex on facebook and you did, it's only fair he does the same.
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12-16-2009 at 09:01 AM.
12-16-2009 at 09:01 AM.
Quote from rige25 :
I never like it when someone tells me I can't talk to my friend because it makes them feel insecure. If he's not cheating on you, he should be allowed to do what he wants. This also goes the other direction, I would never ask someone I was dating to stop talking to a friend of theirs, even if it is an ex.

That being said however, if he asked you to remove your ex on facebook and you did, it's only fair he does the same.
He didn't ask her, she did it voluntarily because it made him uncomfortable.
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Kolto
12-16-2009 at 09:01 AM.
12-16-2009 at 09:01 AM.
im surprised its gone 65 posts and noone's mentioned threesum?!
btw you should totally send those pics from the cell to us, we need evidence to review.

Lastly, kick the dude to the curb
unless you already made up your mind to try to tough it out, but it most likely won't end well.
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Fallacy
12-16-2009 at 09:04 AM.
12-16-2009 at 09:04 AM.
Quote from jj12321 :
Disagree.
The "right thing" is not to get so worried and try to stop your bf from having friends.
People that are so insecure and paranoid end up being alone for the rest of their lives.

Fallacy, does your wife patrol SD and worry that you are talking to women here?
I kind of doubt it.
Nice of you to jump to conclusions Thumbup

Show me where I told her it was the "right thing" to get worried and try to stop her BF from having friends please? Can you point that one out for me, as I can't seem to find it... Confused


My wife has no reason to worry about me, as I have no reason to worry about her. And I'm not or some other horny middle aged guy who comes trolling and begging for pictures from 20 year old girls.


Thanks for playing, come again.
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Jengo
12-16-2009 at 09:04 AM.
12-16-2009 at 09:04 AM.
pics are gone,he deleted him a long ass time ago because i asked him to.
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DAAB
12-16-2009 at 09:06 AM.
12-16-2009 at 09:06 AM.
Wait, so you are wanting him to drop a friend because you are insecure? I'm in a similar situation but wouldn't demand she drops him because it is MY insecurity. If you can't trust him talking to her then you two shouldn't be together. it takes trust to have a healthy relationship.
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Jengo
12-16-2009 at 09:12 AM.
12-16-2009 at 09:12 AM.
sigh,i do have trust issues with him,he knows it too. I've been very clear when telling him this. He stopped talking to another girl because we kept having issues about her. He'd talk to her for hours at a time on the phone,he'd talk to her about our relationship problems instead of talking to me. She was always writing things on his wall saying how she's there for him and he can lean on her. I finally got so frustrated with things that I posted "I am your girlfriend you know,you can lean on me too." Well that started WW3 with her and she went all out on me cursing me and stuff,saying I was pathetic and a lot of other things. I told him it's either her or me this time and I better not find out he's talking to her again or else I'm gone. When we first met he had her number saved as Twizzle,then it became an issue with her badmouthing me,so I asked him to stop talking to her. I thought he did,well he didn't he just changed her name to Teri. When I found out I was furious! So for a few months it was back to the same old thing,when he'd be talking to her or texting her and not talk to me about things I'd get upset,and ask him to talk to me about stuff that's bothering him,not just her. A few weeks ago is when the blowup happened,and supposedly he's stopped talking to her. How convenient of him to just so happen to start using a password protection on his phone that he mysteriously can't figure out how to take off anymore.... Roll Eyes (Sarcastic) Whatever dude,stop pissing down my back and telling me it's raining. Everytime I mention it he asks if I want to look through his phone,sometimes I take him up on that offer,but most of the time I don't. IDK that's probably my fault though.
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marg_fan
12-16-2009 at 09:16 AM.
12-16-2009 at 09:16 AM.
One question. Would it bother you if he behaved the same way with another woman that had never sent a naked photo of herself to him?

While many people think otherwise, I do feel it is possible to have close friends of the opposite sex. I had such a friend and we talked almost daily via instant messenger. My wife knew about it and it actually brought us closer together. Sometimes it takes an unbiased view of another to help one see things from a different perspective. (i.e. letting me know I'm being a butthead)

Whether or not this is true in your case, only you and DBF can decide.
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12-16-2009 at 09:16 AM.
12-16-2009 at 09:16 AM.
If I were you I would drop him asap.
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jj.12321
12-16-2009 at 09:17 AM.
12-16-2009 at 09:17 AM.
Quote from Iaaaiws :
That's all great and healthy if the person can just turn off those insecure feelings. If they can't, which is most often the case, then the issue has to be faced and dealt with.
That is a good point. However, if she can't deal with these feelings, then I figure most of her relatinoships are doomed. She might eventually find a real submissive dude with such low self esteem that he'll do whatever she says, but who would really want someone like that?

We've all been farked over by the opposite sex. The worrying and insecuirty part of it though is often worse than the actual betrayal.. Look, it's already tearing up their relationship.. So I just skip that step. Be happy, if the betrayal happens, it happens.
No sense in worrying about it.

In all seriousness, I have female friends on FB. If I had a gf that wanted me to delete some or all of them, I would be seriously annoyed and resist.. See, if FB is such a big deal when dating, where does it end? Will she get mad if I smile at a waitress? What's the next demand going to be?

Jengo is going to have to decide if she can trust this dude or not. I hope she gives him the benefit of the doubt, instead of assuming the worst. Believe it or not, most people aren't bad. (Not addressing you specifically, just saying). She should trust this dude and try to have a heathy relationship.

All these questions "HAve you kissed?' "What do you talk about"? "Any more picts?" etc
Those just make her seem very insecure, especially after he's said numerious times they are just friends. It damages the relationship.
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12-16-2009 at 09:18 AM.
12-16-2009 at 09:18 AM.
Just to clarify,he does have several girls in his phone,that are just friends. So i'm not asking him to stop talking to all his girlfriends. We just have issues with 2 girls. One is supposedly no longer in the picture,unless he's changed her number again or is still talking to her with the password protection
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