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BlueDesk9616
11-16-2024 at 02:10 PM.

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11-16-2024 at 02:10 PM.
Quote from Farmeroak :
This might sound weird, but I get 4.7% APY on USDC in Coinbase, no min, no fees. You could easily transfer your money to Coinbase like any other bank, convert 1:1 to USDC for free, and you're done, you immediately start earning. Convert back to dollars 1:1 for free anytime and withdraw back to your bank.
No min, no fees! And none of that pesky FDIC insurance.

Have you ever heard the phrase "picking up nickels in front of a steamroller?"

Remember that prominent banks like First Republic failed only last year? Remember that prominent "stable coins" like TerraUSD also collapsed only last year, wiping out tens of billions of dollars from investors? Or that only last year Sam Bankman-Fried was sentenced in stealing $8 billion of crypto investor's money? Or that crypto exchange Binance was charged for $4 billion in fraud? You're really going to put your money in USDC when plenty of savings vehicles are paying the same interest rates but are backed by the full force of the US government?
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Farmeroak
11-16-2024 at 03:37 PM.
11-16-2024 at 03:37 PM.
Quote from BlueDesk9616 :
No min, no fees! And none of that pesky FDIC insurance.

Have you ever heard the phrase "picking up nickels in front of a steamroller?"

Remember that prominent banks like First Republic failed only last year? Remember that prominent "stable coins" like TerraUSD also collapsed only last year, wiping out tens of billions of dollars from investors? Or that only last year Sam Bankman-Fried was sentenced in stealing $8 billion of crypto investor's money? Or that crypto exchange Binance was charged for $4 billion in fraud? You're really going to put your money in USDC when plenty of savings vehicles are paying the same interest rates but are backed by the full force of the US government?
Yes, I currently do, and will continue to support crypto. You bring up some good points, albeit in a very obnoxious way.
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BlueDesk9616
11-16-2024 at 05:05 PM.
11-16-2024 at 05:05 PM.
Quote from Farmeroak :
Yes, I currently do, and will continue to support crypto. You bring up some good points, albeit in a very obnoxious way.
It's not about supporting crypto. That wasn't my point at all. Notice that I also mentioned that First Republic a major *traditional* bank, also failed last year ... its depositors were only saved by FDIC insurance.

It's about taking substantial risk in order to earn an interest rate that can be easily achieved using US government guaranteed instruments.
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Farmeroak
11-16-2024 at 07:56 PM.
11-16-2024 at 07:56 PM.
Quote from BlueDesk9616 :
It's not about supporting crypto. That wasn't my point at all. Notice that I also mentioned that First Republic a major *traditional* bank, also failed last year ... its depositors were only saved by FDIC insurance.

It's about taking substantial risk in order to earn an interest rate that can be easily achieved using US government guaranteed instruments.
More fair points, definitely info people should consider.
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hateeecs
11-20-2024 at 11:00 AM.
11-20-2024 at 11:00 AM.
Quote from bodhimind :
To maximize and get the 4% rewards rate, this is all ultimately tied to having $100k in the savings account (which has a $10 fee unless you put $10k in the checking account).

Tempted to make a switch next year after my Capital One bank reward kicks in... but that slightly lower savings account APR (3.8% instead of 4% I'm getting in Ally and other savings accounts) ends up netting around the same since I'm only making about $10-20k of purchases per year... too much work for making $200 per year.

So gotta pay attention to that savings account APR difference.
Confusingly not a Slick Deal due to better savings account APRs out there...
As you say, it depends on the amount of spend that you can put on cards and the rate differential on existing cashback vs the rate differential on savings.

You will lose just over 200 dollars due to the saving rate difference on 100k as you point out. (this can be mitigated with moving IRA over possibly but I digress)

In my case I have around 100k of spending total for the year of which I estimate that at least 60k can go to card spend. I tend to maximize 5% categories and I estimate my current cashback rate on that 60k is 3.5%.

So let's look at the 3 scenarios of how to split the credit card spend in my case:
1) Existing setup: 25k on 5% cards, 35k at a blended rate of 2.5% = $2125.00 cashback

2) Move all credit card spend to 4% usbank card = $2400.00 cashback - $200 savings apy difference = $2200. One nice thing here is that I can stop thinking about and carrying different cards.

3) Keep existing 25k on 5% cards, 35k at 4% = $2650 cashback - $200 savings rate difference = $2450

I will say one other thing is there is probably around 10k of spending more that could go on cards but I currently don't use because the processing fee is 2.5% to 3%. So that might net out another $100 with the 4% option.

Hope this helps people like me who already leverage 5% rotating cards when evaluating if this is worth it.
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11-20-2024 at 12:31 PM.
11-20-2024 at 12:31 PM.
Quote from hateeecs :
As you say, it depends on the amount of spend that you can put on cards and the rate differential on existing cashback vs the rate differential on savings.

You will lose just over 200 dollars due to the saving rate difference on 100k as you point out. (this can be mitigated with moving IRA over possibly but I digress)

In my case I have around 100k of spending total for the year of which I estimate that at least 60k can go to card spend. I tend to maximize 5% categories and I estimate my current cashback rate on that 60k is 3.5%.

So let's look at the 3 scenarios of how to split the credit card spend in my case:
1) Existing setup: 25k on 5% cards, 35k at a blended rate of 2.5% = $2125.00 cashback

2) Move all credit card spend to 4% usbank card = $2400.00 cashback - $200 savings apy difference = $2200. One nice thing here is that I can stop thinking about and carrying different cards.

3) Keep existing 25k on 5% cards, 35k at 4% = $2650 cashback - $200 savings rate difference = $2450

I will say one other thing is there is probably around 10k of spending more that could go on cards but I currently don't use because the processing fee is 2.5% to 3%. So that might net out another $100 with the 4% option.

Hope this helps people like me who already leverage 5% rotating cards when evaluating if this is worth it.
Your thinking is spot on. It's the incremental cashback gained vs existing 2-5% options minus the after-tax lost interest on savings. it really depends on the person/household how much incremental gains can be had. more spending = more cashback.
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11-30-2024 at 05:35 PM.
11-30-2024 at 05:35 PM.
Quote from aznxenon :
Easiest way to park $5k to get 2.5% without needing to pay any fees?

I considered opening a brokerage account and just put 5k in stocks but the $50 annual fee is weak. Saving account seems to be 4.10% apr if you're at $25k and up, can't figure out the apr for just $5k tho and there's also a $5 fee that you need to do something to get it waived

Can consider a Fidelity cash management account, which is at 4.26% right now. I'm using it as both checking and savings account, since it offers check writing.
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11-30-2024 at 06:15 PM.
11-30-2024 at 06:15 PM.
Quote from aznxenon :
Easiest way to park $5k to get 2.5% without needing to pay any fees?

I considered opening a brokerage account and just put 5k in stocks but the $50 annual fee is weak. Saving account seems to be 4.10% apr if you're at $25k and up, can't figure out the apr for just $5k tho and there's also a $5 fee that you need to do something to get it waived

If you're going for the 2.5% Cashback level, I suggest you take a look at the Alliant credit card. They give you 1.5% + 1% if you open a checking and transfer in $1/mo. I'm going for the 4% level, so I'm switching my spend over to this card

I'm getting the Savings account maintenance fee waived by opening a checking account. The checking account fee is waived by having the smartly credit card. Kind of dumb that they have all these conditions, but read the waiver terms.
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11-30-2024 at 07:23 PM.
11-30-2024 at 07:23 PM.
Quote from BlueDesk9616 :
No min, no fees! And none of that pesky FDIC insurance.

Have you ever heard the phrase "picking up nickels in front of a steamroller?"

Remember that prominent banks like First Republic failed only last year? Remember that prominent "stable coins" like TerraUSD also collapsed only last year, wiping out tens of billions of dollars from investors? Or that only last year Sam Bankman-Fried was sentenced in stealing $8 billion of crypto investor's money? Or that crypto exchange Binance was charged for $4 billion in fraud? You're really going to put your money in USDC when plenty of savings vehicles are paying the same interest rates but are backed by the full force of the US government?

Coinbase is the most reputable crypto exchange in the world. It provides custody services for BlackRock and the U.S. government. Coinbase will eventually become bigger than Chase. Claiming that Coinbase is playing with your money is like accusing Apple of selling fake iPhones.
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12-01-2024 at 07:55 AM.
12-01-2024 at 07:55 AM.
Quote from 56XNO :
Coinbase is the most reputable crypto exchange in the world. It provides custody services for BlackRock and the U.S. government. Coinbase will eventually become bigger than Chase. Claiming that Coinbase is playing with your money is like accusing Apple of selling fake iPhones.
I never said Coinbase was playing with money, but your argument doesn't work. In 2008 Bear Stearns bank failed with more assets under management than Coinbase. My comments were not against investing in crypto in general but rather against investing in interest-bearing dollar denominated crypto that lacks FDIC insurance.
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12-14-2024 at 01:38 PM.

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I opened an account based on conversations with multiple representatives confirming that 100k in a brokerage account meets the requirements. Unfortunately after opening a the account and transferring the money, they now explain that the brokerage does not count. Many teams at US Bank have no clue what's going on and have no ability to resolve basic questions. Opening the account was a mistake, I'll be closing it soon.
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12-22-2024 at 06:44 AM.
12-22-2024 at 06:44 AM.
Quote from LukeT9361 :
I opened an account based on conversations with multiple representatives confirming that 100k in a brokerage account meets the requirements. Unfortunately after opening a the account and transferring the money, they now explain that the brokerage does not count. Many teams at US Bank have no clue what's going on and have no ability to resolve basic questions. Opening the account was a mistake, I'll be closing it soon.

Thanks a lot!! You really saved my time and money 🙏🙏.
I'll hold on to my BofA rewards accounts with $100k+ balance
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12-29-2024 at 11:05 AM.
12-29-2024 at 11:05 AM.
Quote from LukeT9361 :
I opened an account based on conversations with multiple representatives confirming that 100k in a brokerage account meets the requirements. Unfortunately after opening a the account and transferring the money, they now explain that the brokerage does not count. Many teams at US Bank have no clue what's going on and have no ability to resolve basic questions. Opening the account was a mistake, I'll be closing it soon.
This is totally wrong. It clearly says the following on US Bank site. Plus, numerous DPs show brokerage account qualifies here.

Have "Combined Qualifying Balances" with U.S. Bank in open consumer checking account(s), money market savings account(s), savings account(s), CDs and/or IRAs, U.S. Bancorp Investments and personal trust account(s) (business accounts, commercial accounts, and the Trustee only (IFI) client relationship do not qualify).
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12-29-2024 at 11:13 AM.
12-29-2024 at 11:13 AM.
How could I get balance of $100,000?
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tigerflash18
12-29-2024 at 11:27 AM.
12-29-2024 at 11:27 AM.
Quote from LukeT9361 :
I opened an account based on conversations with multiple representatives confirming that 100k in a brokerage account meets the requirements. Unfortunately after opening a the account and transferring the money, they now explain that the brokerage does not count. Many teams at US Bank have no clue what's going on and have no ability to resolve basic questions. Opening the account was a mistake, I'll be closing it soon.

Did you end up closing it out?
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