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does any one else on SD watch this show. i have watched each episode and i'm hooked its a mystery going on in each episode and makes it worth wild to watch .


EDIT April 12 2007- you can watch LOST on abc.com (streaming) also but its just one day after.

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

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05-24-2010 at 07:18 AM.
05-24-2010 at 07:18 AM.
Quote from Dazzledby5 :
I belive it was because as Charlie said it was beautiful, it was love...You date people in your life but that doesnt make it real true pure love and the is what Sawyer and Juilet had not Jack And Juliet - so...ya know
I was thinking about that but that seems to imply Sayid and Shannon loved each other more than Sayid and Nadia.
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dynamite
05-24-2010 at 07:27 AM.
05-24-2010 at 07:27 AM.
OK so what I got from the finale was that they were all dead to begin with and Oceanic 815 was just a way to ferry these "Lost" souls to a common place so they could work together to "find" their way forward.

I guess with this style of writing everything is open to interpretation. I enjoyed the 6 years immensely although I was hoping for more science and less spirituality. Oh well....
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05-24-2010 at 07:29 AM.
05-24-2010 at 07:29 AM.
Quote from dynamite :
OK so what I got from the finale was that they were all dead to begin with and Oceanic 815 was just a way to ferry these "Lost" souls to a common place so they could work together to "find" their way forward.

I guess with this style of writing everything is open to interpretation. I enjoyed the 6 years immensely although I was hoping for more science and less spirituality. Oh well....
No, the island was real.
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shhaggy
05-24-2010 at 07:36 AM.
05-24-2010 at 07:36 AM.
Quote from dynamite :
OK so what I got from the finale was that they were all dead to begin with and Oceanic 815 was just a way to ferry these "Lost" souls to a common place so they could work together to "find" their way forward.

I guess with this style of writing everything is open to interpretation. I enjoyed the 6 years immensely although I was hoping for more science and less spirituality. Oh well....
I thought that maybe that was it too....for a moment. I thought that maybe Jack died in that first scene when he was lying in the bamboo forest, and this was all his story. But it doesn't make sense. If the experiences on the island were not real, Jack wouldn't have really known the other characters. You don't really form that bond in death, he had to have lived with them. No, the 6 years was real, just unimportant apparently, since it was seemingly just a character study about how these 'lost' people found one another, with nothing about this mystical island worthy of being explained.
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lordoffire
05-24-2010 at 08:23 AM.
05-24-2010 at 08:23 AM.
Quote from Dazzledby5 :
I still pissed about Aaron, Eko,AND why, say Boone or Shannon was so important to Jack's life and others were not.
yerp....no explanation whatsoever about what happened to aaron, claire, the aaron that was left with her mother...
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05-24-2010 at 08:37 AM.
05-24-2010 at 08:37 AM.
Quote from shhaggy :
I thought that maybe that was it too....for a moment. I thought that maybe Jack died in that first scene when he was lying in the bamboo forest, and this was all his story. But it doesn't make sense. If the experiences on the island were not real, Jack wouldn't have really known the other characters. You don't really form that bond in death, he had to have lived with them. No, the 6 years was real, just unimportant apparently, since it was seemingly just a character study about how these 'lost' people found one another, with nothing about this mystical island worthy of being explained.
How much did you want them to explain about the island? The last 3 seasons were heavily devoted to exploring the mythology and the science of the island. In the end, we can safely conclude that it is a powerful and mysterious place, and it remained so in the finale. Even Jacob was the protector of a power he did not fully understand, if at all.

I thought handing the island over to Hugo was fitting. He was a much more appropriate choice. It would be interesting to see how long he actually held the role and what he did with it. Did he guard the island for as long as Jacob did? Longer?

I think that the questions about what happened to this child or that person are aimed in the wrong direction. What happened to Aaron? Maybe he lived a full and happy life with his mother Claire and his aunt Kate. Then, 50 years down the road, he wished them a tearful goodbye in a hospital somewhere. When he died, he was also reunited with his mother in the "in-between" before leaving with the rest of them.

As Christian said, there is no "when". After death, the shackles of time are loosed, and there is only existence. So while some of these people may have died a hundred years apart, in the last scene, there is only the moment, and they all arrive together.
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haloguy
05-24-2010 at 08:52 AM.
05-24-2010 at 08:52 AM.
But what happens to Juliet and Jacks son? Are they taken away?

What about widmore's mom? and Ben? Do they still exist? Do they live in the alternate world, and the other people have disappeared. What determines how old they look in that life? In the alternate life, passage of time is implied by aging, so I don't accept that there is no "when."

Also, I don't believe that they died when the plane passed over the island and continued on its course. Their lives were dramatically different before they got on the plane. Hurley wasn't cursed, Ben was a teacher, Sawyer was a cop, etc.
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Dazzledby5
05-24-2010 at 09:31 AM.
05-24-2010 at 09:31 AM.
Quote from haloguy :

Also, I don't believe that they died when the plane passed over the island and continued on its course. Their lives were dramatically different before they got on the plane. Hurley wasn't cursed, Ben was a teacher, Sawyer was a cop, etc.
'They' didn't die as the plane passed over, Jack did and as Jimmy Kimmel showed in the 1st episode of the 6th season in the FSideways Rose said You can let go know to Jack but he wasn't ready to yet - so the FS contuines on until he was ready.
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05-24-2010 at 09:35 AM.
05-24-2010 at 09:35 AM.
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But what happens to Juliet and Jacks son? Are they taken away?
Juliet and Jack don't have a son.
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What about widmore's mom? and Ben? Do they still exist? Do they live in the alternate world, and the other people have disappeared.
They don't live in the alternate world, they exist in it.
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What determines how old they look in that life? In the alternate life, passage of time is implied by aging, so I don't accept that there is no "when."
How is it implied?
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Also, I don't believe that they died when the plane passed over the island and continued on its course. Their lives were dramatically different before they got on the plane. Hurley wasn't cursed, Ben was a teacher, Sawyer was a cop, etc.
I don't buy that either. It was just one of possibly many lives they lived prior to seeing and accepting their real lives and deaths.
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Entropic01
05-24-2010 at 09:41 AM.
05-24-2010 at 09:41 AM.
Quote from shhaggy :
The more I think about it, the more I think this:

Lost, at it's essence, it's Jack's story. From the very beginning, it was supposed to just be about him. We learned a lot about other characters in the process, and it was a long, in-depth, and wild ride, but the show lived and died with him. Once he died, he moved into this realm before he went into the light and saw the people that be became close with on the island, but their stories didn't seem to matter. We don't know what happened to them, because once Jack died, the story is over.
Didn't the writers originally intend to kill off Jack's character after the pilot?

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OK so what I got from the finale was that they were all dead to begin with and Oceanic 815 was just a way to ferry these "Lost" souls to a common place so they could work together to "find" their way forward.
I disagree strongly here. I think they made it pretty clear the island was real and the present, flashbacks, and flashforwards were all real just with a really messed up timeline (especially when they were skipping through time)

The flash sideways weren't the real world but just someplace for them to meet up after they all eventually died (and they all died at different times but we will never know exact time of death for characters except for the ones that died on the show). For all we know, Hurley and Ben took care of the island for another good 10+ years.

I personally enjoyed the ending, sure there are lots of questions left and the Island is still mysterious but I kinda like it that way.
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ikonoklast
05-24-2010 at 09:49 AM.
05-24-2010 at 09:49 AM.
Basically, they left it onto the viewers to interpret and fill in the gaps as to what happens to the characters. So this is my take from watching and reading comments here:

1. The Island and what happens on the Island is real
2. There is no sense of time in the parallel universe/dimension, meaning that all the people there died at different times in the "living" dimension
3. Everything is Jack-centric

I like to think everyone on the plane that left the island went home. I don't know whether they lived normal/happy life. Hugo eventually passes the torch to Ben as the guardian of the island and Hugo dies (probably from overeating). I want to say the reason Ben does not go into the church is because he is still the guardian of the Island, but who knows.

Some one fill in more gaps for me. laugh out loud
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05-24-2010 at 09:57 AM.
05-24-2010 at 09:57 AM.
Quote from ikonoklast :
I want to say the reason Ben does not go into the church is because he is still the guardian of the Island, but who knows.
I like this idea
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shhaggy
05-24-2010 at 09:59 AM.
05-24-2010 at 09:59 AM.
Quote from Entropic01 :
Didn't the writers originally intend to kill off Jack's character after the pilot?
Very early in the show's premise, yes. This ending was far from envisioned when the initial series was being thought up. Chances are, the man in the bamboo jungle looking up at the sky was not originally intended to be Jack, assuming that man closing his eyes and dying was always supposed to be the end.

When I say the entire show was supposed to be Jack's story, I don't mean it was planned. It's quite clear that at some point they decided this would be the end, although they didn't run the show that way. They pretty much started this with about 40 mins left in this episode and just let it retroactively be this way. The show was not run as Jack's story, it was only concluded that way. That's why this ending feels like it only provided closure for about 15% of the series.
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Entropic01
05-24-2010 at 10:00 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:00 AM.
Quote from ikonoklast :
Basically, they left it onto the viewers to interpret and fill in the gaps as to what happens to the characters. So this is my take from watching and reading comments here:

1. The Island and what happens on the Island is real
2. There is no sense of time in the parallel universe/dimension, meaning that all the people there died at different times in the "living" dimension
3. Everything is Jack-centric

I like to think everyone on the plane that left the island went home. I don't know whether they lived normal/happy life. Hugo eventually passes the torch to Ben as the guardian of the island and Hugo dies (probably from overeating). I want to say the reason Ben does not go into the church is because he is still the guardian of the Island, but who knows.

Some one fill in more gaps for me. laugh out loud
Why do you say everything is Jack-centric? It may just seem like that since he was the last to "awaken" to the dead realization in the afterlife but Christian said, "you needed all of them and they all needed you". I don't see as Jack being any more important than the others.

I'm thinking Ben is deceased as well but he just doesn't feel worthy/deserving of a happy life as of yet in the afterlife due to all the questionable things he did while on the island.
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05-24-2010 at 10:02 AM.
05-24-2010 at 10:02 AM.
I posted this a few pages back and I'll post it again I guess...
Anyone else think that maybe they actually died when Jacob originally touched them since it was said that their lives ceased to be their own?
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