most people looking at this have an am4 board right now
Kinda hard to compare a $250 upgrade to a $700 upgrade bud
Sinking more money into AM4? Again. How can you compare 250$ to a 700$ upgrade? Changing to AM5 is gonna be 3x the price of this. And for similar performance for a 7700x too
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Not really a deal, the 5900x isnt aging well and is priced too high still. For example a 13600kf is the same price and is faster in every regard, gaming, single thread and multi-thread. The only people that might even consider this are people on AM4 that refuse to upgrade to a newer/better platform and dont care that they arent getting a good performance to price CPU. I'd skip this and just invest into another platform when you are able to, instead of sinking more money into AM4.
You compared a 2022 CPU with a 2020 CPU. And the 13600 is only about 20% better. If you have an AM4 build you aren't going to pay $400-700 for a 20% performance boost. This isn't apples to apples.
I would say this future proofs compared to an R7 3700 or anything but current gen R5s. CPU won't likely be your bottleneck until its 6-8 generations old. GPU on the other hand, that's where the real expense is. Its kind of dirty advice to be pushing BRAND NEW as though its the only way to future proof. If buying this put off upgrading my whole platform for 4 years then I future proofed for 4 years. If I can get 6, or 8 well you know what that means.
Sinking more money into AM4? Again. How can you compare 250$ to a 700$ upgrade? Changing to AM5 is gonna be 3x the price of this. And for similar performance for a 7700x too
Imo, i would look for whats possible on a $500 budget... if nothing.. stick with am4 until there is a reasonable path... as Ive said before am5 has ddr5 latency and overpriced cpu and mobos making an upgrade closer to $700 but there should be reasonable upgrades in the $500 range in 2025 as ddr5 platforms mature.
Depends on what your doing. I'm currently working on a video project and it would turn a 24 minute render into about 12 minutes for me. I have a ryzen 5 3600. I have a friend with a 5900x and it would be the way to go. Although. I've seen the 5950x for sale similar price
I do 4k and 8k video rendering, and went from a 3700x to a 5950x. I couldn't stop giggling at how fast my render times were. So so worth the upgrade!
Sinking more money into AM4? Again. How can you compare 250$ to a 700$ upgrade? Changing to AM5 is gonna be 3x the price of this. And for similar performance for a 7700x too
Not if you have a Microcenter nearby. It would only be an extra $130 above the cost of this processor for a 7700x, 32gb DDR5, and motherboard. Similar deals at Newegg in the past as well. It definitely doesn't cost nearly as much as it used to now to get onto AM5 with the right bundles.
The 5900x is still a heck of a processor though, and I was very happy with mine until I moved onto AM5 last year.
Sinking more money into AM4? Again. How can you compare 250$ to a 700$ upgrade? Changing to AM5 is gonna be 3x the price of this. And for similar performance for a 7700x too
Not speaking just on performance, but with AM5 you get access to newer generation techs.
While spending the $250 is in addition to what they've already spent, and it will be to work on a system with limited platform support life left from amd.
You'd have a more likely upgrade path with the latest Gen as well.
So I wouldn't say it's as cut and dry as a straight cost comparison. It depends on what the individual buyer values, and how often they feel the need to upgrade in the next few years.
My teenage son does a ton of competitive Minecraft PVP stuff online. He also records some of his games and makes compilation videos. He also creates texture packs for himself and others. He currently has a 3600 in his PC, along with an EVGA 3060ti.
What do you all think would be a good upgrade/graduation gift for his purposes: a 5700X3D, or a 5900x?
My teenage son does a ton of competitive Minecraft PVP stuff online. He also records some of his games and makes compilation videos. He also creates texture packs for himself and others. He currently has a 3600 in his PC, along with an EVGA 3060ti.
What do you all think would be a good upgrade/graduation gift for his purposes: a 5700X3D, or a 5900x?
Above 1080p get the 5900x, 32GB-64GB of RAM and an NVMe drive. Your son will be set.
My teenage son does a ton of competitive Minecraft PVP stuff online. He also records some of his games and makes compilation videos. He also creates texture packs for himself and others. He currently has a 3600 in his PC, along with an EVGA 3060ti.
What do you all think would be a good upgrade/graduation gift for his purposes: a 5700X3D, or a 5900x?
Is the 3600 really bottlenecking? With a 7000 series rebuild at around $450, I say to keep as cheap as you can for upgrades, especially with the next gen Ryzen coming out soon.
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You compared a 2022 CPU with a 2020 CPU. And the 13600 is only about 20% better. If you have an AM4 build you aren't going to pay $400-700 for a 20% performance boost. This isn't apples to apples.
I would say this future proofs compared to an R7 3700 or anything but current gen R5s. CPU won't likely be your bottleneck until its 6-8 generations old. GPU on the other hand, that's where the real expense is. Its kind of dirty advice to be pushing BRAND NEW as though its the only way to future proof. If buying this put off upgrading my whole platform for 4 years then I future proofed for 4 years. If I can get 6, or 8 well you know what that means.
Imo, i would look for whats possible on a $500 budget... if nothing.. stick with am4 until there is a reasonable path... as Ive said before am5 has ddr5 latency and overpriced cpu and mobos making an upgrade closer to $700 but there should be reasonable upgrades in the $500 range in 2025 as ddr5 platforms mature.
I do 4k and 8k video rendering, and went from a 3700x to a 5950x. I couldn't stop giggling at how fast my render times were. So so worth the upgrade!
The 5900x is still a heck of a processor though, and I was very happy with mine until I moved onto AM5 last year.
This is funny..... Because you are definitely spending more in power.
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Not speaking just on performance, but with AM5 you get access to newer generation techs.
While spending the $250 is in addition to what they've already spent, and it will be to work on a system with limited platform support life left from amd.
You'd have a more likely upgrade path with the latest Gen as well.
So I wouldn't say it's as cut and dry as a straight cost comparison. It depends on what the individual buyer values, and how often they feel the need to upgrade in the next few years.
What do you all think would be a good upgrade/graduation gift for his purposes: a 5700X3D, or a 5900x?
What do you all think would be a good upgrade/graduation gift for his purposes: a 5700X3D, or a 5900x?
Above 1080p get the 5900x, 32GB-64GB of RAM and an NVMe drive. Your son will be set.
Get the 7000 series bundle for $400 instead
What do you all think would be a good upgrade/graduation gift for his purposes: a 5700X3D, or a 5900x?
Is the 3600 really bottlenecking? With a 7000 series rebuild at around $450, I say to keep as cheap as you can for upgrades, especially with the next gen Ryzen coming out soon.
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