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Model: Refurbished Gateway GWTN141-10BL 14.1" FHD i5-1135G7 2.4GHz Intel Iris Xe Graphics 16GB RAM 512GB SSD Win 10 Home Blue
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Not going to quote but people are mixing up terms quite a bit (like SATA with SSD).
SSD = solid state disk. Just means the drive uses "flash" memory instead of the older, slower, spinning magnetic platters (hard disk drive). Thankfully nowadays these are used in most computers and pretty much no one should be running a computer off a hard disk drive.
M.2 = This is a "form factor," i.e. the slot that the SSDs plug into in most modern laptops. Note m.2 drives come in different lengths, with the "2280" size being most common.
It gets confusing because there are M.2 drives that use the SATA interface and drives that use NVME interface. And then on computers, there are M.2 "slots" that only support SATA, there are "slots" that only support NVME (rare), and "slots" (most) that support both. Thus it is sometimes possible for a drive to physically fit but not function.
The NVME interface has more bandwidth than the SATA interface (i.e. the drive talks to the computer through a "fatter" pipe) so in theory is better, but only if the drives in question are fast enough to fill up the "pipe" (i.e. the pipe doesn't become a bottleneck). NVME drives will usually "test" as being faster using performance tests but often there is no noticeable difference to the user between an SATA SSD and an NVME SSD in "everyday" computing tasks.
Maybe someone can verify what I think somebody tried to share, which is that this laptop has two m.2 slots, but neither one supports NVME drives. Is this the case?
I'm not talking about the Evo spec but rather the fact there are 2 variants of this exact laptop and the 11th gen processor variant supposedly supports charging through USB C, where the 10th gen processor variant doesn't.
I have the 15.6inch version of this laptop with i5-1035G1. It supports USB-C charging
lame.... no backlit keyboard. no ram slot....no 4k60hz output...... no buy for me.....!!!
those are my 3 must haves for any laptops!
Even now 2+ yrs out, the wm motile m142 still kicks ass (even with the now somewhat outdate 3500u cpu).... And would still be a great bargain if wm sells it again! lol....
lame.... no backlit keyboard. no ram slot....no 4k60hz output...... no buy for me.....!!!
those are my 3 must haves for any laptops!
Even now 2+ yrs out, the wm motile m142 still kicks ass (even with the now somewhat outdate 3500u cpu).... And would still be a great bargain if wm sells it again! lol....
Sit in the light.
16GB will carry you beyond this laptops useful life span.
4096x2304@60Hz is the max HDMI res for this CPU according to Intels website
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No number pad on right side of keyboard and no backlighting on keyboard are the two biggest dings on this machine, in my opinion. Otherwise this checks a lot of boxes!
This is a smaller form factor than what you're picturing if you think there should be a separate number pad section on the keyboard, or you've got very small hands.
I think the models with the 11th gen processors (this one) are supposed to be able to charge over USB C up to 45 watts. Can't test this, but there were some comments about it on $399 deal
The Refurb I bought did not came with the Proprietary charger. It charged with USB C but died within a week. Possibly because I was charging it that way.
CPU's are designed to do many things but the Motherboard must be made to support things. If not they do not work. Like CPU's are designed for HDMI 2.1 bur it is rare to see even 2.0. The 12th gen will support DDR5 but do not expect to see much DDR5 anytime soon. Most likely not till 2023.
Compared with the HP 15z-ef2000, you are taking 30% off the CPU performance with a smaller screen for 8GB extra RAM, finger print scanner, and $40 savings. Not a bad deal. Taking 512GB SSD in place of 128GB NVME which does sound more useful for every day use. I dare say this is the better deal if you don't want to upgrade after purchase.
Personally I want Wifi 6 for streaming my desktop to my laptop in home, so I will be upgrading regardless. I will also likely buy 1TB NVME as I plan on keeping this laptop for the next 8 years, same as my former one which could also be upgraded. Timing this with a Windows 11 upgrade would be incredibly convenient.
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Not going to quote but people are mixing up terms quite a bit (like SATA with SSD).
SSD = solid state disk. Just means the drive uses "flash" memory instead of the older, slower, spinning magnetic platters (hard disk drive). Thankfully nowadays these are used in most computers and pretty much no one should be running a computer off a hard disk drive.
M.2 = This is a "form factor," i.e. the slot that the SSDs plug into in most modern laptops. Note m.2 drives come in different lengths, with the "2280" size being most common.
It gets confusing because there are M.2 drives that use the SATA interface and drives that use NVME interface. And then on computers, there are M.2 "slots" that only support SATA, there are "slots" that only support NVME (rare), and "slots" (most) that support both. Thus it is sometimes possible for a drive to physically fit but not function.
The NVME interface has more bandwidth than the SATA interface (i.e. the drive talks to the computer through a "fatter" pipe) so in theory is better, but only if the drives in question are fast enough to fill up the "pipe" (i.e. the pipe doesn't become a bottleneck). NVME drives will usually "test" as being faster using performance tests but often there is no noticeable difference to the user between an SATA SSD and an NVME SSD in "everyday" computing tasks.
Maybe someone can verify what I think somebody tried to share, which is that this laptop has two m.2 slots, but neither one supports NVME drives. Is this the case?
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which processor is better Ryzen 5 3450 2.1 Ghz or the intel one?
At least for me when I owned the previous version of this with the 3450U (16GB RAM), it down-clocked every chance it could. I was left with slowish performance (20,000 Octane), but otherwise everything worked fine.
No complaints other than I couldn't get a NVMe to work and the case construction in the previous one was pretty flexible and made of soft plastic.
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SSD = solid state disk. Just means the drive uses "flash" memory instead of the older, slower, spinning magnetic platters (hard disk drive). Thankfully nowadays these are used in most computers and pretty much no one should be running a computer off a hard disk drive.
M.2 = This is a "form factor," i.e. the slot that the SSDs plug into in most modern laptops. Note m.2 drives come in different lengths, with the "2280" size being most common.
It gets confusing because there are M.2 drives that use the SATA interface and drives that use NVME interface. And then on computers, there are M.2 "slots" that only support SATA, there are "slots" that only support NVME (rare), and "slots" (most) that support both. Thus it is sometimes possible for a drive to physically fit but not function.
The NVME interface has more bandwidth than the SATA interface (i.e. the drive talks to the computer through a "fatter" pipe) so in theory is better, but only if the drives in question are fast enough to fill up the "pipe" (i.e. the pipe doesn't become a bottleneck). NVME drives will usually "test" as being faster using performance tests but often there is no noticeable difference to the user between an SATA SSD and an NVME SSD in "everyday" computing tasks.
Maybe someone can verify what I think somebody tried to share, which is that this laptop has two m.2 slots, but neither one supports NVME drives. Is this the case?
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those are my 3 must haves for any laptops!
Even now 2+ yrs out, the wm motile m142 still kicks ass (even with the now somewhat outdate 3500u cpu).... And would still be a great bargain if wm sells it again! lol....
those are my 3 must haves for any laptops!
Even now 2+ yrs out, the wm motile m142 still kicks ass (even with the now somewhat outdate 3500u cpu).... And would still be a great bargain if wm sells it again! lol....
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CPU's are designed to do many things but the Motherboard must be made to support things. If not they do not work. Like CPU's are designed for HDMI 2.1 bur it is rare to see even 2.0. The 12th gen will support DDR5 but do not expect to see much DDR5 anytime soon. Most likely not till 2023.
Personally I want Wifi 6 for streaming my desktop to my laptop in home, so I will be upgrading regardless. I will also likely buy 1TB NVME as I plan on keeping this laptop for the next 8 years, same as my former one which could also be upgraded. Timing this with a Windows 11 upgrade would be incredibly convenient.
Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank MaKlounkee
SSD = solid state disk. Just means the drive uses "flash" memory instead of the older, slower, spinning magnetic platters (hard disk drive). Thankfully nowadays these are used in most computers and pretty much no one should be running a computer off a hard disk drive.
M.2 = This is a "form factor," i.e. the slot that the SSDs plug into in most modern laptops. Note m.2 drives come in different lengths, with the "2280" size being most common.
It gets confusing because there are M.2 drives that use the SATA interface and drives that use NVME interface. And then on computers, there are M.2 "slots" that only support SATA, there are "slots" that only support NVME (rare), and "slots" (most) that support both. Thus it is sometimes possible for a drive to physically fit but not function.
The NVME interface has more bandwidth than the SATA interface (i.e. the drive talks to the computer through a "fatter" pipe) so in theory is better, but only if the drives in question are fast enough to fill up the "pipe" (i.e. the pipe doesn't become a bottleneck). NVME drives will usually "test" as being faster using performance tests but often there is no noticeable difference to the user between an SATA SSD and an NVME SSD in "everyday" computing tasks.
Maybe someone can verify what I think somebody tried to share, which is that this laptop has two m.2 slots, but neither one supports NVME drives. Is this the case?
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No complaints other than I couldn't get a NVMe to work and the case construction in the previous one was pretty flexible and made of soft plastic.
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