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expiredsr71 posted Mar 04, 2023 08:30 AM

1TB Intel 670p Series M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 QLC Solid State Drive

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Newegg has 1TB Intel 670p Series M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 QLC Solid State Drive SSD (SSDPEKNU010TZX1) on sale for $45.99. Shipping is free.

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About the Product
  • 670p Series
  • 3D4 QLC Memory
  • 144-Layer/3D NAND
  • Up to 3500 MB/s Max Sequential Read Speeds
  • Up to 2700 MB/s Max Sequential Write Speeds

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  • About this deal:
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  • About this product:
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Newegg has 1TB Intel 670p Series M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 QLC Solid State Drive SSD (SSDPEKNU010TZX1) on sale for $45.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member sr71 for finding this deal.

About the Product
  • 670p Series
  • 3D4 QLC Memory
  • 144-Layer/3D NAND
  • Up to 3500 MB/s Max Sequential Read Speeds
  • Up to 2700 MB/s Max Sequential Write Speeds

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price is lower than a recent Frontpage Deal that was only available to Amazon Prime members.
  • About this product:
    • Limited 5-Year Warranty
  • Please read the Forum Thread for more deal discussion.

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sahakiel
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People tend read up on stuff, see "x isn't as good", turn it into "x is bad" and run with it. It's why advertisers use buzzwords.

DRAM is used to cache lookup tables that tell the drive where in the flash chip your data resides. Without that cache, drives use part of the flash, which is much slower and increases wear. When NVME really started to take off, Silicon Motion and others started making controllers that cut out DRAM to lower costs. In response, NVME protocol got updated to add HMB, which uses a bit of system RAM instead.

This drive uses HMB. In most cases, it's negligibly slower. You should only run into slowdowns with USB enclosures or similar where the SSD is not allowed to access system RAM.

And just to throw it in there, the speed of the flash also makes a difference after you exhaust the SLC cache, which you see when writing large amount of data in a short amount of time. That'll be far more noticeable than whether a drive has DRAM.
PaulL3556
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The Intel 670p has built in DRAM, the crucial one doesn't have any. Since the p3 plus is more expensive, it's main advantage over the 670p doesn't exist.

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Newegg [newegg.com] has 1TB Intel 670p Series M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe 3.0 x4 SSD Solid State Drive (SSDPEKNU010TZX1) for $45.99. Shipping is free.
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Nice deal thank you! I was bummed I missed the $109 drive this morning, so this fits perfectly and even though gen 3 I think the "enterprise" aspect will be just right for the 2TB to take on boot-drive responsibilities in an itx build that is coming together.

Now only need storage prices to stop with all these reductions so I can stop emptying out wallet and filling heart with fomo and/or buyer's remorse with each new/better deal that comes down the pike!
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J3ffMar 04, 2023 11:18 AM
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Is this not a better deal for a few bucks more? trying to understand the nvme drives..

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Pl...0b6bc&th=1
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Quote from J3ff :
Is this not a better deal for a few bucks more? trying to understand the nvme drives..

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Pl...0b6bc&th=1
Damn. Given the two I'd probably opt for the Crucial since the P3+ is Gen4 vs Gen3 on Intel. Also, Intel is getting out of the SSD business while Crucial is still going strong. I don't know what difference that would make for support going forward, because it's not like Intel is going out of business per se.
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PaulL3556Mar 04, 2023 02:49 PM
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The Intel 670p has built in DRAM, the crucial one doesn't have any. Since the p3 plus is more expensive, it's main advantage over the 670p doesn't exist.
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J3ffMar 04, 2023 04:06 PM
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Quote from PaulL3556 :
The Intel 670p has built in DRAM, the crucial one doesn't have any. Since the p3 plus is more expensive, it's main advantage over the 670p doesn't exist.
What's with the dram debate? I see arguments for it and arguments that say it's not needed... which is it in your opinion?

I am just wondering what the intel chip has over the other one, because in my mind they are basically the same price..
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Damn. If this hits $40, I feel like I will have to buy it, even though I don't need it.

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What's with the dram debate? I see arguments for it and arguments that say it's not needed... which is it in your opinion?

I am just wondering what the intel chip has over the other one, because in my mind they are basically the same price..
People tend read up on stuff, see "x isn't as good", turn it into "x is bad" and run with it. It's why advertisers use buzzwords.

DRAM is used to cache lookup tables that tell the drive where in the flash chip your data resides. Without that cache, drives use part of the flash, which is much slower and increases wear. When NVME really started to take off, Silicon Motion and others started making controllers that cut out DRAM to lower costs. In response, NVME protocol got updated to add HMB, which uses a bit of system RAM instead.

This drive uses HMB. In most cases, it's negligibly slower. You should only run into slowdowns with USB enclosures or similar where the SSD is not allowed to access system RAM.

And just to throw it in there, the speed of the flash also makes a difference after you exhaust the SLC cache, which you see when writing large amount of data in a short amount of time. That'll be far more noticeable than whether a drive has DRAM.
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Quote from J3ff :
Ah, well I plan to use it in an enclosure!! This one... which I just got in some amazon deal for 82 bucks...

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product...UTF8&psc=1

I plan to connect that to a mac mini with an m2 in it with 16gb of ram... will def pick up this intel drive now, to grab that dram!!

Thanks for the insight!!
Wow that's pricey enclosure. Any cheaper, yet reliable alternatives out there than this?
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J3ffMar 04, 2023 08:57 PM
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Quote from itsme13 :
If you have mac mini with 512gb ssd, and you are using these to copy files. you may have to wait few seconds longer on really large video files. It will save you $68. If you are professional photographer and are with client and are using these for backup then stay with the faster one. For home use, you will not gain any major advantage.
I've got a mac mini m2 base (256 gb ssd) on the way, the only upgrade was to get to the 16GB ram...

Planning on running the system off of the external drive.
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Quote from wiffle :
Damn. If this hits $40, I feel like I will have to buy it, even though I don't need it.
If you dont need it, then dont.

I am thinking that late summer is when we will see the big blowout - Xmas inventories are being built up, so its time to get that stuff thats collecting dust off shelves and empty the warehouses for room, too.

Dont get me wrong - I can use more drive space, but if I can get 2TB for $80 or less (from either crucial or samsung), ill take my chances and wait. I have room for one more NVME and then some SATA slots to fill...

Anyway, thats my best guess and if im wrong, well....meh. But I am willing to wait for some Slick Deals
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89turboiiMar 04, 2023 10:17 PM
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Data used to need to be reliable. The 980pro endurance is the new standard I guess as when SSD fail in my exp it's catastrophic
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Quote from sahakiel :
People tend read up on stuff, see "x isn't as good", turn it into "x is bad" and run with it. It's why advertisers use buzzwords.

DRAM is used to cache lookup tables that tell the drive where in the flash chip your data resides. Without that cache, drives use part of the flash, which is much slower and increases wear. When NVME really started to take off, Silicon Motion and others started making controllers that cut out DRAM to lower costs. In response, NVME protocol got updated to add HMB, which uses a bit of system RAM instead.

This drive uses HMB. In most cases, it's negligibly slower. You should only run into slowdowns with USB enclosures or similar where the SSD is not allowed to access system RAM.

And just to throw it in there, the speed of the flash also makes a difference after you exhaust the SLC cache, which you see when writing large amount of data in a short amount of time. That'll be far more noticeable than whether a drive has DRAM.
Do most motherboards support this? I can't find any mention of HMB on my motherboard specs.
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dealpapaMar 04, 2023 11:32 PM
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Quote from J3ff :
Is this not a better deal for a few bucks more? trying to understand the nvme drives..

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-Pl...0b6bc&th=1 [amazon.com]
that is 9 dollars more. lol

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OxyGen87Mar 05, 2023 12:20 AM
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Quote from wiffle :
Damn. If this hits $40, I feel like I will have to buy it, even though I don't need it.
Reevaluate these kinda choices

...why buy something you don't need.? Cause it's a good deal...hmm

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