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expiredeuuser1201825 posted Mar 16, 2021 09:27 PM
expiredeuuser1201825 posted Mar 16, 2021 09:27 PM

ASUS ROG Zephyrus 3070 15.6" Gaming Laptop 1749.99 @ best buy

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AMD 5900HS
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16GB of ram (8gb soldered and 8gb upgradeable)
3070 80-100 watt variant (max q)
1tb storage (2 nvme ssd slots)

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AMD 5900HS
15.6 inch 2560x1440p
16GB of ram (8gb soldered and 8gb upgradeable)
3070 80-100 watt variant (max q)
1tb storage (2 nvme ssd slots)

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Model: ASUS - ROG Zephyrus 15.6" QHD Gaming Laptop - AMD Ryzen 9 - 16GB Memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 - 1TB SSD - Eclipse Grey - Eclipse Grey

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Mar 16, 2021 09:53 PM
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ancientmanMar 16, 2021 09:53 PM
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3070 wattage?
-nevermind, it was maxq variant
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Quote from osideplayer :
Ships in 2-3 weeks

AMD 5900HS
15.6 inch 2560x1440p
16GB of ram (8gb soldered and 8gb upgradeable)
3070 80-100 watt variant (max q)
1tb storage (2 nvme ssd slots)

Please see link attached

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6448848
Isn't the laptop crippled in the sense that the GPU doesn't have access to the entire 115 base watt capability of the 3070 plus the addition 15 watts boost for a total of 130 watts?
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Quote from RussianBytes :
Isn't the laptop crippled in the sense that the GPU doesn't have access to the entire 115 base watt capability of the 3070 plus the addition 15 watts boost for a total of 130 watts?

Definitely, but it also shaves off a pound compared to other laptops, so you gain portability, but loose performance. Either way there's a lack of benchmarks and reviews, so I can't say how much performance you loose.
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Quote from osideplayer :
Definitely, but it also shaves off a pound compared to other laptops, so you gain portability, but loose performance. Either way there's a lack of benchmarks and reviews, so I can't say how much performance you loose.
WHY WATTS / TDP MATTER

Per rruff:

There is no such thing as "standard wattage" for 3000 series cards. 2000 series had MaxQ and "everything else" which narrowed it down a little.
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3000 series cards have an optional feature whereby they can boost to a higher power level if the CPU demand is low. For instance the max on a 3060 is 115W-130W, where that extra 15W is the extra boost.

USING 2060 115 watts as base at 100%

3060@60W= 94%
3060@75 W = 100% (inserted by RussianBytes for MSI "GF75 Thin Gaming Laptop" RTX 3060 GPU for $1300 at COSTCO)
2060@115W= 100%
3060@90 W = 105% (75 Base Watts+15 watts boost, (inserted by RussianBytes MSI "GF75 Thin Gaming Laptop" RTX 3060 GPU, $1300 COSTCO)
2070@115W= 110% (inserted by RussianBytes for MSI "GE75 Gaming Laptop" RTX 2070 for $1,200 at COSTCO)
2060 $115 watts AND further undervolting and overclocking: 110%
3060@115W= 115%
2070S@115W= 120%
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Mar 17, 2021 12:13 AM
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MrSchutzMar 17, 2021 12:13 AM
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I had this laptop for about two weeks. Beautiful laptop. Probably the best build quality on the market thus far. GPU is 85W variant, and it's missing a camera which is why I chose to take it back. I'm assuming the $50 price drop is due to HP Omen releasing a similar spec'd laptop at $1739.99. Omen has the 130W GPU though, but it's not going to remotely compare in build quality.

Patiently waiting for the Legin 5 Pro to become available. May even go with the G17 Strix since it comes with the full 3070.
Last edited by MrSchutz March 16, 2021 at 05:17 PM.
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Mar 17, 2021 12:42 AM
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supertangMar 17, 2021 12:42 AM
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How are the materials/feel? That's something I always have troublr undersranding while shopping online.
Mar 17, 2021 12:45 AM
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lucifer22Mar 17, 2021 12:45 AM
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In my opinion, getting the 3060 variant for $1500 is more reasonable. Just my opinion.
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robj144Mar 17, 2021 12:45 AM
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Quote from RussianBytes :
WHY WATTS / TDP MATTER

Per rruff:

There is no such thing as "standard wattage" for 3000 series cards. 2000 series had MaxQ and "everything else" which narrowed it down a little.
----
3000 series cards have an optional feature whereby they can boost to a higher power level if the CPU demand is low. For instance the max on a 3060 is 115W-130W, where that extra 15W is the extra boost.

USING 2060 115 watts as base at 100%

3060@60W= 94%
3060@75 W = 100% (inserted by RussianBytes for MSI "GF75 Thin Gaming Laptop" RTX 3060 GPU for $1300 at COSTCO)
2060@115W= 100%
3060@90 W = 105% (75 Base Watts+15 watts boost, (inserted by RussianBytes MSI "GF75 Thin Gaming Laptop" RTX 3060 GPU, $1300 COSTCO)
2070@115W= 110% (inserted by RussianBytes for MSI "GE75 Gaming Laptop" RTX 2070 for $1,200 at COSTCO)
2060 $115 watts AND further undervolting and overclocking: 110%
3060@115W= 115%
2070S@115W= 120%
This is a 3070 though, right?
Mar 17, 2021 12:58 AM
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audioCloverMar 17, 2021 12:58 AM
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Quote from supertang :
How are the materials/feel? That's something I always have troublr undersranding while shopping online.
It's pretty good, not like MacBook build quality but not bad. One thing I've noticed is it can "creek" at times. Especially when it gets warm. Not a dealbreaker but some reviews note this too.
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DealhunterPNWMar 17, 2021 01:16 AM
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Quote from robj144 :
This is a 3070 though, right?
80w + 20w dynamic boost
Mar 17, 2021 01:18 AM
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HusbeardMar 17, 2021 01:18 AM
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With this info, I might cancel the order.
Mar 17, 2021 01:22 AM
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NoeazybucketsMar 17, 2021 01:22 AM
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I returned this laptop cause the speakers were defective. Others had the same issue. Check it online.
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biostone123Mar 17, 2021 01:22 AM
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(8gb soldered and 8gb upgradeable)

What's the point of only one being upgradable? You lose the dual channel benefit. I really don't understand ASUS's engineer now. Not wise, at least.


Quote from osideplayer :
Ships in 2-3 weeks

AMD 5900HS
15.6 inch 2560x1440p
16GB of ram (8gb soldered and 8gb upgradeable)
3070 80-100 watt variant (max q)
1tb storage (2 nvme ssd slots)

Please see link attached

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus...Id=6448848
Mar 17, 2021 01:27 AM
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robj144Mar 17, 2021 01:27 AM
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Quote from inner-G :
80w + 20w dynamic boost
Right, but the hardware is different, so how does the 3070 variant compare?

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Mar 17, 2021 01:29 AM
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DandropMar 17, 2021 01:29 AM
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I agree with you, Asus shouldn't have soldered the ram. How big of a performance hit when it isn't running dual channel?

Quote from biostone123 :
(8gb soldered and 8gb upgradeable)

What's the point of only one being upgradable? You lose the dual channel benefit. I really don't understand ASUS's engineer now. Not wise, at least.

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