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Pioneer Elite VSX-LX505 9.2-Channel 8K A/V Receiver on sale for
$649.
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Key Features:- Dirac Live Room Correction
- HDMI 2.1
- Ultimate 4K Gaming Experience
- 9 Channels of onboard amplification with 11.2-Channel Processing
- 120-watts/per channel
- Imax Enhanced
- Powered Zone 2/Zone 3 Audio
- Bi-directional Bluetooth with aptX HD
Includes:- Pioneer Home Audio Elite VSX-LX505 120W 9.2-Channel Network A/V Receiver
- RC-974R Remote Controller with 2x AAA Batteries
- Speaker Setup Microphone
- DAB/FM Antenna
- Indoor FM Antenna
- AM Loop Antenna
- Power Cord
- User Manual
- Pioneer Home Audio 3 Year limited Warranty
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I even bought the higher end tuning mic for Dirac and the special mic stand. I got deep into all of the tuning curves, laptop software, and all that jazz well before actually getting the receiver. For months I combed AV forums to get tips and expert advice.
In the end, in spite of days of tuning and tweaks, I returned the Pioneer. The Pioneer's sound was just flat compared to my older Denon. The 3 dimensions of sound were just 2D and too crisp. I thought for sure I got a defective Pioneer and after returning it, continued searching obsessively for any one of these three extremely similar models.
I was on the Crutchfield waitlist for a few months and finally got the Onkyo. I hooked it up. Did all the initial, standard calibration but got the exact same result. I did the curves and tweaked and tweaked. Things changed but never got close to my older Denon. Just flat sound that made me sad. I ended up returning the Onkyo too. It killed my soul.
So now I have the Denon x4700. It sounds amazing like my x4100 but a little better. The new Denon has some features my old Denon did not and that were critical at my house - having volume control on-screen and being able to turn everything on and off with a simple remote.
I'm not arguing with all the people who love these receivers. On paper they look awesome. My experience was less than awesome, but what pleases people's ears is ultimately a very personal experience and wanted to share mine.
That being said. This Pioneer is still a quality receiver and at this price definitely a slick deal. But I'll warn you not to invest as much time as I did trying to tweak it if you aren't impressed after your first calibration. Tweaking helped but in my case did not work out.
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Room correction is helpful but contrary to popular belief, it's not a magic pill especially if you just run it and leave it.
It doesn't improve the quality of your speakers or correct room environment issues.
Dirac Live also doesn't include their sub/bass integration RC.
As you can see just in this thread, how well it works can be hit and miss.
If you're happy with what you have, not sure it's worth a $650 gamble for Dirac Live is my opinion.
nm, not sure if that was the reason but changed my payment card from Amex to MC, and was able to place the order.
One thing I noticed is that only with the slick deal link you get this price. If you just search for the item/sku, then you get a price of $1199.9 and it doesn't discount it even if you are on the final checkout page.
I even bought the higher end tuning mic for Dirac and the special mic stand. I got deep into all of the tuning curves, laptop software, and all that jazz well before actually getting the receiver. For months I combed AV forums to get tips and expert advice.
In the end, in spite of days of tuning and tweaks, I returned the Pioneer. The Pioneer's sound was just flat compared to my older Denon. The 3 dimensions of sound were just 2D and too crisp. I thought for sure I got a defective Pioneer and after returning it, continued searching obsessively for any one of these three extremely similar models.
I was on the Crutchfield waitlist for a few months and finally got the Onkyo. I hooked it up. Did all the initial, standard calibration but got the exact same result. I did the curves and tweaked and tweaked. Things changed but never got close to my older Denon. Just flat sound that made me sad. I ended up returning the Onkyo too. It killed my soul.
So now I have the Denon x4700. It sounds amazing like my x4100 but a little better. The new Denon has some features my old Denon did not and that were critical at my house - having volume control on-screen and being able to turn everything on and off with a simple remote.
I'm not arguing with all the people who love these receivers. On paper they look awesome. My experience was less than awesome, but what pleases people's ears is ultimately a very personal experience and wanted to share mine.
That being said. This Pioneer is still a quality receiver and at this price definitely a slick deal. But I'll warn you not to invest as much time as I did trying to tweak it if you aren't impressed after your first calibration. Tweaking helped but in my case did not work out.
EDIT: now if there was a way to assign and automatically recall different Audyssey profiles (including room correction settings, crossovers, DEQ in/off,etc) "per HDMI" input then that would be gravy. The input used from a Blu-ray player could use DEQ and default Audyssey settings while input used by Apple TV for music only could use a different setting for music.
Never used Dirac .. wonder if it has such a feature.
As far as no logical benefit, it depends on your overall setup imo.
Having recently replaced a 15 with a Cinema in a pretty good setup, was pretty impressive.
We like Audyssey especially now with directional sub integration but we just can't manually replicate what DLBC can do!
I will point out his dedicated room is well treated and runs all full range/reference speakers & now with 4 subs!
People complain about the price of Dirac, $560 was worth its weight in gold, completely agree!
One of these days I'll get to get into my system more, damn Dirac sale!
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EDIT: now if there was a way to assign and automatically recall different Audyssey profiles (including room correction settings, crossovers, DEQ in/off,etc) "per HDMI" input then that would be gravy. The input used from a Blu-ray player could use DEQ and default Audyssey settings while input used by Apple TV for music only could use a different setting for music.
Never used Dirac .. wonder if it has such a feature.
As far as no logical benefit, it depends on your overall setup imo.
Having recently replaced a 15 with a Cinema in a pretty good setup, was pretty impressive.
We like Audyssey especially now with directional sub integration but we just can't manually replicate what DLBC can do!
I will point out his dedicated room is well treated and runs all full range/reference speakers & now with 4 subs!
People complain about the price of Dirac, $560 was worth its weight in gold, completely agree!
One of these days I'll get to get into my system more, damn Dirac sale!
I/we would say there is no $560 15" sub let alone 18" that would come close to making the same difference.
We both like Audyssey and were in no rush to get Dirac especially without DLBC.
Now, if you had dynamic EQ "on", and had its "reference level offset" set to -10, it's effect would essentially be "off" if listening at -10 or louder because you've altered what the avr now recognizes as reference level?
Read this: https://www.avsforum.co
And this: https://www.audioscienc
So I looked at my Dirac 'curtains' and my Atmos speakers are controlled by Dolby standard settings it says 'Filter cannot be applied to Dolby Enabled Speaker'.. I noticed my larger LR are lower crossover (28Hz), my Center is a little higher (31Hz) and my surrounds are a little higher (45Hz).
And it'll ignore the preset crossover points?
And it'll set each speaker independently?
If so, I'll stop waiting for the Onkyo TX-RZ50 to come down!
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I/we would say there is no $560 15" sub let alone 18" that would come close to making the same difference.
We both like Audyssey and were in no rush to get Dirac especially without DLBC.
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