GOTRAX GXL V2 Commuting Electric Scooter (Black)
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Model: GOTRAX GXL Commuter Electric Scooter, Black | Holiday Gift
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Good price but expect battery to fail after 1 year with regular use. Customer service is the worst. If you get lucky, you could get one that is 17-18MPH instead of 15-16MPH
I've had mine for 3 years now and I use it regularly to commute (about 2.5 miles each way) and in the rain as well. I'm on my 3rd set of tires recommend that you place their tube tires with the solid ones! Battery life isn't as good as it was brand new (have to charge every day now) but it has been dead rock reliable. Probably will pick up a 2nd one to be my spare when my 1st does die.
There are so many electric scooters and e-bikes in the market today. Most of these companies will get consolidated or shut down in a few years. Finally all we will be left with is additional e-waste that does not have replacement parts.
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For a total noob... What is the best electric scooter you can buy for kids / adult use? I want the Toyota of scooters. Good battery, long life, and reliable.
The battery chemistry LiCoO2 most use is not conducive to long life (used in phones). They are limited to 300-500 charge cycles. You can try to mitigate a couple of ways:
not charging it fully and not discharging it fully (80% max down to 20%) effectively leaving you 60% usable capacity. Calculate the distance you need to travel and find an adequate battery that meets or exceeds that. i.e. get the biggest battery you will likely need but not too big otherwise that's unnecessary weight.
slowly charge it to not overheat the cells
not charging in the cold temps
Tesla vehicles do all of these things behind the scenes.. because they can't have their cars dropping range as quickly as your smartphone.
Short of that.. change the battery chemistry to LiFePO4. You can get 2000 charge cycles. But LFPs have lower energy density, so you'd be carrying more battery weight for a given capacity vs LCO. e.g. a 36v 10ah battery would about weight 30-40% more in a LFP than LCO.
No one makes these things in LFP. So there's really no magical answer to give you a Toyota Corolla of scooters. Hence I'm building one myself.
I've had this scooter since February of this year and it's been great! I use it daily for work under 3 Miles a day and it's great. I used my Wells Fargo credit card and registered it with visa to extend the warranty for an additional year, hopefully I won't have to.
Practically speaking no. Because everything is proprietary and specific to this scooter.
If this was an ebike, you'd be able to go faster by changing the battery to a higher voltage and a controller that can handle the higher voltage. But the motor (assuming that stayed the same) would be generating more heat because you're pushing 500watts our of a motor that's 250watts. So you'd have to monitor the temperatures.
After that last deal fiasco with Camping World selling a Gotrax scooter that they never ending up fulfilling, I would't do business with either of them. Extended warranty is a good idea but it is only as good as the company who covers it. Gotrax has a reputation for bad customer service.
I'm concerned with the battery everyone comments on. I'm looking for a scooter to go .6mi from train to work. So I wonder if the battery goes completely dead or would it still work for me (since I only need it for half a mile)??
The battery chemistry LiCoO2 most use is not conducive to long life (used in phones). They are limited to 300-500 charge cycles. You can try to mitigate a couple of ways:
not charging it fully and not discharging it fully (80% max down to 20%) effectively leaving you 60% usable capacity. Calculate the distance you need to travel and find an adequate battery that meets or exceeds that. i.e. get the biggest battery you will likely need but not too big otherwise that's unnecessary weight.
slowly charge it to not overheat the cells
not charging in the cold temps
Tesla vehicles do all of these things behind the scenes.. because they can't have their cars dropping range as quickly as your smartphone.
Short of that.. change the battery chemistry to LiFePO4. You can get 2000 charge cycles. But LFPs have lower energy density, so you'd be carrying more battery weight for a given capacity vs LCO. e.g. a 36v 10ah battery would about weight 30-40% more in a LFP than LCO.
No one makes these things in LFP. So there's really no magical answer to give you a Toyota Corolla of scooters. Hence I'm building one myself.
I don't see the battery chemistry as a huge problem. I built my own ebike 4.5 years ago, back when bespoke ebike battery packs of any sort were really expensive (~$400-500 for 15ah). I deicded to use three of those refurbished 36v 4.4ah hoverboard battery packs made up of twenty 18650s in parallel in an ammo box, which only cost about $100 total. At some point maybe 2 years later I added a fourth $30 battery pack, because I realized it would fit in the box and more range couldn't hurt. It worked pretty well, and since then only one pack has failed -- because I let the bottom of the box get wet and it and it corroded. Because it was a cheap pack with cheap replaceable parts, I really abused and neglected it. It was left in the cold and rain a bunch of times, wasn't used or charged for 6 months after a back injury, etc. 2 of the packs still work perfectly and have about 75-80% capacity. One was even briefly shorted at some point (whoops!) and has a pretty messed up xt60 connector. The fourth one I added seems to be of inferior quality and didn't hold up as well, though, but is still doing pretty well.
After all this time, the components on the bike that DID fail were the rear hub, which has made me give up on this particular bike, the rear rack, and the power switch I put on the battery pack, and some of the xt60/xt90 connectors. The ebay ebike kit has had zero issues. I did lose some speed and range over time, but not much really.
Basically, if you get 10 miles a charge, 500 charge cycles is 5,000 miles. Most people will not be using this that heavily, and if you do, you're probably likely to have serious mechanical or electronics issues before battery issues. Most battery failures are probably going to be from taking poor care of them and age. Most packs do have replacements on the market, and really aren't that expensive. Even if you can't find the exact pack you need, you can often find something that will fit and function. Even if you can't, $220 plus $50 in electricity and maybe $60 in tires to go 5,000 miles is insanely cheap transportation, and you can just buy another scooter.
Though personally, I really recommend an ebike. And if battery replacement is a concern, they're more adaptable in that regard. But I'm in Philly, and the potholes out here are no joke. If I was on a scooter and not an ebike, I probably would have taken a serious dive several times by now.
I'm concerned with the battery everyone comments on. I'm looking for a scooter to go .6mi from train to work. So I wonder if the battery goes completely dead or would it still work for me (since I only need it for half a mile)??
If you need a scooter for .6 miles.. it's probably not worth the weight you have to carry on the train. Just get a skateboard.
I've had mine for 3 years now and I use it regularly to commute (about 2.5 miles each way) and in the rain as well. I'm on my 3rd set of tires recommend that you place their tube tires with the solid ones! Battery life isn't as good as it was brand new (have to charge every day now) but it has been dead rock reliable. Probably will pick up a 2nd one to be my spare when my 1st does die.
Any recommendations on solid tires to swap the tube ones with? Thanks!
got this GXL V2 for free after they sent one with a dead battery and gotrax CS was rude so we filed a chargeback,
So I clipped the internal battery and soldered on a coaxial jack to connect external battery module. The 20 cell hover pack on ebay for only $38 was like new and charges great with the original gotrax charger. Great little city EV for $38, a win for deflationary forces in transportation.
I do worry that many of these scooters could become unnecessarily wasted by those who don't know how to solder. Let me know if you need any help with that.
got this GXL V2 for free after they sent one with a dead battery and gotrax CS was rude so we filed a chargeback,
So I clipped the internal battery and soldered on a coaxial jack to connect external battery module. The 20 cell hover pack on ebay for only $38 was like new and charges great with the original gotrax charger. Great little city EV for $38, a win for deflationary forces in transportation.
I do worry that many of these scooters could become unnecessarily wasted by those who don't know how to solder. Let me know if you need any help with that.
Holy cow this sounds awesome, can you share some pic?
Holy cow this sounds awesome, can you share some pic?
Yeah it was slick, my GF very happy with it. I think the details of this mod could help lot of people, and wasn't difficult. Where should I post the details?
got this GXL V2 for free after they sent one with a dead battery and gotrax CS was rude so we filed a chargeback,
So I clipped the internal battery and soldered on a coaxial jack to connect external battery module. The 20 cell hover pack on ebay for only $38 was like new and charges great with the original gotrax charger. Great little city EV for $38, a win for deflationary forces in transportation.
I do worry that many of these scooters could become unnecessarily wasted by those who don't know how to solder. Let me know if you need any help with that.
Is the coaxial jack for a different charger? How did you know the control board would work with a different battery
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not charging it fully and not discharging it fully (80% max down to 20%) effectively leaving you 60% usable capacity. Calculate the distance you need to travel and find an adequate battery that meets or exceeds that. i.e. get the biggest battery you will likely need but not too big otherwise that's unnecessary weight.
slowly charge it to not overheat the cells
not charging in the cold temps
Tesla vehicles do all of these things behind the scenes.. because they can't have their cars dropping range as quickly as your smartphone.
Short of that.. change the battery chemistry to LiFePO4. You can get 2000 charge cycles. But LFPs have lower energy density, so you'd be carrying more battery weight for a given capacity vs LCO. e.g. a 36v 10ah battery would about weight 30-40% more in a LFP than LCO.
No one makes these things in LFP. So there's really no magical answer to give you a Toyota Corolla of scooters. Hence I'm building one myself.
If this was an ebike, you'd be able to go faster by changing the battery to a higher voltage and a controller that can handle the higher voltage. But the motor (assuming that stayed the same) would be generating more heat because you're pushing 500watts our of a motor that's 250watts. So you'd have to monitor the temperatures.
not charging it fully and not discharging it fully (80% max down to 20%) effectively leaving you 60% usable capacity. Calculate the distance you need to travel and find an adequate battery that meets or exceeds that. i.e. get the biggest battery you will likely need but not too big otherwise that's unnecessary weight.
slowly charge it to not overheat the cells
not charging in the cold temps
Tesla vehicles do all of these things behind the scenes.. because they can't have their cars dropping range as quickly as your smartphone.
Short of that.. change the battery chemistry to LiFePO4. You can get 2000 charge cycles. But LFPs have lower energy density, so you'd be carrying more battery weight for a given capacity vs LCO. e.g. a 36v 10ah battery would about weight 30-40% more in a LFP than LCO.
No one makes these things in LFP. So there's really no magical answer to give you a Toyota Corolla of scooters. Hence I'm building one myself.
After all this time, the components on the bike that DID fail were the rear hub, which has made me give up on this particular bike, the rear rack, and the power switch I put on the battery pack, and some of the xt60/xt90 connectors. The ebay ebike kit has had zero issues. I did lose some speed and range over time, but not much really.
Basically, if you get 10 miles a charge, 500 charge cycles is 5,000 miles. Most people will not be using this that heavily, and if you do, you're probably likely to have serious mechanical or electronics issues before battery issues. Most battery failures are probably going to be from taking poor care of them and age. Most packs do have replacements on the market, and really aren't that expensive. Even if you can't find the exact pack you need, you can often find something that will fit and function. Even if you can't, $220 plus $50 in electricity and maybe $60 in tires to go 5,000 miles is insanely cheap transportation, and you can just buy another scooter.
Though personally, I really recommend an ebike. And if battery replacement is a concern, they're more adaptable in that regard. But I'm in Philly, and the potholes out here are no joke. If I was on a scooter and not an ebike, I probably would have taken a serious dive several times by now.
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Any recommendations on solid tires to swap the tube ones with? Thanks!
So I clipped the internal battery and soldered on a coaxial jack to connect external battery module. The 20 cell hover pack on ebay for only $38 was like new and charges great with the original gotrax charger. Great little city EV for $38, a win for deflationary forces in transportation.
I do worry that many of these scooters could become unnecessarily wasted by those who don't know how to solder. Let me know if you need any help with that.
So I clipped the internal battery and soldered on a coaxial jack to connect external battery module. The 20 cell hover pack on ebay for only $38 was like new and charges great with the original gotrax charger. Great little city EV for $38, a win for deflationary forces in transportation.
I do worry that many of these scooters could become unnecessarily wasted by those who don't know how to solder. Let me know if you need any help with that.
I do but I'm trying to save some commute time. I also want to zip past the crazy hobos...
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So I clipped the internal battery and soldered on a coaxial jack to connect external battery module. The 20 cell hover pack on ebay for only $38 was like new and charges great with the original gotrax charger. Great little city EV for $38, a win for deflationary forces in transportation.
I do worry that many of these scooters could become unnecessarily wasted by those who don't know how to solder. Let me know if you need any help with that.
Is the coaxial jack for a different charger? How did you know the control board would work with a different battery