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Emergency cell phone ban!!!!!!!!

21,793 3,419 December 13, 2011 at 09:44 AM in News (3) USA TODAY
NTSB has called for a emgergency cell phone ban in cars everywhee. No use at all. I applaud this call. There are so many idiots on the road who can't drive and talk at the same time. The worst are the textings. What we need is the cops to actually enforce the law. These things are already illegal in CA but people still do it all the time.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nati...51874966/1
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vec
12-13-2011 at 12:08 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:08 PM.
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I'd seriously be interested in just how legal that would be. Sounds like it's possibly/arguably illegal search and seizure to me. I would never agree to a police officer searching my phone like that.
Without the password, it's impossible. 10 wrong attempts and my phone is automatically wiped out.

Not to mention that it's illegal for them to do.
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12-13-2011 at 12:08 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:08 PM.
Quote from Landers :
I'd seriously be interested in just how legal that would be. Sounds like it's possibly/arguably illegal search and seizure to me. I would never agree to a police officer searching my phone like that.
It should be illegal. Just like putting a GPS tracker on your car without warrant should be illegal. But sadly, the cops get away with many things they shouldn't post 9/11.
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Kolto
12-13-2011 at 12:08 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:08 PM.
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For a phone record. You mean they can't copy from your phone when they pull you over?

http://articles.businessinsider.c...nload-aclu

Oh, I know you've been baffled by how this whole OnStar thing works. Here's a tip. Hit the big button.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-...=mncol;txt

helps to actually read the articles
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"The MSP only uses the DEDs if a search warrant is obtained or if the person possessing the mobile device gives consent," it said in a statement. "The DEDs are not being used to extract citizens' personal information during routine traffic stops."
so yeah, goes back to that pesky warrant problem

Its ok, im sure you're thinking getting a Warrant is as easy as it looked on Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego.
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Landers
12-13-2011 at 12:09 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:09 PM.
Quote from vec :
Without the password, it's impossible. 10 wrong attempts and my phone is automatically wiped out.

Not to mention that it's illegal for them to do.
Same here. I have sensitive work information here on mine with a profile that requires a non-simple passcode. Good luck cracking that in 10 attempts.
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12-13-2011 at 12:10 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:10 PM.
Quote from vec :
Without the password, it's impossible. 10 wrong attempts and my phone is automatically wiped out.

Not to mention that it's illegal for them to do.
They don't need the password. That's the thing. They rip it out of your hands while it's on and fully passworded. Then they copy everything.
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Landers
12-13-2011 at 12:10 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:10 PM.
Quote from travfar :
It should be illegal. Just like putting a GPS tracker on your car without warrant should be illegal. But sadly, the cops get away with many things they shouldn't post 9/11.
Are you one of those InfoWars "Police State" people too? Facepalm
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vec
12-13-2011 at 12:10 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:10 PM.
Quote from travfar :
Really? Here's someone who said that. I know it's hard to concentrated when your nappies are full. Ask mommy to change them and then we can have a big boy talk.
Thanks for proving my point. That post is about your idiotic hands free law that never happen.

I understand that reading comprehension might be difficult for you but you should accept your faults.
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12-13-2011 at 12:11 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:11 PM.
Quote from travfar :
Really? Here's someone who said that. I know it's hard to concentrated when your nappies are full. Ask mommy to change them and then we can have a big boy talk.
Did you read the rest of vec's post? Because going by why you wrote here, you clearly didn't. And if you did, you have a problem with reading comprehension.
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Landers
12-13-2011 at 12:11 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:11 PM.
Quote from travfar :
They don't need the password. That's the thing. They rip it out of your hands while it's on and fully passworded. Then they copy everything.
Good luck with that. I can almost guarantee that shit would be thrown out in court for illegal search and seizure.
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Kolto
12-13-2011 at 12:11 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:11 PM.
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Same here. I have sensitive work information here on mine with a profile that requires a non-simple passcode. Good luck cracking that in 10 attempts.
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12-13-2011 at 12:11 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:11 PM.
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Good for you following the law.. Me, I'm still going to answer my phone as it's convenient to me. I'm also going to continue smoke and drive. And text and drive. And do all the other things that you seem to want to ban. Mainly because it's convenient to me and pisses you off.
And I will hope to hell you and I never share the same stretch of roadway.

I'm not sure how I feel about a ban. I'm more for it than I am against it, but still not sold to one side or the other.

I don't care if people make decisions that solely impact their lives. I respect the right a person has to make their own choices, but your potential bad choice shouldn't have the ability to impact the life of someone else.

If someone drives down an empty stretch of road in the middle of nowhere, smoking, talking, jazzercising, reading, etc then whatever. As long as it only affects their life, I really don't care. They will be the only one to suffer any potential consequence of their actions.

It really isn't necessary to talk on the phone while driving, and if the call is that important then you should pull over. Distracted drivers annoy the shit out of me, same with drunk drivers.

Then there are all of these variables and issues that come into play, blah blah blah. Yep, still torn.
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12-13-2011 at 12:11 PM.
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Thanks for proving my point. That post is about your idiotic hands free law that never happen.

I understand that reading comprehension might be difficult for you but you should accept your faults.
Iagree
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12-13-2011 at 12:12 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:12 PM.
Quote from travfar :
Really? Here's someone who said that. I know it's hard to concentrated when your nappies are full. Ask mommy to change them and then we can have a big boy talk.
He wasn't referring to TALKING ON A HAND HELD PHONE WHILE DRIVING.

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12-13-2011 at 12:12 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:12 PM.
Quote from travfar :
They don't need the password. That's the thing. They rip it out of your hands while it's on and fully passworded. Then they copy everything.

Another thing that will never happen in real life.

What world do you live in?
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12-13-2011 at 12:12 PM.
12-13-2011 at 12:12 PM.
Quote from infesttragedy :
And I will hope to hell you and I never shame the same stretch of roadway.

I'm not sure how I feel about a ban. I'm more for it than I am against it, but still not sold to one side or the other.

I don't care if people make decisions that solely impact their lives. I respect the right a person has to make their own choices, but your potential bad choice shouldn't have the ability to impact the life of someone else.

If someone drives down an empty stretch of road in the middle of nowhere, smoking, talking, jazzercising, reading, etc then whatever. As long as it only affects their life, I really don't care. They will be the only one to suffer any potential consequence of their actions.

It really isn't necessary to talk on the phone while driving, and if the call is that important then you should pull over. Distracted drivers annoy the shit out of me, same with drunk drivers.

Then there are all of these variables and issues that come into play, blah blah blah. Yep, still torn.
i hope i don't shame the same stretch of roadway as you too.
Imagine all the shame that'll go on, it'll make the roadway all shameful and just disappear.
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