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expiredDr.W posted Dec 4, 2023 6:07 PM

ASUS TUF A16 Laptop: 16" FHD+ 165Hz, Ryzen 7 7735HS, RX 7600S, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD

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Best Buy via eBay has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $729.99 (price in cart). Shipping is free.

Best Buy has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $729.99. Shipping is free.Thanks to community member Dr.Wajahat for finding this deal.

Specs (source):
  • AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile Processor (8-core/16-thread, 16MB L3 cache, up to 4.7 GHz max boost)
  • 16" FHD+ (1920 x 1200, WUXGA) 16:10, 165Hz 7ms, 100% sRGB, 75.35% Adobe, FreeSync Premium, MUX Switch + AMD Smart Access Graphics
  • 16GB DDR5-4800 SO-DIMM (2x 8GB), Max Capacity: 24GB
  • 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon RX 7600S, up to 95W (SmartShift), 8GB GDDR6
  • Wi-Fi 6(802.11ax) (Dual band) 2*2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • 720P HD camera
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard Single Light Touchpad
  • 90WHrs, 4-cell Li-ion
  • 2.20 Kg (4.85 lbs.)
  • Ports:
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort / power delivery
    • 1x RJ45 LAN port

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Best Buy via eBay has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $729.99 (price in cart). Shipping is free.

Best Buy has ASUS TUF Gaming A16 Laptop (FA617NS-A16.R77600) on sale for $729.99. Shipping is free.Thanks to community member Dr.Wajahat for finding this deal.

Specs (source):
  • AMD Ryzen 7 7735HS Mobile Processor (8-core/16-thread, 16MB L3 cache, up to 4.7 GHz max boost)
  • 16" FHD+ (1920 x 1200, WUXGA) 16:10, 165Hz 7ms, 100% sRGB, 75.35% Adobe, FreeSync Premium, MUX Switch + AMD Smart Access Graphics
  • 16GB DDR5-4800 SO-DIMM (2x 8GB), Max Capacity: 24GB
  • 512GB PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 Solid State Drive
  • AMD Radeon RX 7600S, up to 95W (SmartShift), 8GB GDDR6
  • Wi-Fi 6(802.11ax) (Dual band) 2*2 + Bluetooth 5.3
  • 720P HD camera
  • Backlit Chiclet Keyboard Single Light Touchpad
  • 90WHrs, 4-cell Li-ion
  • 2.20 Kg (4.85 lbs.)
  • Ports:
    • 1x 3.5mm Combo Audio Jack
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort
    • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C support DisplayPort / power delivery
    • 1x RJ45 LAN port

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Model: ASUS - TUF Gaming A16 16" FHD 165Hz Gaming Laptop-AMD Ryzen 7-16GB DDR5 Memory-AMD Radeon RX7600S V8G-512GB PCIe SSD - OFF BLACK

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Dec 6, 2023 3:04 AM
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rruffDec 6, 2023 3:04 AM
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They aren't "truly independent" on my laptop, but the throttling is independent. They each have their own algorithms, so I can keep both of them from throttling. With a combined max load that is well below the CPU+GPU max wattage, the A16 ends up constantly throttling the CPU and GPU and deciding which to throttle most. In Gizmo's review he got a lot of stutters when running game benchmarks, and I thought this could be contributing... but maybe not.
Dec 6, 2023 3:07 AM
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rruffDec 6, 2023 3:07 AM
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Quote from goyangyi1 :
This video card is junk... slower than 3060
In everything I've seen it's about the same, and faster than a 4050. For the money this is definitely a good deal. Good screen, good battery life, etc.
Dec 6, 2023 3:21 AM
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rruffDec 6, 2023 3:21 AM
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Quote from PurpleTree9147 :
What do you guys think is the best budget gaming laptop on SD now?
At this very moment, this one... for sure.

If you are a Costco member, this wouldn't be a bad choice either: https://slickdeals.net/f/17139850-acer-nitro-16-gaming-laptop-intel-i7-13620h-geforce-rtx-4050-799-99-costco-online?v=1
Last edited by rruff December 5, 2023 at 07:24 PM.
Dec 6, 2023 4:57 AM
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PurpleTree9147Dec 6, 2023 4:57 AM
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Quote from rruff :
At this very moment, this one... for sure.

If you are a Costco member, this wouldn't be a bad choice either: https://slickdeals.net/f/17139850-acer-nitro-16-gaming-laptop-intel-i7-13620h-geforce-rtx-4050-799-99-costco-online?v=1
I looked on NanoReview and the user votes appear down the middle for the Acer Nitro 16 (AN16-51) with the specs from Cosco and vs. the Asus TUF A16 posted here.

- It seems like the i7-13th gen tested a bit better than the Ryzen 7 7735HS in performance acrossed the board by atleast +25% or more in the benchmarks.
- The Tuf A16 can run popular games at 35 to 48% higher FPS; 15.6 TFLOPS vs. The RTX 4050 on the Acer, at 9.5 TFLOPS

The Nitro 16 has liquid metal cooling.

Display comparison: TUF A16 / Nitro 16

sRGB: 97.8% / 100%
Adobe RGB: 70.9% / 82%
DCI-P3 color gamut: 69.4% / 85%
Response Time: 25ms / 7ms

Even though I don't know much about tech specs I think that maybe I understand your previous post about performance and throttling with the Tuf A16.. The CPU and GPU pairing aren't the greatest?
I watched a video with a tech guy saying that he didn't know why TUF chose that this year... annoyed, like maybe that kept it from being an S-tier budget entry to mid-level gaming laptop. He preferred the TUF A15 from last year.
I also think that it's possible that the guy was shilling the LOQ 15&16 as he had GLOWING reviews for it and heralded it as the budget gaming laptop of 2023. (Although Lenovo in general has done well.)

Per the BestBuy customer reviews the TUF A16 seemed to have some display and technical issues, some of it has been referenced here already.
I'm not quite sure if those users were allowing Windows to chose certain settings over Armory Crate or not.

I don't have a Cosco membership.
Though I was interested..and almost bought the Tuf A16 on Black Friday.
Is it still the best in this price range?
I looked at the Lenovo Legion 5, 16" Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, RTX 4060 also on BF but it didnt seem as good for the money.
Last edited by PurpleTree9147 December 5, 2023 at 09:03 PM.
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Dec 6, 2023 6:37 AM
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ShamkhalMDec 6, 2023 6:37 AM
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Quote from PurpleTree9147 :
I looked on NanoReview and the user votes appear down the middle for the Acer Nitro 16 (AN16-51) with the specs from Cosco and vs. the Asus TUF A16 posted here.

- It seems like the i7-13th gen tested a bit better than the Ryzen 7 7735HS in performance acrossed the board by atleast +25% or more in the benchmarks.
- The Tuf A16 can run popular games at 35 to 48% higher FPS; 15.6 TFLOPS vs. The RTX 4050 on the Acer, at 9.5 TFLOPS

The Nitro 16 has liquid metal cooling.

Display comparison: TUF A16 / Nitro 16

sRGB: 97.8% / 100%
Adobe RGB: 70.9% / 82%
DCI-P3 color gamut: 69.4% / 85%
Response Time: 25ms / 7ms

Even though I don't know much about tech specs I think that maybe I understand your previous post about performance and throttling with the Tuf A16.. The CPU and GPU pairing aren't the greatest?
I watched a video with a tech guy saying that he didn't know why TUF chose that this year... annoyed, like maybe that kept it from being an S-tier budget entry to mid-level gaming laptop. He preferred the TUF A15 from last year.
I also think that it's possible that the guy was shilling the LOQ 15&16 as he had GLOWING reviews for it and heralded it as the budget gaming laptop of 2023. (Although Lenovo in general has done well.)

Per the BestBuy customer reviews the TUF A16 seemed to have some display and technical issues, some of it has been referenced here already.
I'm not quite sure if those users were allowing Windows to chose certain settings over Armory Crate or not.

I don't have a Cosco membership.
Though I was interested..and almost bought the Tuf A16 on Black Friday.
Is it still the best in this price range?
I looked at the Lenovo Legion 5, 16" Slim, Ryzen 5 7640HS, RTX 4060 also on BF but it didnt seem as good for the money.
Yep, I wish legion 5 or 7 with 4060 were for this price. I am still waiting. For some reason it seems that people like rtx cards more so I hope to get one with 4060 for this price or max 800$
Dec 6, 2023 2:17 PM
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zhamilton05Dec 6, 2023 2:17 PM
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Quote from ShamkhalM :
Yep, I wish legion 5 or 7 with 4060 were for this price. I am still waiting. For some reason it seems that people like rtx cards more so I hope to get one with 4060 for this price or max 800$
I tested a Legion 5 with RTX 4060 and the Ryzen 7 7735HS, and CPU was definitely the limiting factor. It's based on the 6000-series architecture, so it's noticeably slower then Ryzen laptop CPUs that have a "4" as their third digit. Those are true 7000-series.
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Dec 6, 2023 3:34 PM
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rruffDec 6, 2023 3:34 PM
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Quote from PurpleTree9147 :
Even though I don't know much about tech specs I think that maybe I understand your previous post about performance and throttling with the Tuf A16.. The CPU and GPU pairing aren't the greatest?
I watched a video with a tech guy saying that he didn't know why TUF chose that this year... annoyed, like maybe that kept it from being an S-tier budget entry to mid-level gaming laptop. He preferred the TUF A15 from last year.
I also think that it's possible that the guy was shilling the LOQ 15&16 as he had GLOWING reviews for it and heralded it as the budget gaming laptop of 2023. (Although Lenovo in general has done well.)
I'm just speculating, as throttling can be a cause of stutters if it isn't done very well, and the A16 is designed to be throttling a lot at max performance. Since the GPU and CPU have a combined max, I'm not sure how you'd keep it from throttling. It looked like Gizmo saw a 90W GPU limit, but Jarrod saw low 90s average in some stress tests, so it doesn't seem likely the GPU has a hard limit... although when gaming it tends to run very close to 90W (leaving 30W for the CPU), and the CPU will go up to 65W when the GPU isn't active.

I like to fiddle with performance. I got >10% GPU boost and I think >25% CPU boost out of my GE75 Raider by undervolting and overclocking, using Throttlestop and Afterburner. I was able to do this and stay away from thermal and power throttling limits too, unlike the stock configuration. The 7735HS can't be UV and OC, but you might be able to adjust its behavior in other ways. The 7600S can be UV and OC. Surely someone who has the laptop has tried to tweak it to maximize performance, but I haven't seen anything posted online.

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Dec 6, 2023 5:54 PM
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FragsterDec 6, 2023 5:54 PM
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Just saw a post on reddit on this and apparently, some major issues with BSOD and instability. Guy ended up selling his..Also said the onboard Wifi is terrible ...hmm....maybe thats why these are now discounted??
Dec 6, 2023 5:59 PM
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slickdealgbDec 6, 2023 5:59 PM
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Avoid any deal where nits is not mentioned. A laptop is only as good as its screen.
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Dec 6, 2023 7:06 PM
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TH0RDec 6, 2023 7:06 PM
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Quote from slickdealgb :
Avoid any deal where nits is not mentioned. A laptop is only as good as its screen.
The screen doesn't matter at all if connecting to a monitor.
A laptop on the go depends on individual preference.

As others have mentioned, this is the best deal on a gaming laptop in months!
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Dec 6, 2023 7:09 PM
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TH0RDec 6, 2023 7:09 PM
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Quote from rruff :
faster than a 4050. For the money this is definitely a good deal.
Good screen, good battery life, etc.
Quote from The_Doug :
this is about the best deal I've seen for a capable mobile GPU.
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Dec 6, 2023 11:19 PM
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rruffDec 6, 2023 11:19 PM
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Quote from Fragster :
Just saw a post on reddit on this and apparently, some major issues with BSOD and instability. Guy ended up selling his..Also said the onboard Wifi is terrible ...hmm....maybe thats why these are now discounted??
Welcome to the world of Windows computers! Random shit happens, but I doubt these are common issues. Can't be too bad if it gets 4.5/5 average on Best Buy.

Quote from slickdealgb :
Avoid any deal where nits is not mentioned. A laptop is only as good as its screen.
Jarrod tested it. It's 300 nits with a good color gamut and response. Really ideal for this price, since budget laptops often cheap out on that.

https://youtu.be/ah99ekbPMHQ?si=PDWnnLok1oArm8mn
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Dec 7, 2023 12:09 AM
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SharpShape135Dec 7, 2023 12:09 AM
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Quote from rruff :
When Gizmo tested this laptop, the GPU seemed to be capped in the low 90W range, but that might just be a consequence of the total (CPU and GPU) cap of 120W. In other words the GPU probably can go to 120W in theory, if the CPU has zero load. Max temps were in the high 70s for the GPU, and 95 on the CPU when gaming.

Having a combined power limit is weird isn't it? I know my MSI isn't like that. The GPU and CPU have independent limits.

Generally I don't like being power or temperature limited because it tends to cause glitches. The CPU can't be undervolted unfortunately, but Afterburner should work fine on the GPU. I haven't seen anyone try UC and OC though.
I have the 7700s laptop and never hit 90 during any game, I have it set to turbo in armoury crate for max performance
Dec 7, 2023 12:10 AM
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SharpShape135Dec 7, 2023 12:10 AM
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Quote from goyangyi1 :
This video card is junk... slower than 3060
Lol actually a little faster than 4060
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Dec 7, 2023 2:02 AM
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FragsterDec 7, 2023 2:02 AM
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Went to my local BB and they had this on demo. Played with it for 20 mins or so. H/w specs look good but keyobard had flex. Also, its all matte finish and has that "entry level laptop" look.

There was another 16" lenovo on the other display and that appeared to have a better build (and screen).

I'm getting this for my soon-to-start-college son whos converted from console to PC recently so I wanted something he can use for both gaming and for classes.

But at this point, I'm gonna hold out ...BB had tons of 16" laptops which appeared to have better builds than this btw.

I mean if ya are desparete for a decent gaming laptop without breaking the bank, go for this. If not, just wait it out early next year as i reckon there'll be even newer tech and cheaper prices.
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