expiredScarletShow3424 posted Aug 15, 2022 08:12 AM
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expiredScarletShow3424 posted Aug 15, 2022 08:12 AM
14TB Seagate Exos X16 7200 RPM 3.5" Enterprise OEM Hard Drive
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$500
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If i had the choice to get a drive now it would be
X18 14TB
X18 18TB
If I wanted to save money but have more storage I would get a X16 16TB , it would mean lower speeds and have less platters than the X18
They even have 18TB X20 and 20Tb X20 out now. I am not wasting 400-500 bucks though, even if they were on sale for 300-350 I would wait until the price drops to 250.
I know what i am talking about ,
Hitachi and WD are great drives and equal to seagate. A home user will never see the difference on how many drives or what drives die in the future unless you are running several petabytes . Like i said I own over 2000TB , have 2 unraid servers, and several desktop PCs running 24/7 and only had , one 18TB X18 Seagate CMR die "died within 2 days" and have had a few SMR drives die over the years.
If a drive fails it will be within a week after you write several TB to it. SMR drives seem to just randomly die when reading and writing they are POS and thats why Target, bestbuy, staples, walmart , officemax , love to carry these things , because they are probably marked up 50-100%
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I see they have 20TB for 350.00 on front page, not a great deal imo. Unless you have a tiny mini case and you want local storage. I can buy two 14TB =28TB recertified seagate drives for 328.00 no tax free shipping.
I just dont get these hard drive threads on slick deals.. When 18TB goes t 240.00 i would be interested or 16TB goes to 175.00
I ask because another seller (on NewEgg) is offering a 3 year warranty but it's through them and not Seagate. My guess is that it's usually better to have a manufacturers warranty.
I know people think I'm crazy for buying refurbished drives but I'm on a tight budget and two of my current external drives were refurbs, and they've been fine for 2 years, despite running 24/7 for 5 days a week streaming, and compressing videos.
It's still ongoing, but in short: If it's OEM (defined by Seagate), Seagate won't honor your warranty even if you can register it on your Seagate account (confirmed by multiple Seagate representative).
If you really fight Newegg and ask them why they listed warranty, they MIGHT honor it themselves but took super long time to do anything (including replying your email).
Don't suffer this like I do, return the OEM drive immediately to avoid all craps.
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Yes, it's a small sample size, but I've never had misfortune with plenty of drives from other brands. I really want to get one of these because they seem good and the price is right, but I'm genuinely fearful because of the past (although it was more than a decade ago).
Otherwise, eventually you land up not buying any brand.
Don't buy a model when it first comes out with a significant change. Research reviews for bad experiences and then buy models that haven't shown a persistent failure point. You will do fine then with any major brand.
I ask because another seller (on NewEgg) is offering a 3 year warranty but it's through them and not Seagate. My guess is that it's usually better to have a manufacturers warranty.
I know people think I'm crazy for buying refurbished drives but I'm on a tight budget and two of my current external drives were refurbs, and they've been fine for 2 years, despite running 24/7 for 5 days a week streaming, and compressing videos.
Those interested in refurb drives should understand there's no economically-feasible way for a manufacturer to refurbish a drive other than performing I/O operations to it via software, such as wiping the drive, regenerating/updating the bad block table, etc.. They're certainly not opening the drive since that would be labor-cost prohibitive for the prices these drives are selling at.
I ask because another seller (on NewEgg) is offering a 3 year warranty but it's through them and not Seagate. My guess is that it's usually better to have a manufacturers warranty.
I know people think I'm crazy for buying refurbished drives but I'm on a tight budget and two of my current external drives were refurbs, and they've been fine for 2 years, despite running 24/7 for 5 days a week streaming, and compressing videos.
They get the drives from Seagate and are recertified , and checked with more tests than a new drive to make sure it is in working order, better than new.
The drive label will be a white label saying recertified.
I will be spending 5k and buying a huge lot at a discount more 20+ and will receive 5-6 bucks off any drive they sell.
I was also told they are doing business with a crypto farmer with a 4 million dollar budget . You wont find any other reseller this reputable.
If you want a guaranteed warranty through WD or Seagate make sure you buy on their website . Any other drive from a 3rd party is questionable unless you buy from Best buy etc and always check the serial number when you receive it on the seagate website.
The store i mentioned also checks the drive for up to 1-10 hours when they receive it from seagate and all smart info is erased. They do this in case a defective drive was delivered from the manufacture due to shipping damage etc.
Like i said earlier do some sort of preclear to check the drive or write to the entire drive to see if there is an issue. Drives usually die after a few weeks of operation, after that they w ill last many years. Drives in operation should stay under 45c and handled properly or you may run into issues in the future. CMR is built alot better in my opinion . From my experience i had 1 seagate x18 18TB die after a week out of 150 drives i run constantly in my servers which are all CMR. I have not had any errors on any of them in two unraid servers which have been powered on over a year.
good luck
Those interested in refurb drives should understand there's no economically-feasible way for a manufacturer to refurbish a drive other than performing I/O operations to it via software, such as wiping the drive, regenerating/updating the bad block table, etc.. They're certainly not opening the drive since that would be labor-cost prohibitive for the prices these drives are selling at.
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