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expiredsupermanrob posted Jun 23, 2025 2:35 PM

Pioneer ELITE VSX LX805 11.4 Channel AV Receiver Black VSX-LX805 - OPEN BOX - Best Buy - $1838

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For those that may be after this 805 BB has OB for $1838, new is $1999.
Not the lowest but the low price($1500) has not replicated, unlikely to do so imo.

There are slight differences between the Onkyo RZ70, for the most part they are the same.
https://www.zkelectronics.com/com...vsx-lx805/

FYI this is the one Pioneer that does not have global crossovers.
Has 4 sub outs, 3 & 4 run parallel/mono.

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/p...=excellent
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For those that may be after this 805 BB has OB for $1838, new is $1999.
Not the lowest but the low price($1500) has not replicated, unlikely to do so imo.

There are slight differences between the Onkyo RZ70, for the most part they are the same.
https://www.zkelectronics.com/com...vsx-lx805/

FYI this is the one Pioneer that does not have global crossovers.
Has 4 sub outs, 3 & 4 run parallel/mono.

https://www.bestbuy.com/product/p...=excellent

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Jun 28, 2025 8:19 PM
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turnne
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Jun 28, 2025 8:19 PM
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Quote from supermanrob :
lol no one said you suggested anything.
No one said you kept bringing up Dirac.

You were asked a specific question since you claim to be an owner of DL & DLBC.
Should be a very simple answer!
I am the owner of DL and DLBC and you did say I kept bringing up Dirac

Thanks for your opinion Winkstatement about my setup as well
I will take that under " advisement"

But hey..I am waving the white flag over this line of " interrogation"...
I feel like when I ever I answer its more speculation and whataboutism to something not related
So for me the juice is not worth the squeeze as I can't even chalk it to cheap entertainment at this point

So I give up....Wink

BUT.....
......I see that Saddai ...who said he would no longer to be posting in PAC AVR threads... Well he is back again with the typical massive conjecture and speculation

When I asked, he stated you brought him back?!( what ever that means)

And then he said be blocked you...LOL

That wasnt nice....Embarrassment
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Jun 28, 2025 8:39 PM
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supermanrob
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Jun 28, 2025 8:39 PM
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Quote from turnne :
I am the owner of DL and DLBC and you did say I kept bringing up Dirac

Thanks for your opinion Winkstatement about my setup as well
I will take that under " advisement"

But hey..I am waving the white flag over this line of " interrogation"...
I feel like when I ever I answer its more speculation and whataboutism to something not related
So for me the juice is not worth the squeeze as I can't even chalk it to cheap entertainment at this point

So I give up....Wink

BUT.....
......I see that Saddai ...who said he would no longer to be posting in PAC AVR threads... Well he is back again with the typical massive conjecture and speculation

When I asked, he stated you brought him back?!( what ever that means)

And then he said be blocked you...LOL

That wasnt nice....Embarrassment
LOL no answer again…. Shocker!

I like the new creative excuse to the simple question, an "interrogation"!🀣
Props! πŸ‘πŸ»

Tell you what, you stop "interrogating" me,I'll stop "interrogating" you?
That way SD doesn't become AVS! πŸ‘πŸ»
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turnne
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Jun 28, 2025 8:42 PM
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Quote from supermanrob :
LOL no answer again…. Shocker!

I like the new creative excuse to the simple question, an "interrogation"!🀣
Props! πŸ‘πŸ»

Tell you what, you stop "interrogating" me,I'll stop "interrogating" you?
That way SD doesn't become AVS! πŸ‘πŸ»
I dont know what answer you are talking about

But..really you can make up something
It will be as accurate as your speculation ...so whats the point of letting facts get in the way?

But what I am curious about is this......what's the story?

BUT.....
......I see that Saddai ...who said he would no longer to be posting in PAC AVR threads... Well he is back again with the typical massive conjecture and speculation

When I asked, he stated you brought him back?!( what ever that means)

And then he said be blocked you...LOL

That wasnt nice....
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Jun 28, 2025 9:20 PM
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shaddaiJun 28, 2025 9:20 PM
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Quote from GhostGrayBolt :
love with the boys argue, it's very entertaining. I need to go find a subwoofer deal and start a thread for them..
Oh are they arguing again? It's been nice and quiet for me since I took the admin advice and used the "IGNORE" feature on both of them. Let me guess:

turnne is using "speculation" and 1st hand experience as arguments.
supermanrob is selling the qualities of A1 Evo over paid Dirac, etc.

There's very little they bring to the table in these threads. They wear their biases on their sleeves and it's obvious they have some ulterior motives that prevent them from being neutral.
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Jun 28, 2025 10:40 PM
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supermanrob
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Jun 28, 2025 10:40 PM
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Quote from turnne :
I dont know what answer you are talking about

But..really you can make up something
It will be as accurate as your speculation ...so whats the point of letting facts get in the way?

But what I am curious about is this......what's the story?

BUT.....
......I see that Saddai ...who said he would no longer to be posting in PAC AVR threads... Well he is back again with the typical massive conjecture and speculation

When I asked, he stated you brought him back?!( what ever that means)

And then he said be blocked you...LOL

That wasnt nice....
Yes I put in bold, pretty simple but I get it, you do you! 😜

I've always got a kick how people like you and ol shaddai consider your opinion as fact/correct but my opinion from personal experience as speculation/wrong especially when yours comes from just reading! 😜
Last edited by supermanrob June 28, 2025 at 04:00 PM.
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dhishiJun 29, 2025 3:11 PM
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Buy at your own risk. Pioneer is shutting down its AVR department. There will be no more support down the road. I went to an authorized repair shop and they told me to stay away from Pioneer.
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shaddaiJun 29, 2025 5:47 PM
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Quote from dhishi :
Buy at your own risk. Pioneer is shutting down its AVR department. There will be no more support down the road. I went to an authorized repair shop and they told me to stay away from Pioneer.
This is old news but at least now there is confirmation from repair shops warning of turning away service repairs!
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supermanrob
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Quote from dhishi :
Buy at your own risk. Pioneer is shutting down its AVR department. There will be no more support down the road. I went to an authorized repair shop and they told me to stay away from Pioneer.
Oh gees, the speculation again!
You might want to find a better repair shop.

Pioneer is just shifting to car audio, these are getting integrated with Onkyo!
No one including Best Buy would sell these if there was no honoring the support(warranty)!
Down the road on these is just 3 years, support is gone after that, like any other brand!

How many times have people said this is clone of the Onkyo RZ70!
There is nothing proprietary to them! Facepalm
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Jun 29, 2025 9:25 PM
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dhishiJun 29, 2025 9:25 PM
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Quote from supermanrob :
Oh gees, the speculation again!
You might want to find a better repair shop.

Pioneer is just shifting to car audio, these are getting integrated with Onkyo!
No one including Best Buy would sell these if there was no honoring the support(warranty)!
Down the road on these is just 3 years, support is gone after that, like any other brand!

How many times have people said this is clone of the Onkyo RZ70!
There is nothing proprietary to them! Facepalm
Better off with the actual ONKYO TX-RZ70 for $1800 @ Amazon.
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supermanrob
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Quote from dhishi :
Better off with the actual ONKYO TX-RZ70 for $1800 @ Amazon.
That's a personal choice but it shouldn't be based on that silly misleading speculation!

FYI the RZ70 has the same down the road support length as this.

Edit: oops I misspoke EE says this about their refurbs: "All Certified Refurbished products come with one year manufacturer warranty". 🀷🏻 ♂️
Last edited by supermanrob June 29, 2025 at 04:16 PM.
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Jul 1, 2025 11:46 AM
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shaddaiJul 1, 2025 11:46 AM
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The firmware that fixes the DLBM/DLBC issue is now out as of today July 1, 2025. Here are the firmware notes for the 805:
https://assets.pioneerhomeusa.com...1751338653

You can find the official firmware download on the main page (scroll down to "Firmware Updates" on the page):
https://pioneerhomeusa.com/pionee...v-receiver

I believe the same fix is available for all other PAC receivers that had the same bug. At last count, the following owners should check for their respective updates:
Onkyo RZ70
Onkyo RZ50
Onkyo RZ30
Integra DRX 8.4
Integra DRX 5.4

Note that the Pioneer 505 was never given DLBM/DLBC ever since Pioneer pulled the license so no update necessary!
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Jul 1, 2025 3:04 PM
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supermanrob
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Jul 1, 2025 3:04 PM
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Oh geeez! πŸ™„ Some clarification:

Pioneer never "pulled the license", they never paid to add DLBC.
As you can see Dirac is a proprietary software, you have to pay to play!


They probably learned from Onkyo's RZ50, there are minuscule owners, if at all that bothered with DLBC.
This so called "off by .1" fix isn't going to change that very much if at all.

FYI that issue is only a measurement issue, not an audible issue!
It's not like they listened and said hey wait I can hear everything off by .1!
Last edited by supermanrob July 1, 2025 at 06:42 PM.
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Jul 3, 2025 6:57 PM
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shaddaiJul 3, 2025 6:57 PM
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Word from the various PAC threads over at AVS is that the DLBM/DLBC fix is a huge success. Finally, even performance w/the D&M AVRs (until ART comes out of course)!
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