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expiredDr.W posted Oct 30, 2023 5:13 AM

ASUS TUF A16 Laptop: 16" FHD+ 165Hz, Ryzen 7 7735HS, RX 7600S, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD

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Best Buy has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $749.99. Shipping is free.
  • Note, Open Box Excellent Condition is available for $698.99 (click here)
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Specs (source):
  • AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile Processor (8-core/16-thread, 16MB L3 cache, up to 4.7 GHz max boost)
  • 16" FHD+ (1920 x 1200, WUXGA) 16:10, 165Hz 7ms, 100% sRGB, 75.35% Adobe, FreeSync Premium, MUX Switch + AMD Smart Access Graphics
  • 16GB DDR5-4800 SO-DIMM (2x 8GB), Max Capacity:24GB
  • 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon RX 7600S, up to 95W (SmartShift), 8GB GDDR6
  • Wi-Fi 6(802.11ax) (Dual band) 2*2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • 720P HD camera
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard Single Light Touchpad
  • 90WHrs, 4-cell Li-ion
  • 2.20 Kg (4.85 lbs.)
  • Ports:
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort / power delivery
    • 1x RJ45 LAN port

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Best Buy has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $749.99. Shipping is free.
  • Note, Open Box Excellent Condition is available for $698.99 (click here)
Best Buy via eBay has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $749.99 (price in cart). Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member Dr.Wajahat for finding this deal.

Specs (source):
  • AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile Processor (8-core/16-thread, 16MB L3 cache, up to 4.7 GHz max boost)
  • 16" FHD+ (1920 x 1200, WUXGA) 16:10, 165Hz 7ms, 100% sRGB, 75.35% Adobe, FreeSync Premium, MUX Switch + AMD Smart Access Graphics
  • 16GB DDR5-4800 SO-DIMM (2x 8GB), Max Capacity:24GB
  • 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon RX 7600S, up to 95W (SmartShift), 8GB GDDR6
  • Wi-Fi 6(802.11ax) (Dual band) 2*2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • 720P HD camera
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard Single Light Touchpad
  • 90WHrs, 4-cell Li-ion
  • 2.20 Kg (4.85 lbs.)
  • Ports:
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort / power delivery
    • 1x RJ45 LAN port

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Nov 1, 2023 8:15 AM
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LaughinGassNov 1, 2023 8:15 AM
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Quote from fxclm5 :
i hope you guys realize the amd game drivers are still nowhere as good as the nvidia ones, this also aided in my decision to stay with nvidia gpu graphic drivers
As an owner of a L5 Pro with a 3070, I couldn't disagree more. The experience with my prior RX580 was much better.
Nov 1, 2023 10:58 AM
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Deal-R-DashNov 1, 2023 10:58 AM
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I'm kinda snickering that they are showing Starfield on the laptop screen. I cannot imagine this would be a good gaming experience on this rig.
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Nov 1, 2023 12:45 PM
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p0tempkinNov 1, 2023 12:45 PM
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It runs a lot of modern titles very smoothly. No need to imagine.

https://youtu.be/QfvlUuAv3io?si=nwKTG3cc50IVzI89
Nov 1, 2023 2:12 PM
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JoerockvoxNov 1, 2023 2:12 PM
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Does this have thunderbolt?
Nov 1, 2023 2:30 PM
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p0tempkinNov 1, 2023 2:30 PM
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Quote from LeroyJanky74 :
Where do you see that listed?
Someone on YouTube tested it with a Datacolor Spyder. This laptop is all over YouTube; it was pretty easy to find out everything about it before I actually bought one.
Nov 1, 2023 3:46 PM
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LikwidNov 1, 2023 3:46 PM
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This would be a pretty nice laptop if it didn't have some problems (at least for me). I had 2 of them that had the same issues:
  • Potentially unstable bluetooth. I have a Logitech M720 mouse that I have used on many devices and this laptop was the only one that it would randomly disconnect from. It might be specific to this model of mouse or possibly some perfect combination of environmental issues, but I am able to use the same mouse in the same place on multiple other devices without issues. Driver versions seemed to have a slight impact on disconnect frequency, but I wasn't able to fully alleviate the issue.
  • Strange sleep behavior. It took a long time to sleep (when put to sleep manually) and was inconsistent in waking/wake speed.
  • Minor stability issues. There were a few occasions where I had graphical glitches or the system froze.
Some of these could be ironed out by BIOS or driver updates, but I didn't want to chance waiting it out past the return period. The general and gaming performance was good, so it would be a nice laptop if it weren't for the issues. It's probably worth trying, but make sure you test it thoroughly during the return period.

I'm now trying out the Predator Helios Neo 16 that's $799 at Best Buy and I haven't had any issues with it. The two laptops are pretty comparable performance-wise, with the TUF A16 having slightly better GPU performance and the Predator having slightly better CPU performance (gaming performance feels about the same to me, but the Predator seems slightly faster for productivity). The TUF is lighter/more compact and has better battery life, the Predator has a brighter screen, better cooling and better keyboard (physically feels better and has multi-zone RGB lighting).

Nov 1, 2023 4:22 PM
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UniqueLeopard7949Nov 1, 2023 4:22 PM
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Quote from Likwid :
This would be a pretty nice laptop if it didn't have some problems (at least for me). I had 2 of them that had the same issues:
  • Potentially unstable bluetooth. I have a Logitech M720 mouse that I have used on many devices and this laptop was the only one that it would randomly disconnect from. It might be specific to this model of mouse or possibly some perfect combination of environmental issues, but I am able to use the same mouse in the same place on multiple other devices without issues. Driver versions seemed to have a slight impact on disconnect frequency, but I wasn't able to fully alleviate the issue.
  • Strange sleep behavior. It took a long time to sleep (when put to sleep manually) and was inconsistent in waking/wake speed.
  • Minor stability issues. There were a few occasions where I had graphical glitches or the system froze.
Some of these could be ironed out by BIOS or driver updates, but I didn't want to chance waiting it out past the return period. The general and gaming performance was good, so it would be a nice laptop if it weren't for the issues. It's probably worth trying, but make sure you test it thoroughly during the return period.

I'm now trying out the Predator Helios Neo 16 that's $799 at Best Buy and I haven't had any issues with it. The two laptops are pretty comparable performance-wise, with the TUF A16 having slightly better GPU performance and the Predator having slightly better CPU performance (gaming performance feels about the same to me, but the Predator seems slightly faster for productivity). The TUF is lighter/more compact and has better battery life, the Predator has a brighter screen, better cooling and better keyboard (physically feels better and has multi-zone RGB lighting).
Looks like the sleep and graphic issues you pointed out are a common occurance with this model! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpST2SJolYY .

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Nov 1, 2023 4:36 PM
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LeroyJanky74Nov 1, 2023 4:36 PM
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Quote from p0tempkin :
Someone on YouTube tested it with a Datacolor Spyder. This laptop is all over YouTube; it was pretty easy to find out everything about it before I actually bought one.
It is 250 nits rated per official spec sheet, hitting a max of 300 depending on the panel, this is not great. Also many other issues with this model discussed in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpST2SJolYY
I would definitely choose the Acer Predator over this model.
Nov 1, 2023 4:40 PM
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rruffNov 1, 2023 4:40 PM
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Quote from Sysop :
I watched the other links you posted and he says it's near the 3070Ti laptops from last year at 1080: https://youtu.be/ah99ekbPMHQ?t=972
I saw that too, but it was only 3 games. When he compared 22 games it fell to 4050 level. Details on that would be interesting...

Notebookcheck makes you work for it, but if you compare the 7600S to 4050 gaming laptops, they are close on average. I'd give the nod to the 4050 actually, and you can also use frame generation in some.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVI...598.0.html
Nov 1, 2023 4:59 PM
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p0tempkinNov 1, 2023 4:59 PM
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Quote from LeroyJanky74 :
It is 250 nits rated per official spec sheet, hitting a max of 300 depending on the panel, this is not great. Also many other issues with this model discussed in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpST2SJolYY
I would definitely choose the Acer Predator over this model.
It's been measured at 300 nits by multiple sources, so it's 300 nits: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asu...466.0.html

The Asus has much, much better battery life than the Acer and is 1 lb lighter for the same screen size. Also the Acer never hit sub-$600 open box.
Nov 1, 2023 5:05 PM
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SysopNov 1, 2023 5:05 PM
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Quote from rruff :
I saw that too, but it was only 3 games. When he compared 22 games it fell to 4050 level. Details on that would be interesting...

Notebookcheck makes you work for it, but if you compare the 7600S to 4050 gaming laptops, they are close on average. I'd give the nod to the 4050 actually, and you can also use frame generation in some.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVI...598.0.html [notebookcheck.net]
Actually, it's when you go from 1080 to 4K the results change. The games may have changed, but the important part is the resolution. Since this isn't a 4K laptop, it's less important.
Nov 1, 2023 5:33 PM
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LeroyJanky74Nov 1, 2023 5:33 PM
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Quote from p0tempkin :
It's been measured at 300 nits by multiple sources, so it's 300 nits:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asu...box.Either

Either way, 400 is still better than 300. This will be a desktop replacement for me, so I don't care about weight or battery life. Acer has better thermals because of the bigger chassis.
Nov 1, 2023 6:08 PM
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p0tempkinNov 1, 2023 6:08 PM
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Quote from LeroyJanky74 :
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Asu...box.Either

Either way, 400 is still better than 300. This will be a desktop replacement for me, so I don't care about weight or battery life. Acer has better thermals because of the bigger chassis.
Either way, lighter and better battery life is still better than heavier and poorer battery life.
Nov 1, 2023 6:31 PM
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fxclm5Nov 1, 2023 6:31 PM
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Quote from LaughinGass :
As an owner of a L5 Pro with a 3070, I couldn't disagree more. The experience with my prior RX580 was much better.
lol and i had a amd advantage hp omen that I waited on 3x diff amd drivers to fix the laptop not waking up from after it went to sleep.

This is a known issue, just google it, they even had it listed out in the updated driver notes that addressed this - not waking up from sleep, it still happened.
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Nov 1, 2023 7:25 PM
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LikwidNov 1, 2023 7:25 PM
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Quote from p0tempkin :
Either way, lighter and better battery life is still better than heavier and poorer battery life.
Since you guys are going back and forth on this and I've owned both laptops, I'll chime in on the differences:

The Asus is lighter and gets better battery life, but it does run hotter (and it's actually noticeable around the keyboard area). If you literally don't care about portability or battery life because it's going to be 100% desktop replacement, then better cooling is preferable.

The Asus screen has adequate brightness for indoor use in most cases, but the Acer does get noticeably brighter. I guess you could say that the extra brightness is pointless because you're not going to be using the beast/battery hog outside, but if you're fighting glare wherever you're using it inside, it could be an advantage.

Having owned both, I prefer the Acer, but I'm using it more like a desktop replacement. I would have kept the Asus if it weren't for the issues I mentioned previously, but I'm honestly happier with the Acer anyway, since I prefer the slight bias toward CPU performance over GPU performance.

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